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  • cambridgeho cambridgehoC Very Popular Reacting Well Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by cambridgeho
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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/02/jordan-cameron-is-no-longer-a-pro-bowl-tight-end-sort-of/

    i know this isnt really anything, but what are the thoughts on Cameron for the future? Will he demand to be the highest paid TE or will he fall behind the likes of the Grahams, Davis, Gronk Thomas types?

    List of 2015 Draft prospects and FA's\

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2015TE.php

    http://overthecap.com/freeagents.php?Position=TE&Year=2015

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      Talented guy, great athlete. Smart draft pick ... We have done everything right with Cameron ... Except re-sign him.

      If we don't get something done in the next month, we are goig to have franchise him next year and watch him hit the market the next. We have nothing else at the position... I'd sign him now ... He's going to catch 90 balls this year.

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        IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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        Based on the free agent link you posted he was the only Brown coming up as a free agent next year. So if the Browns don't go batshit crazy in free agency or something, locking him up shouldn't be a problem, right?

        Do you think we could pull off a move like they did with Mack and basically let another team do the negotiating for us?

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          HowieDawgH HowieDawg wrote on last edited by
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          Cameron has to get done, whilst we are all semi-delusional about how well the receiver corps who we don't know will perform, Cameron is, like Zombo said, a known quantity that will deliver. Without him we are at best 2 dimensional on offense, whether we tag and bag next year or cough up this, surely the FO will get this done.

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            Based on the free agent link you posted he was the only Brown coming up as a free agent next year. So if the Browns don't go batshit crazy in free agency or something, locking him up shouldn't be a problem, right?

            Do you think we could pull off a move like they did with Mack and basically let another team do the negotiating for us?

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            cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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            @ibleedbrown said:

            Based on the free agent link you posted he was the only Brown coming up as a free agent next year. So if the Browns don't go batshit crazy in free agency or something, locking him up shouldn't be a problem, right?

            Do you think we could pull off a move like they did with Mack and basically let another team do the negotiating for us?

            No, we will do what the Saints did.

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              @ibleedbrown said:

              Based on the free agent link you posted he was the only Brown coming up as a free agent next year. So if the Browns don't go batshit crazy in free agency or something, locking him up shouldn't be a problem, right?

              Do you think we could pull off a move like they did with Mack and basically let another team do the negotiating for us?

              No, we will do what the Saints did.

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              @cambridgeho said:

              No, we will do what the Saints did.

              Cameron has changed his Twitter bio from "Tight end" to "Pass Catcher" ... so buckle down, could be a long battle.

              Zombo

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                @cambridgeho said:

                No, we will do what the Saints did.

                Cameron has changed his Twitter bio from "Tight end" to "Pass Catcher" ... so buckle down, could be a long battle.

                Zombo

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                TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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                Zombo said:

                Cameron has changed his Twitter bio from "Tight end" to "Pass Catcher" ... so buckle down, could be a long battle.

                Zombo

                He's still a TE regardless. That just removes a written admission. Teams will now require a signed position designation for future contracts.

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                  @cambridgeho said:

                  No, we will do what the Saints did.

                  Cameron has changed his Twitter bio from "Tight end" to "Pass Catcher" ... so buckle down, could be a long battle.

                  Zombo

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                  Zombo said:

                  Cameron has changed his Twitter bio from "Tight end" to "Pass Catcher" ... so buckle down, could be a long battle.

                  Zombo

                  Pretty sure he did it more as a joke than anything. There's no disputing that he is a tight end.

                  I wouldn't be surprised if his agent tried to fight for top 5 TE money, but I don't know how much he has to stand on after one breakout season. If he can perform at the same level this year, I think he would absolutely deserve it.

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                    MasterDogM MasterDog wrote on last edited by MasterDog
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                    It'll be great if we can lock him up but let's face it, if he exceeds last year's number it's going to cost a bundle to keep him and unless we are contenders i don't see us ponying up the money for him.

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                      jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by
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                      Grahams is going to come in around $10MM a year. If Cameron has a monster year he will demand north of that.

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                        Grahams is going to come in around $10MM a year. If Cameron has a monster year he will demand north of that.

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                        cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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                        @jcam222 said:

                        Grahams is going to come in around $10MM a year. If Cameron has a monster year he will demand north of that.

                        Im sure he will have a monster year, which is great for us. He is to good a talent to let go.

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                          LBC mikeL LBC mike wrote on last edited by
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                          We will try to sign him in mid season depending on what he does. He still has to play this year so I am not too worried about it.

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            Guess I am the only one that would like to see him show what he showed in 2013 again... confirm his "breakout year"... especially before I started considering Graham or Davis type, top-5 money.

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                              Guess I am the only one that would like to see him show what he showed in 2013 again... confirm his "breakout year"... especially before I started considering Graham or Davis type, top-5 money.

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                              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                              @tour2ma said:

                              Guess I am the only one that would like to see him show what he showed in 2013 again... confirm his "breakout year"... especially before I started considering Graham or Davis type, top-5 money.

                              No, you are not.

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                                @tour2ma said:

                                Guess I am the only one that would like to see him show what he showed in 2013 again... confirm his "breakout year"... especially before I started considering Graham or Davis type, top-5 money.

                                No, you are not.

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                @gftchris said:

                                No, you are not.

                                Hands across the ocean... and all that...

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                                  @gftchris said:

                                  No, you are not.

                                  Hands across the ocean... and all that...

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                                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  Hands across the ocean... and all that...

                                  Something like that, yeah...

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                                    Guess I am the only one that would like to see him show what he showed in 2013 again... confirm his "breakout year"... especially before I started considering Graham or Davis type, top-5 money.

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                                    ComeonmanC Comeonman wrote on last edited by
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                                    @tour2ma said:

                                    Guess I am the only one that would like to see him show what he showed in 2013 again... confirm his "breakout year"... especially before I started considering Graham or Davis type, top-5 money.

                                    Amen to that. Pay 10-12 mil a year for another PH? No thanks. I'm not saying he is a fluke, I think he has huge talent. We just need to see a little more than one year to pay someone top 5 or even top 10 money
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                                      jcam222J jcam222 wrote on last edited by jcam222
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                                      I disagree with the league ruling. I think it is very obvious the tight end position has evolved into two distinctly different roles. Those roles in my mind are very different and should command different values. These guys that are catching as many passes as Graham and getting paid like a blocking TE are getting screwed.

                                      If Cameron is as good or better than last year especially in light of the Gordon situation he will be worth every penny of the tag and honestly every penny of the $10MM a year it will cost on a deal.

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                                        T Taco918 wrote on last edited by
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                                        Lock him up cheap now before he has a potential break out season being our number one target and all. He can't command 10 mil a season currently.

                                        After the season, hopefully (meaning he did work and we're in the playoff running,) he can.

                                        With that said, I doubt he would even consider signing up long term yet. Just doesn't make sense. All this JG nonsense has made him that much more valuable. If he has even a decent season, he can double his value. Considering how Reed, a rook, did last year in this system, Cameron's got to be psyched.

                                        Plus a TE is a young QB's best friend.

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                                          Lock him up cheap now before he has a potential break out season being our number one target and all. He can't command 10 mil a season currently.

                                          After the season, hopefully (meaning he did work and we're in the playoff running,) he can.

                                          With that said, I doubt he would even consider signing up long term yet. Just doesn't make sense. All this JG nonsense has made him that much more valuable. If he has even a decent season, he can double his value. Considering how Reed, a rook, did last year in this system, Cameron's got to be psyched.

                                          Plus a TE is a young QB's best friend.

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                                          T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @taco918 said:

                                          Plus a TE is a young QB's best friend.

                                          I expect that during training camp he will work out secondary routes with JM similar to the relationship Manziel had with Mike Evans. JM would find a way to extend the play with his legs and Evans (and others) would take off on new secondary routes, often with subtle signals in advance of the play from the LOS depending upon the D they were seeing. Those who say JM was not good at progressions have no idea what he was really doing as often he would take off watching on the run for the secondary routes because he knew the primaries were covered.

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