Jonathan Paul Manziel
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football by day for johnny and then........
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the first question some asshole asked manziel after manziel had kinda said he wasn't going to talk about the off the field stuff was "hey johnny, why were you rolling up the $20 bill?"
doh!
they just dogged him out about what he had to say about how he liked to go out in the off-season and hang with his friends and yet now they are repeating his part of the press conference for the second time since it ended.
LOL... well.. why was he?
In this case something involving the words "reap" and "sow" comes to mind...
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the reporters are going to be a pain in the ass this camp. what a bunch of fucking idiots.
Yup... Had to turn off NFL Live when they started making a big deal of JM not coming out in "team issued apparel".
That was atop Holzman openly questioning how open of a QB competition there was going to be just because an unnamed player said the Browns' locker room expected BH to start the season.
Stir the pot and get paid...
Yup... Had to turn off NFL Live when they started making a big deal of JM not coming out in "team issued apparel".
That was atop Holzman openly questioning how open of a QB competition there was going to be just because an unnamed player said the Browns' locker room expected BH to start the season.
Stir the pot and get paid...
Well Tour- let me put it to you this way- did everyone else come out in "Team issued apparel?" Who the hell does he think he is? JFF? If you want to wear World Cup gear, get the fuck outta here and play for Aston Villa. The 6:30 crawl on BSPN said Haslam told the coaching staff in June to tell Manzel to tone it down. I don't know about you, but I'd say 99.9% of the workforce would get fired in short order if they flipped off the guy who writes their paycheck.
the first question some asshole asked manziel after manziel had kinda said he wasn't going to talk about the off the field stuff was "hey johnny, why were you rolling up the $20 bill?"
doh!
they just dogged him out about what he had to say about how he liked to go out in the off-season and hang with his friends and yet now they are repeating his part of the press conference for the second time since it ended.
You made your bed, sleep in it Party Animal.
Funny how AJ McCarron can date Miss Alabama and not get his exploits plastered all over Instagram.
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I think JFF is being extra careful on how he acts in front of phones/cameras nowadays.
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the reporters are going to be a pain in the ass this camp. what a bunch of fucking idiots.
Yup... Had to turn off NFL Live when they started making a big deal of JM not coming out in "team issued apparel".
That was atop Holzman openly questioning how open of a QB competition there was going to be just because an unnamed player said the Browns' locker room expected BH to start the season.
Stir the pot and get paid...
Yup... Had to turn off NFL Live when they started making a big deal of JM not coming out in "team issued apparel".
That was atop Holzman openly questioning how open of a QB competition there was going to be just because an unnamed player said the Browns' locker room expected BH to start the season.
Stir the pot and get paid...
well if he wants to be a team player and professes it's all about the browns and what's best for the team, wear your team gear.
i think he's setting it up for when he puts out his own line/brand that we'll get used to seeing him wear his own shit sorta like tiger woods w/the TW logo and the nike swoosh.
difference is how's it gonna sell or how is nike gonna keep you if you don't perform and quit being a clown off the field. you wouldn't know it but they have standards too.
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Yup... Had to turn off NFL Live when they started making a big deal of JM not coming out in "team issued apparel".
That was atop Holzman openly questioning how open of a QB competition there was going to be just because an unnamed player said the Browns' locker room expected BH to start the season.
Stir the pot and get paid...
Well Tour- let me put it to you this way- did everyone else come out in "Team issued apparel?" Who the hell does he think he is? JFF? If you want to wear World Cup gear, get the fuck outta here and play for Aston Villa. The 6:30 crawl on BSPN said Haslam told the coaching staff in June to tell Manzel to tone it down. I don't know about you, but I'd say 99.9% of the workforce would get fired in short order if they flipped off the guy who writes their paycheck.
the first question some asshole asked manziel after manziel had kinda said he wasn't going to talk about the off the field stuff was "hey johnny, why were you rolling up the $20 bill?"
doh!
they just dogged him out about what he had to say about how he liked to go out in the off-season and hang with his friends and yet now they are repeating his part of the press conference for the second time since it ended.
You made your bed, sleep in it Party Animal.
Funny how AJ McCarron can date Miss Alabama and not get his exploits plastered all over Instagram.
You made your bed, sleep in it Party Animal.
Funny how AJ McCarron can date Miss Alabama and not get his exploits plastered all over Instagram.
true.
half the stuff we see on social was planned by JF. the other half i'm sure he wish wasn't taken (pics) but if you put yourself out there like that...what do you expect? he said he did it in the 'off-season'. let's see if he can keep it in his pants during the 'football' season.
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@douche-nozzle said:
Good point! And here is another one which most of you will throw up in your mouth over. Now, I know that you all are absolutely certain that Big Ben is a rapist but that is simply because he is a Steeler. Johnny's behavior is just like the behavior that got Ben in trouble......except it's way more blatant.....think about it!
It took big ben to crash face first in a windshield off his bike, rape in a bathroom to make him realize what he is fucking up (career)to go on the straight and narrow. I think manziel is going to need a shot of real fucking reality to make him simmer down.
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Yup... Had to turn off NFL Live when they started making a big deal of JM not coming out in "team issued apparel".
That was atop Holzman openly questioning how open of a QB competition there was going to be just because an unnamed player said the Browns' locker room expected BH to start the season.
Stir the pot and get paid...
Well Tour- let me put it to you this way- did everyone else come out in "Team issued apparel?" Who the hell does he think he is? JFF? If you want to wear World Cup gear, get the fuck outta here and play for Aston Villa. The 6:30 crawl on BSPN said Haslam told the coaching staff in June to tell Manzel to tone it down. I don't know about you, but I'd say 99.9% of the workforce would get fired in short order if they flipped off the guy who writes their paycheck.
the first question some asshole asked manziel after manziel had kinda said he wasn't going to talk about the off the field stuff was "hey johnny, why were you rolling up the $20 bill?"
doh!
they just dogged him out about what he had to say about how he liked to go out in the off-season and hang with his friends and yet now they are repeating his part of the press conference for the second time since it ended.
You made your bed, sleep in it Party Animal.
Funny how AJ McCarron can date Miss Alabama and not get his exploits plastered all over Instagram.
You damn Retard, there we a sh*t load of players not wearing team gear.
Well Tour- let me put it to you this way- did everyone else come out in "Team issued apparel?" Who the hell does he think he is? JFF? If you want to wear World Cup gear, get the fuck outta here and play for Aston Villa. The 6:30 crawl on BSPN said Haslam told the coaching staff in June to tell Manzel to tone it down. I don't know about you, but I'd say 99.9% of the workforce would get fired in short order if the flipped off the guy who writes their paycheck.
You made your bed, sleep in it Party Animal.
Funny how AJ McCarron can date Miss Alabama and not get his exploits plastered all over Instagram.
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Is this JFF?
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@douche-nozzle said:
When do you think he will get his cocaine addiction under control?
I see an OD dead stripper involved
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@douche-nozzle said:
Is it the girl (Samantha) he texted pictures of his erect 4 1/2" penis?
I see a lot of balls knocked out of little Johnny's hand.....look at this grip!
http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2014/02/21/johnny-manziel-height-2014-nfl-combine
Is that the distance from your lips to the back of your throat?
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VesnaKociper said:
Zomblow,
from a strictly commercial point of view one could pretty much expect Hoyer to start. This is not really in depth football analysis. The thought process is both logical and hedge insurance.
1) Hoyer looked like the real deal - Start him and if that is so, there is no downside.
2) Start Hoyer and at least 1/2 the fans will be happy in seeing him get a fair chance
3) The other half, who want Manziel to start will accept it, telling themselves that the rookie needs some time to learn the system. ( Only idiots think a player cannot perform well unless he learns "the system", but that's that fans believe)
4) If Hoyer blows, Manziel fans will eventually be happy when he starts.
in this manner, Ownership has a mostly happy fan base regardless of who performs or who blows.
Exactly right Tom. Been watching the goings on today courtesy of ESPN, live from training camp. Interviews with Hoyer, Manziel, & Pettine. Herm Edwards chimed in with exactly what I've been saying for the past month. The Browns start the season @ Squealers, Saints @ home, Ravens @ home. (BTW, if you can make it up for the Ratbird game the whole crew is gonna be there). Hoyer plays at least tolerable in those games- JF sits. Hoyer play like the naysayers think- and sucks- Manziel get the call from the Bullpen after the bye. No fan outside of Cleveland is going to give the Browns much chance in winning those first three anyway.
BTW, the interview with Pettine, and other stuff today- Mike was concerned about the rolled up bill in the bathroom. Him, Farmer and Haslam all talked to Manziel before Camp opened- and the message was clear- start acting more like LeBron and Tom Brady off the field, not some guy on a college frat binge.
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Yup... Had to turn off NFL Live when they started making a big deal of JM not coming out in "team issued apparel".
That was atop Holzman openly questioning how open of a QB competition there was going to be just because an unnamed player said the Browns' locker room expected BH to start the season.
Stir the pot and get paid...
Well Tour- let me put it to you this way- did everyone else come out in "Team issued apparel?" Who the hell does he think he is? JFF? If you want to wear World Cup gear, get the fuck outta here and play for Aston Villa. The 6:30 crawl on BSPN said Haslam told the coaching staff in June to tell Manzel to tone it down. I don't know about you, but I'd say 99.9% of the workforce would get fired in short order if they flipped off the guy who writes their paycheck.
the first question some asshole asked manziel after manziel had kinda said he wasn't going to talk about the off the field stuff was "hey johnny, why were you rolling up the $20 bill?"
doh!
they just dogged him out about what he had to say about how he liked to go out in the off-season and hang with his friends and yet now they are repeating his part of the press conference for the second time since it ended.
You made your bed, sleep in it Party Animal.
Funny how AJ McCarron can date Miss Alabama and not get his exploits plastered all over Instagram.
Well Tour- let me put it to you this way...
well if he wants to be a team player and professes it's all about the browns and what's best for the team, wear your team gear.
Sorry boys, but I don't need a thing "put to me". I never endorsed JM's wardrobe choice, just said that Schlereth and the lesser Hasselbeck (not counting Elizebeth) were making too big of a deal out of it.
There were a few others (not many) who also wore "civies", but none was even mentioned by name let alone dwelled upon...
Meanwhile back at the competition... a couple observations...
Ever notice that in the side-by-side QB drills BH drops deeper, hits his back leg (the "injured" one) earlier and gets rid of the ball sooner than JM every time?
Also noteworthy is BH's over-the-top delivery vs. Johnny Sidearm... 3/4 sidearm anyway...
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BEREA, Ohio – Cleveland Browns fan Matt LaVelle showed up at the first day of training camp wearing a jersey with "Johnny DawgPound" taped across the back. It was a bit of refashioning he did prior to May's NFL draft in the hope that Johnny Manziel would be Cleveland's pick.Manziel was on the field here Saturday, creating the expected frenzy, or "buzz," in the parlance of Johnny Football. Yet the more LaVelle and his friend watched the side-by-side drills featuring not just Johnny, but of the zipping, accurate throws of the actual No. 1 quarterback on the depth chart, Brian Hoyer, something kept sinking in.Yes, he's a Manziel fan …"… but I like what I'm seeing out of Hoyer," LaVelle said of the low-key, local veteran (Cleveland St. Ignatius High School). Hoyer is a Michigan State product that spent three years backing up Tom Brady in New England. When he finally got a chance to start last year for the Browns, he looked good in three games before injuring his knee."Class act," owner Jimmy Haslam said of Hoyer. "He handles himself extremely well … Is there a better story? He's a hometown kid, coming off of an injury."Well, other than the first day of the rest of Johnny Manziel's life, no, there wasn't a better story.Manziel faces a steep climb here and that stark reality was evident all over the place. Or at least should be to Manziel, who must prove he can play on the field while also separating himself from a lifestyle that he unapologetically embraces.His off-field flair is one reason there were plenty of Manziel No. 2 jerseys among the capacity crowd of 4,000 but they, like the team owner who went out on a limb to draft him, will gladly forget their shiny new sensation in exchange for victories, even ones from dull old Brian Hoyer.That's why there were plenty of "Hoyer, Hoyer" chants as well.Meanwhile, Haslam didn't sound all that pleased when discussing Manziel's proclivity for partying, recommending that he model himself after LeBron James or Peyton Manning, who either avoid drinking on inflatable swans at nightclubs and holding rolled up $20 bills in Vegas bathrooms, or at least do it away from camera phones."The really great athletes make their news on the field, not off the field," Haslam said.Has that message sunk in yet?"We'll see," Haslam said.Manziel addressed Haslam's comments after practice and left lingering doubts. His speech was part concession of some nebulous mistakes, part brag session about how totally awesome his life is, you know being so popular and talented and all."Here's the thing I want to say," Manziel said. "The reason I'm popular, the reason people follow me and there's been such a buzz around me, when I went out on Saturdays at Texas A&M, I played with an extreme amount of passion and I played with my heart on my sleeve."But more than anything I had fun. I had fun playing this game, I had fun going on out on this field playing football. That's what I live for, that's what I do."The same thing off the field," he continued. "Whether I'm going out and playing golf, whether it's going out and having the nightlife, whatever it is, I'm having fun. That's what my life is. And luckily for me I'm living out my dream of playing in the NFL, having a ton of fun."My dream come true and I finally got to have some time to have some downtime and to celebrate that with my family and my friends. This is the greatest life I could've ever imagined for me and I'm loving it." "So will I continue to get better being a professional and learn lessons about life?" Manziel asked. "Of course, I'm 21 years old. Age is not an excuse but I need to mature and I've done some immature things. Moving forward I need to mature and get better and handle myself better as a professional … Life's fun. Enjoy it while it's here."Manziel can live his life anyway he chooses but if he thinks life is short and needs to be embraced, he needs to show he understands life in the NFL is even more precious. Players claim NFL means "Not For Long" for a reason.Coach Mike Pettine said he will name the Browns starter after the second preseason game, which is Aug. 18, or just over three weeks away. Right now Hoyer is getting the reps with the first team. He'll likely get to start the first two preseason games with them too. He wasn't the guy Pettine had to interrupt his vacation to call about the latest social media partying photo."I expect to be the starting quarterback," Hoyer said.In the end, this isn't going to be some grand morality tale about the dutiful worker against the talented party boy. It's quaint but unimportant. In the NFL it's about winning games and nothing else.Both quarterbacks have their fans here but nothing creates excitement, buzz or even eventual idolatry like winning."All that matters is what happens on the field," Hoyer said. "No one is going to cheer for a good guy if they're 4-12.""It's not just my name and my number on the back," Manziel said of the cheering fans before pointing to the front of his jersey. "It's Cleveland. It's the Browns."Manziel talked about the urgency of every snap. He talked about buckling down and working. He talked about getting better each and every session, of plowing through the learning curve of a more complex NFL offense.He also kept talking about how he's living the dream and should embrace it like a typical 21-year-old, except he isn't a typical 21-year-old and, as such, the dream can vanish quickly.So he better chuck it for the Browns. He better be damn, damn good. The competition is serious and significant and popularity doesn't mean a thing. Fans can always buy a new jersey."It's getting real now," Manziel said.We'll see, the man signing his checks said. We'll see.
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BEREA, Ohio – Cleveland Browns fan Matt LaVelle showed up at the first day of training camp wearing a jersey with "Johnny DawgPound" taped across the back. It was a bit of refashioning he did prior to May's NFL draft in the hope that Johnny Manziel would be Cleveland's pick.Manziel was on the field here Saturday, creating the expected frenzy, or "buzz," in the parlance of Johnny Football. Yet the more LaVelle and his friend watched the side-by-side drills featuring not just Johnny, but of the zipping, accurate throws of the actual No. 1 quarterback on the depth chart, Brian Hoyer, something kept sinking in.Yes, he's a Manziel fan …"… but I like what I'm seeing out of Hoyer," LaVelle said of the low-key, local veteran (Cleveland St. Ignatius High School). Hoyer is a Michigan State product that spent three years backing up Tom Brady in New England. When he finally got a chance to start last year for the Browns, he looked good in three games before injuring his knee."Class act," owner Jimmy Haslam said of Hoyer. "He handles himself extremely well … Is there a better story? He's a hometown kid, coming off of an injury."Well, other than the first day of the rest of Johnny Manziel's life, no, there wasn't a better story.Manziel faces a steep climb here and that stark reality was evident all over the place. Or at least should be to Manziel, who must prove he can play on the field while also separating himself from a lifestyle that he unapologetically embraces.His off-field flair is one reason there were plenty of Manziel No. 2 jerseys among the capacity crowd of 4,000 but they, like the team owner who went out on a limb to draft him, will gladly forget their shiny new sensation in exchange for victories, even ones from dull old Brian Hoyer.That's why there were plenty of "Hoyer, Hoyer" chants as well.Meanwhile, Haslam didn't sound all that pleased when discussing Manziel's proclivity for partying, recommending that he model himself after LeBron James or Peyton Manning, who either avoid drinking on inflatable swans at nightclubs and holding rolled up $20 bills in Vegas bathrooms, or at least do it away from camera phones."The really great athletes make their news on the field, not off the field," Haslam said.Has that message sunk in yet?"We'll see," Haslam said.Manziel addressed Haslam's comments after practice and left lingering doubts. His speech was part concession of some nebulous mistakes, part brag session about how totally awesome his life is, you know being so popular and talented and all."Here's the thing I want to say," Manziel said. "The reason I'm popular, the reason people follow me and there's been such a buzz around me, when I went out on Saturdays at Texas A&M, I played with an extreme amount of passion and I played with my heart on my sleeve."But more than anything I had fun. I had fun playing this game, I had fun going on out on this field playing football. That's what I live for, that's what I do."The same thing off the field," he continued. "Whether I'm going out and playing golf, whether it's going out and having the nightlife, whatever it is, I'm having fun. That's what my life is. And luckily for me I'm living out my dream of playing in the NFL, having a ton of fun."My dream come true and I finally got to have some time to have some downtime and to celebrate that with my family and my friends. This is the greatest life I could've ever imagined for me and I'm loving it." "So will I continue to get better being a professional and learn lessons about life?" Manziel asked. "Of course, I'm 21 years old. Age is not an excuse but I need to mature and I've done some immature things. Moving forward I need to mature and get better and handle myself better as a professional … Life's fun. Enjoy it while it's here."Manziel can live his life anyway he chooses but if he thinks life is short and needs to be embraced, he needs to show he understands life in the NFL is even more precious. Players claim NFL means "Not For Long" for a reason.Coach Mike Pettine said he will name the Browns starter after the second preseason game, which is Aug. 18, or just over three weeks away. Right now Hoyer is getting the reps with the first team. He'll likely get to start the first two preseason games with them too. He wasn't the guy Pettine had to interrupt his vacation to call about the latest social media partying photo."I expect to be the starting quarterback," Hoyer said.In the end, this isn't going to be some grand morality tale about the dutiful worker against the talented party boy. It's quaint but unimportant. In the NFL it's about winning games and nothing else.Both quarterbacks have their fans here but nothing creates excitement, buzz or even eventual idolatry like winning."All that matters is what happens on the field," Hoyer said. "No one is going to cheer for a good guy if they're 4-12.""It's not just my name and my number on the back," Manziel said of the cheering fans before pointing to the front of his jersey. "It's Cleveland. It's the Browns."Manziel talked about the urgency of every snap. He talked about buckling down and working. He talked about getting better each and every session, of plowing through the learning curve of a more complex NFL offense.He also kept talking about how he's living the dream and should embrace it like a typical 21-year-old, except he isn't a typical 21-year-old and, as such, the dream can vanish quickly.So he better chuck it for the Browns. He better be damn, damn good. The competition is serious and significant and popularity doesn't mean a thing. Fans can always buy a new jersey."It's getting real now," Manziel said.We'll see, the man signing his checks said. We'll see.
It amazes me how the media can turn so many people against a person . It amazes me even more knowing of the mass number of vaginas that buy into this crap. So he likes to party and take selfies with beiber queen , BIG FUC*NG DEAL.
BEREA, Ohio Cleveland Browns fan Matt LaVelle showed up at the first day of training camp wearing a jersey with "Johnny DawgPound" taped across the back. It was a bit of refashioning he did prior to May's NFL draft in the hope that Johnny Manziel would be Cleveland's pick.
Manziel was on the field here Saturday, creating the expected frenzy, or "buzz," in the parlance of Johnny Football. Yet the more LaVelle and his friend watched the side-by-side drills featuring not just Johnny, but of the zipping, accurate throws of the actual No. 1 quarterback on the depth chart, Brian Hoyer, something kept sinking in.
Yes, he's a Manziel fan
" but I like what I'm seeing out of Hoyer," LaVelle said of the low-key, local veteran (Cleveland St. Ignatius High School). Hoyer is a Michigan State product that spent three years backing up Tom Brady in New England. When he finally got a chance to start last year for the Browns, he looked good in three games before injuring his knee.
"Class act," owner Jimmy Haslam said of Hoyer. "He handles himself extremely well Is there a better story? He's a hometown kid, coming off of an injury."
Well, other than the first day of the rest of Johnny Manziel's life, no, there wasn't a better story.
Manziel faces a steep climb here and that stark reality was evident all over the place. Or at least should be to Manziel, who must prove he can play on the field while also separating himself from a lifestyle that he unapologetically embraces.
His off-field flair is one reason there were plenty of Manziel No. 2 jerseys among the capacity crowd of 4,000 but they, like the team owner who went out on a limb to draft him, will gladly forget their shiny new sensation in exchange for victories, even ones from dull old Brian Hoyer.
That's why there were plenty of "Hoyer, Hoyer" chants as well.
Meanwhile, Haslam didn't sound all that pleased when discussing Manziel's proclivity for partying, recommending that he model himself after LeBron James or Peyton Manning, who either avoid drinking on inflatable swans at nightclubs and holding rolled up $20 bills in Vegas bathrooms, or at least do it away from camera phones.
"The really great athletes make their news on the field, not off the field," Haslam said.
Has that message sunk in yet?
"We'll see," Haslam said.
Manziel addressed Haslam's comments after practice and left lingering doubts. His speech was part concession of some nebulous mistakes, part brag session about how totally awesome his life is, you know being so popular and talented and all.
"Here's the thing I want to say," Manziel said. "The reason I'm popular, the reason people follow me and there's been such a buzz around me, when I went out on Saturdays at Texas A&M, I played with an extreme amount of passion and I played with my heart on my sleeve.
"But more than anything I had fun. I had fun playing this game, I had fun going on out on this field playing football. That's what I live for, that's what I do.
"The same thing off the field," he continued. "Whether I'm going out and playing golf, whether it's going out and having the nightlife, whatever it is, I'm having fun. That's what my life is. And luckily for me I'm living out my dream of playing in the NFL, having a ton of fun.
"My dream come true and I finally got to have some time to have some downtime and to celebrate that with my family and my friends. This is the greatest life I could've ever imagined for me and I'm loving it." "So will I continue to get better being a professional and learn lessons about life?" Manziel asked. "Of course, I'm 21 years old. Age is not an excuse but I need to mature and I've done some immature things. Moving forward I need to mature and get better and handle myself better as a professional Life's fun. Enjoy it while it's here."
Manziel can live his life anyway he chooses but if he thinks life is short and needs to be embraced, he needs to show he understands life in the NFL is even more precious. Players claim NFL means "Not For Long" for a reason.
Coach Mike Pettine said he will name the Browns starter after the second preseason game, which is Aug. 18, or just over three weeks away. Right now Hoyer is getting the reps with the first team. He'll likely get to start the first two preseason games with them too. He wasn't the guy Pettine had to interrupt his vacation to call about the latest social media partying photo.
"I expect to be the starting quarterback," Hoyer said.
In the end, this isn't going to be some grand morality tale about the dutiful worker against the talented party boy. It's quaint but unimportant. In the NFL it's about winning games and nothing else.
Both quarterbacks have their fans here but nothing creates excitement, buzz or even eventual idolatry like winning.
"All that matters is what happens on the field," Hoyer said. "No one is going to cheer for a good guy if they're 4-12."
"It's not just my name and my number on the back," Manziel said of the cheering fans before pointing to the front of his jersey. "It's Cleveland. It's the Browns."
Manziel talked about the urgency of every snap. He talked about buckling down and working. He talked about getting better each and every session, of plowing through the learning curve of a more complex NFL offense.
He also kept talking about how he's living the dream and should embrace it like a typical 21-year-old, except he isn't a typical 21-year-old and, as such, the dream can vanish quickly.
So he better chuck it for the Browns. He better be damn, damn good. The competition is serious and significant and popularity doesn't mean a thing. Fans can always buy a new jersey.
"It's getting real now," Manziel said.
We'll see, the man signing his checks said. We'll see.
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It amazes me how the media can turn so many people against a person . It amazes me even more knowing of the mass number of vaginas that buy into this crap. So he likes to party and take selfies with beiber queen , BIG FUC*NG DEAL.
BEREA, Ohio Cleveland Browns fan Matt LaVelle showed up at the first day of training camp wearing a jersey with "Johnny DawgPound" taped across the back. It was a bit of refashioning he did prior to May's NFL draft in the hope that Johnny Manziel would be Cleveland's pick.
Manziel was on the field here Saturday, creating the expected frenzy, or "buzz," in the parlance of Johnny Football. Yet the more LaVelle and his friend watched the side-by-side drills featuring not just Johnny, but of the zipping, accurate throws of the actual No. 1 quarterback on the depth chart, Brian Hoyer, something kept sinking in.
Yes, he's a Manziel fan
" but I like what I'm seeing out of Hoyer," LaVelle said of the low-key, local veteran (Cleveland St. Ignatius High School). Hoyer is a Michigan State product that spent three years backing up Tom Brady in New England. When he finally got a chance to start last year for the Browns, he looked good in three games before injuring his knee.
"Class act," owner Jimmy Haslam said of Hoyer. "He handles himself extremely well Is there a better story? He's a hometown kid, coming off of an injury."
Well, other than the first day of the rest of Johnny Manziel's life, no, there wasn't a better story.
Manziel faces a steep climb here and that stark reality was evident all over the place. Or at least should be to Manziel, who must prove he can play on the field while also separating himself from a lifestyle that he unapologetically embraces.
His off-field flair is one reason there were plenty of Manziel No. 2 jerseys among the capacity crowd of 4,000 but they, like the team owner who went out on a limb to draft him, will gladly forget their shiny new sensation in exchange for victories, even ones from dull old Brian Hoyer.
That's why there were plenty of "Hoyer, Hoyer" chants as well.
Meanwhile, Haslam didn't sound all that pleased when discussing Manziel's proclivity for partying, recommending that he model himself after LeBron James or Peyton Manning, who either avoid drinking on inflatable swans at nightclubs and holding rolled up $20 bills in Vegas bathrooms, or at least do it away from camera phones.
"The really great athletes make their news on the field, not off the field," Haslam said.
Has that message sunk in yet?
"We'll see," Haslam said.
Manziel addressed Haslam's comments after practice and left lingering doubts. His speech was part concession of some nebulous mistakes, part brag session about how totally awesome his life is, you know being so popular and talented and all.
"Here's the thing I want to say," Manziel said. "The reason I'm popular, the reason people follow me and there's been such a buzz around me, when I went out on Saturdays at Texas A&M, I played with an extreme amount of passion and I played with my heart on my sleeve.
"But more than anything I had fun. I had fun playing this game, I had fun going on out on this field playing football. That's what I live for, that's what I do.
"The same thing off the field," he continued. "Whether I'm going out and playing golf, whether it's going out and having the nightlife, whatever it is, I'm having fun. That's what my life is. And luckily for me I'm living out my dream of playing in the NFL, having a ton of fun.
"My dream come true and I finally got to have some time to have some downtime and to celebrate that with my family and my friends. This is the greatest life I could've ever imagined for me and I'm loving it." "So will I continue to get better being a professional and learn lessons about life?" Manziel asked. "Of course, I'm 21 years old. Age is not an excuse but I need to mature and I've done some immature things. Moving forward I need to mature and get better and handle myself better as a professional Life's fun. Enjoy it while it's here."
Manziel can live his life anyway he chooses but if he thinks life is short and needs to be embraced, he needs to show he understands life in the NFL is even more precious. Players claim NFL means "Not For Long" for a reason.
Coach Mike Pettine said he will name the Browns starter after the second preseason game, which is Aug. 18, or just over three weeks away. Right now Hoyer is getting the reps with the first team. He'll likely get to start the first two preseason games with them too. He wasn't the guy Pettine had to interrupt his vacation to call about the latest social media partying photo.
"I expect to be the starting quarterback," Hoyer said.
In the end, this isn't going to be some grand morality tale about the dutiful worker against the talented party boy. It's quaint but unimportant. In the NFL it's about winning games and nothing else.
Both quarterbacks have their fans here but nothing creates excitement, buzz or even eventual idolatry like winning.
"All that matters is what happens on the field," Hoyer said. "No one is going to cheer for a good guy if they're 4-12."
"It's not just my name and my number on the back," Manziel said of the cheering fans before pointing to the front of his jersey. "It's Cleveland. It's the Browns."
Manziel talked about the urgency of every snap. He talked about buckling down and working. He talked about getting better each and every session, of plowing through the learning curve of a more complex NFL offense.
He also kept talking about how he's living the dream and should embrace it like a typical 21-year-old, except he isn't a typical 21-year-old and, as such, the dream can vanish quickly.
So he better chuck it for the Browns. He better be damn, damn good. The competition is serious and significant and popularity doesn't mean a thing. Fans can always buy a new jersey.
"It's getting real now," Manziel said.
We'll see, the man signing his checks said. We'll see.
It amazes me how the media can turn so many people against a person . It amazes me even more knowing of the mass number of vaginas that buy into this crap. So he likes to party and take selfies with beiber queen , BIG FUC*NG DEAL.
The guy signing his paychecks happens to think it is a big f**king deal. Sorry about that. I really don't care anymore if he parties in the off season- but as Joe Haden said, have your pals turn the cell phones off.
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According to one of the Pittsburgh scouts the Steelers (although they won't say it publicly) are expecting Manziel to be under center for the season opener.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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