Jf takes snaps with starters

DieHardBrownsFan

@slowburn said:

for those who give a FRA; Vick scored a 20 on his Wonderdick lic. JFF 32

morris Claiborne has the dubious distinction of having the lowest score ever. he scored a fucking 4. (out of a possible 50)

even diehard can do better than that

Got a 4.5 and I beat you.

miktoxic

the wonderlick?

i would hope most of us would be able to ace that joke of a test.

manziel must have taken it after being out on the town the nite before.....thought he'd do better than 32.

StocktonShorts

32 is pretty high on that test

DieHardBrownsFan

Just took the test online, hurrying up and scored a 26. Me and Raplisburger.

Tour2ma

Pettine said he'd get reps; he got reps...

@stocktonshorts said:
I think there is some real concern about Hoyer. He has a slight limp, and he's no longer making the throws he opened camp with. Some say he's lost some zip. He might not actually be physically ready right now. Its one thing to have the knee healthy enough to play, its another to have it ready to play day in and day out.

There has been no mention of any limp except by you.

If Hoyer had knee issues, then some report of swelling, etc. would be out there.

@stocktonshorts said:

I'm sure Hoyer is medically fine, but it takes quite some time to restore all mental confidence in your knee, let alone full conditioning. I'm sure that knee feels fatigue at some point, training camp is tough on healthy players, let alone those coming off major knee surgery.

Look no further than RGIII last year. Had the knee surgery, spent all preseason telling everyone how healthy he was, but he never once looked comfortable with his knee last year. Its a mind f'er.

So he's limping, but medically fine?

Re: your "look no further"...

First, the RG3 and BH injuries had different timing. It was obvious that RG3 was never ready to play last season... he rushed back from a late, 2012 season-ending aggrevation of his original injury and still did not have surgery until after the season was over. Hoyer on the other hand went down in week 5. Hoyer went under the knife on Oct. 18; RG3 on Jan. 9. Hoyer has had 2.5 months more time to rehab.

Second, RG3 's 2012 injury was a repeat. He tore the same right ACL in 2009. Plus RG had an LCL repair at the same time. RG's operation qualifies as "major knee surgery" to borrow your hyperbolic term. Hoyer's qualifies as "knee surgery".

Not to mention the impact of a knee to a running QB, is far greater than it is for a "nifty" QB. And it's even BH's back leg so there's no hesitancy to step into throws as was the case when Brady had his left knee repaired a few years ago (2008-ish?).

When BH stops planting his right hard when he drops back, then I'll start worrying...

Objectivity is not your strong suit.

hoorta

@stocktonshorts said:

I'm sure Hoyer is medically fine, but it takes quite some time to restore all mental confidence in your knee, let alone full conditioning. I'm sure that knee feels fatigue at some point, training camp is tough on healthy players, let alone those coming off major knee surgery.

Look no further than RGIII last year. Had the knee surgery, spent all preseason telling everyone how healthy he was, but he never once looked comfortable with his knee last year. Its a mind f'er.

It's certainly possible Hoyer is experiencing what I would call conditioning fatigue. I doubt his rehab workouts were anywhere near as strenuous as training camp. I can put in 100 miles on a bike in a day- next day is rest up. Not 20 days in a row like the Tour de France riders do.

I'll parrot Tour- limp? Source please- not your subjective opinion.

@miktoxic said:

the wonderlick?

i would hope most of us would be able to ace that joke of a test.

manziel must have taken it after being out on the town the nite before.....thought he'd do better than 32.

Not as easy as you think it is Mik- the problem is there's a time limit too. Given all day, most intelligent college grads would probably score at least 32. You only have 12 minutes to answer 50 questions, that gives you about 15 seconds per question. Pat McInally was the only person to ace it, and Ryan Fitzpatrick got 48\50- both Harvard grads, and I know RF's gpa was somewhere around 3.89.

Now Claiborne scoring a 4, wow, that's hard to do.

Here's a sample question- if you suck at math, you're going to take too much time. "A bike travels 7 feet in 1/3 of a second. At the same speed, how many feet will it travel in 5 seconds?" The answer is 21 X 5 = ?

StocktonShorts

Seen it in person, Hoyer cant fully extend his knee and it causes a limp. Very noticeable when hes walking on sidelines. No clue why its not being mentioned in media, but everyone in my section was talking about it during family day, wasnt hard to see.

DieHardBrownsFan

I've read that JFF is now the starter.

Westside Steve

Brother Leon [spinks] don't need to be no rocket scientist.

"What do you do brother Leon?"

I knock motherfuckers out.

- Coach Prior

WSS

sisky fringo

@stocktonshorts said:
I think there is some real concern about Hoyer. He has a slight limp, and he's no longer making the throws he opened camp with. Some say he's lost some zip. He might not actually be physically ready right now. Its one thing to have the knee healthy enough to play, its another to have it ready to play day in and day out.

the more i read of you, the more i think i begin to smell a little "Brown Warrior" in the letters...

ur vernacular is shep-pish...but ur "alias-game" is not too shep-tacular.

--if ur not him simply disregard this post as it probably makes utterly zero sense to you. 🥷

Dste Ace

Is Hoyer wearing a knee brace? If so, I imagine that would limit his range of motion, and

would create the appearance of a limp.

Zombo

I'm getting the feeling Hoyer should have gone ahead and signed that offseason extension he was offered.

Z

The Gipper

@stocktonshorts said:
32 is pretty high on that test

32 is the 98th percentile in the ACT. I had one kid get a 32 on it, the other got a 22 (which is still the 63rd percentile)

Plus it was Jim Brown's number, so its a good number.

BrownsKidd

Mary Cay tweeted about 14 mins ago that Hoyer is back with First Team. Means nothing still as we all know they are rotating.

miktoxic

hoyer should get his leg lopped off and become a towel boy because he has a limp.

i guess when you have a limp you become useless.

The Gipper

@mike-h said:
Omg it's happening

It? What? The Rapture?

DieHardBrownsFan

@mike-h said:
Omg it's happening

I thought you left?

Westside Steve

@diehardbrownsfan said:
I thought you left?

Well after listening to years and years of preseason prognosticating by professionals getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to dissect the upcoming football season (and seeing the results) one must assume that the most astute person on a message board has insight that falls somewhere between the knowledge level one can expect from the guy that fetches coffee for the lowest assistant coach and jack shit.

I can only imagine how truly fascinating the miracle board must be.

WSS

Tour2ma

@stocktonshorts said:
Seen it in person, Hoyer cant fully extend his knee and it causes a limp. Very noticeable when hes walking on sidelines. No clue why its not being mentioned in media, but everyone in my section was talking about it during family day, wasnt hard to see.

And nothing on the RG3 comparison? Nada?

Agree with point made that the brace may be a factor.

@diehardbrownsfan said:
I thought you left?

Nah... Mikey can't quit us... lurks all the time.

miktoxic

@diehardbrownsfan said:
I thought you left?

this place is like a car wreck you can't help but to slow down just in case you might see something horrific.

plus mike is a boomerang, you toss him and he keeps coming back.