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  • The reason Weeden won the QB competition in preseason last year is two fold: A. He had the edge because he was the Browns first round draft pick. And his competition were a couple of vagabond veterans who had been all over the league and cut from several teams...and

    B. He killed it in preseason. He looked and played outstanding. He was sharp, accurate, instinctual, showed his arm strength and confident.

    But of that blew up however when the real bright lights were turned on for the regular season. He won the competition in training camp over the other two. He lost it immediately however with his bad play.

  • Also Hoyer had two mediocre games that we won. And one bad one that Brandon Weeden came in and bailed him out. Yes I like the brian hoyer story. I just think its a bad idea to get too excited.

    WSS

  • Being a veteran player who can play gives Hoyer the short term big advantage.

    I'm happy with him starting. If there's anything he isn't getting done, and it's on him,

    Manziel may step in and take over at that point.

    I didn't see Hoyer not being the guy, it was other stuff.

  • I disagree with some of the comments on Hoyer and I, for one, am really excited to see him play next year. He first impressed me in one of the preseason games when he played the second half and led the team to a come from behind victory. In the 2 full games last season, he demonstrated accuracy, a quick release, good velocity on throws, good decision making skills, and an ability to be creative when necessary. I see him taking it up another notch next year with a balanced run/pass offence and better OL protection scheme.

  • maybe the QB coach will have a full day at TC dedicated to teaching these marys how to slide.

  • Also Hoyer had two mediocre games that we won. And one bad one that Brandon Weeden came in and bailed him out. Yes I like the brian hoyer story. I just think its a bad idea to get too excited.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Also Hoyer had two mediocre games that we won. And one bad one that Brandon Weeden came in and bailed him out. Yes I like the brian hoyer story. I just think its a bad idea to get too excited.

    While I agree that "excited" would be a bit much...

    - 25 of 38 (65.8%) for 269 yds 2 TD and 0 INTs, and a 104 rating is hardly "mediocre"; and

    - leaving a game where you were 2/4 for 25 yds was hardly bad enough to require a bail-out.

    And as for the "bail-out" itself...

    - Benji Weedon returned a punt for a TD and T.J. Weedon had a pick 6...

    - but Wheezy (13/24 for 197 1 TD and 0 INT) did throw a long TD to Gordon and had a key throw-away late... on 4th and 6... 😉

  • maybe the QB coach will have a full day at TC dedicated to teaching these marys how to slide.

    @miktoxic said:

    maybe the QB coach will have a full day at TC dedicated to teaching these marys how to slide.

    I'd bring in a local baseball coach to help with that. It doesn't have to be a guy with the Indians. Baldwin Wallace has a baseball team if I am not mistaken. He could probably walk from his field to the Browns complex.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Also Hoyer had two mediocre games that we won. And one bad one that Brandon Weeden came in and bailed him out. Yes I like the brian hoyer story. I just think its a bad idea to get too excited.

    While I agree that "excited" would be a bit much...

    - 25 of 38 (65.8%) for 269 yds 2 TD and 0 INTs, and a 104 rating is hardly "mediocre"; and

    - leaving a game where you were 2/4 for 25 yds was hardly bad enough to require a bail-out.

    And as for the "bail-out" itself...

    - Benji Weedon returned a punt for a TD and T.J. Weedon had a pick 6...

    - but Wheezy (13/24 for 197 1 TD and 0 INT) did throw a long TD to Gordon and had a key throw-away late... on 4th and 6... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    While I agree that "excited" would be a bit much...

    - 25 of 38 (65.8%) for 269 yds 2 TD and 0 INTs, and a 104 rating is hardly "mediocre"; and

    - leaving a game where you were 2/4 for 25 yds was hardly bad enough to require a bail-out.

    And as for the "bail-out" itself...

    - Benji Weedon returned a punt for a TD and T.J. Weedon had a pick 6...

    - but Wheezy (13/24 for 197 1 TD and 0 INT) did throw a long TD to Gordon and had a key throw-away late... on 4th and 6... 😉

    9-9 touchdown interception versus 7-6.

    I like the guy too but I think you guys are getting blinded by love and hate at the same time.

    WSS

  • @tour2ma said:

    While I agree that "excited" would be a bit much...

    - 25 of 38 (65.8%) for 269 yds 2 TD and 0 INTs, and a 104 rating is hardly "mediocre"; and

    - leaving a game where you were 2/4 for 25 yds was hardly bad enough to require a bail-out.

    And as for the "bail-out" itself...

    - Benji Weedon returned a punt for a TD and T.J. Weedon had a pick 6...

    - but Wheezy (13/24 for 197 1 TD and 0 INT) did throw a long TD to Gordon and had a key throw-away late... on 4th and 6... 😉

    9-9 touchdown interception versus 7-6.

    I like the guy too but I think you guys are getting blinded by love and hate at the same time.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    9-9 touchdown interception versus 7-6.

    ... and I think comparing one player's season stats to another's career stats is nonsensical cherry-picking.

    I know... for the season Hoyer was 5-3. But all three INTs were in his first game where he had to throw 54 passes to compete.

    Steve, I'm not over-the-moon enamored with Hoyer, but I am optimistic.

  • @westside-steve said:

    9-9 touchdown interception versus 7-6.

    ... and I think comparing one player's season stats to another's career stats is nonsensical cherry-picking.

    I know... for the season Hoyer was 5-3. But all three INTs were in his first game where he had to throw 54 passes to compete.

    Steve, I'm not over-the-moon enamored with Hoyer, but I am optimistic.

    @tour2ma said:

    ... and I think comparing one player's season stats to another's career stats is nonsensical cherry-picking.

    I know... for the season Hoyer was 5-3. But all three INTs were in his first game where he had to throw 54 passes to compete.

    Steve, I'm not over-the-moon enamored with Hoyer, but I am optimistic.

    Me too but like the TV show says Curb Your Enthusiasm guys.

    As soon as he throws three pics in game 1 or two or the team goes 0 & 2 you guys will be screaming give us Barabas!

    WSS