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Josh Gordon Hearing Continues Monday

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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    The current expectation is that a decision will come in a week or so.

    @gftchris said:

    The current expectation is that a decision will come in a week or so.

    Good God!

    Zombo

  • I just can't understand why the league continues to drag this thing on and on and on and on..........

  • Not surprising. There is no hurry....at least on the part of the league. They can take until the season starts as far as they are concerned.. I fully expected this thing to not be resolved until just before the first regular season game.

    Deciding it any sooner would simply be a courtesy to the Browns so they can prepare better know who they will have.....but the league is under no obligation to extend that courtesy....and often they don't.

  • I expect this to be done before the first pre-season game, on the basis of nothing at all. But, if it drags on to the regular season, then he can only come back in that time next year, so misses *all* of training camp - and let's be honest, there's about a 50% chance it'll be a completely new offense that he'll be going from scratch on.

  • on the basis of nothing at all--aside from roster talent and unrelated odds--i predict Pettine Farmer et al get 2 years this time...

    they won't lose more than ten anyway, so it's moot. 😎

  • irsay conspiracy theory.

    wait and see.

  • I think he will be suspended for a year.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    I think he will be suspended for a year.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I think he will be suspended for a year.

    You crazy optimist you

  • Think you all tripping.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • If he was getting a year suspension then the decision shouldve been made already.

    The NFL was and still is dragging their feet on this issue and if he is suspended for a year, they are now messing with the start of next year. If hes out a year, that means he couldn't even APPLY for reinstatement until the middle of camp next year, then it'd be another hearing to see if he'd be let back in. So if its a year theres a chance he misses the start of NEXT year too, all because the NFL has dragged their feet.

    So it better not be a year, is what I'm saying. Because then they would have royally fucked the Browns.

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  • StocktonShortsS StocktonShorts

    If he was getting a year suspension then the decision shouldve been made already.

    The NFL was and still is dragging their feet on this issue and if he is suspended for a year, they are now messing with the start of next year. If hes out a year, that means he couldn't even APPLY for reinstatement until the middle of camp next year, then it'd be another hearing to see if he'd be let back in. So if its a year theres a chance he misses the start of NEXT year too, all because the NFL has dragged their feet.

    So it better not be a year, is what I'm saying. Because then they would have royally fucked the Browns.

    @stocktonshorts said:

    If he was getting a year suspension then the decision shouldve been made already.

    The NFL was and still is dragging their feet on this issue and if he is suspended for a year, they are now messing with the start of next year. If hes out a year, that means he couldn't even APPLY for reinstatement until the middle of camp next year, then it'd be another hearing to see if he'd be let back in. So if its a year theres a chance he misses the start of NEXT year too, all because the NFL has dragged their feet.

    So it better not be a year, is what I'm saying. Because then they would have royally fucked the Browns.

    The NFL is kinda like the honey badger, and you know how that saying goes.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    I think he will be suspended for a year.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I think he will be suspended for a year.

    Whew...that pretty much assures he'll get a significantly reduced suspension or nothing at all

  • I agree with those thinking the drug test is being shit-canned.

    Meanwhile, if Goddell is going to be consistent at all, then he needs to wait for the DUI to be resolved in court. As much as he might like to throw in a 4-game suspension now, there is no "pattern of behavior" under the personal conduct policy to justify getting in front of the court...

    ... just like in the Irsay case...

    I think Roger is in a bit of bother here.

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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/04/josh-gordon-hearing-concludes/

    Josh Gordon hearing concludes

    @gftchris said:

    Thanks for the link......

    @slowburn said:

    I just can't understand why the league continues to drag this thing on and on and on and on..........

    If this comment (from the link) is accurate- it very well could be the reason this is dragging on so long. Just maybe the NFLPA's lawyers got involved too?

    The latest from Mary Kay is Josh's lawyers think- "it might be a week or more".

    "The rules governing this matter are found in the CBA which was agreed upon by the League and Player’s Association. What ever the rules indicate are to be followed as per the CBA. That means Josh Gordon is screwed.

    However, as with all CBAs in labor negotiations, what the public and media don’t seem to realize is these rules can be amended at any time during the term of the Agreement if both sides enter into a ‘memorandum of understanding’ which would be attached to the CBA and change the provisions of the Agreement until the term is concluded and negotiations start again. In such a case, the League and PA could agree to increase the limits of detectable levels of substances and Gordon may not be as screwed as the current rules dictate. "

  • yep, they're saying they hope it's as soon as a week and hope it doesn't drag out past 3 weeks.

    now goodell has to deal with aldon smith of the niners and a guy from dallas who wants to be reinstated (the guy who was drunk and got into a crash and it killed his friend and team mate who was a passenger).

    i'm betting he doesn't get to irsay until after the season has started and with all the hoopla with teams playing again on sunday he just tries to sneak a weak ruling of an owner by like it's nothing.

    this all has the possibility of blowing up in goodell's face considering his laughable ruling on ray rice. his popularity (or lack thereof) could seriously take a big hit.

    wait until the ravens come to cleveland and the cameras start zooming in on female fans wearing shirts calling rice a woman beater and goodell his uncle tom.

  • Is Gordon practicing with the 1's?

    Because if he is ... There's your sign.

    Z

  • All WRs and RBs rotate evenly Z.

  • StocktonShortsS StocktonShorts

    If he was getting a year suspension then the decision shouldve been made already.

    The NFL was and still is dragging their feet on this issue and if he is suspended for a year, they are now messing with the start of next year. If hes out a year, that means he couldn't even APPLY for reinstatement until the middle of camp next year, then it'd be another hearing to see if he'd be let back in. So if its a year theres a chance he misses the start of NEXT year too, all because the NFL has dragged their feet.

    So it better not be a year, is what I'm saying. Because then they would have royally fucked the Browns.

    @stocktonshorts said:

    If he was getting a year suspension then the decision shouldve been made already.

    The NFL was and still is dragging their feet on this issue and if he is suspended for a year, they are now messing with the start of next year. If hes out a year, that means he couldn't even APPLY for reinstatement until the middle of camp next year, then it'd be another hearing to see if he'd be let back in. So if its a year theres a chance he misses the start of NEXT year too, all because the NFL has dragged their feet.

    So it better not be a year, is what I'm saying. Because then they would have royally fucked the Browns.

    the NFL is under no stipulations to have to speed this thing up on our account. THAT'S WHY YOU TAKE SHIT SERIOUS AS A HEART ATTACK WHEN YOU ARE IN STAGE III OF AN NFL SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM.

    IF IT'S A YEAR, NOBODY WOULD HAVE ROYALLY FUCKED THE BROWNS EXCEPT GORDON.

    this entitlement mentality so many folks have nowadays is beyond irritating.

    when will some of you realize Gordon is not the victim here?!?!? at the VERY least, after dude willingly put himself in stage three after dodging the codeine bullet he then decides to put himself in situations like being in an enclosed space (car w windows up or room w doors/windows closed) filled with mj smoke so thick it would most likely burn your eyes...proceeds to fail a UA, then continues similar behavior (there's the enormous red flag) by speeding w that same substance-mj--in the car. ok so let's believe he's not using it first hand. why would you even be near it if ur awaiting an appeal on a case ABOUT it. that's what judges, magistrates, arbitrators look at. ok you screwed up. then what did you do? oh, you sped around while ur homey was riding dirty? then promptly followed that up w a DWI a few weeks later? SMASHING! does that scream "this kid has really shown he has learned from his mistakes and is now towing the line"...ummmm no. repeating the same behaviors once is bad...multiple times is about as bad as it gets.

    his behavior shows us he either isn't concerned enough to stop, or he lacks the will and is unable to.

    👍

  • Agree.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • It's easy to sit here and say "well he only failed by a little bit" or "he was only a little bit too drunk when driving" or whatever. But he did fail, he did put himself in those positions, and that's his own fault.

    Honestly, I'm expecting a reduced sentence and an increased threshold out of this, but the guy seriously needs to reconsider the company he keeps. Or have a no-weed rule when he's around or something. His 'friends' also need to have his back more.

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