Oh look it's the Cleveland Browns forum.
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Not trolling. You guys are too used to abuse!
I like the Browns. I quiet route for you to do well. I don't get emotional about it or anything, but if I were to see the Browns at the top of their division near seasons end, I'd give my monitor a single knowing nod, as if to say: "That'll do, Cleveland. That'll do."
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Not trolling. You guys are too used to abuse!
I like the Browns. I quiet route for you to do well. I don't get emotional about it or anything, but if I were to see the Browns at the top of their division near seasons end, I'd give my monitor a single knowing nod, as if to say: "That'll do, Cleveland. That'll do."
... but if I were to see the Browns at the top of their division near seasons end, I'd give my monitor a single knowing nod, as if to say: "That'll do, Cleveland. That'll do."
So now we're pigs?
... and then they made a football out of Babe...
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So who wants Johnny? The media is trying to create a quarterback controversy in Cleveland big time. They want Manziel to start bad.
So who wants Johnny? The media is trying to create a quarterback controversy in Cleveland big time. They want Manziel to start bad.
Hoyer= Trained by Brady, Local Kid
Manziel= Heisman winner, Media, TMZ darling
Who's getting the hype? BTW- it's a strange thing getting the lead on the 6 PM Sports Center- about the Browns. This will pass, RG III is now second fiddle.
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From what I can tell, the pro-Manziel hype seems to be coming largely from outside Cleveland, whereas the pro-Hoyer hype is coming from the locals. Now, that could be either because Hoyer's the home town hero, and Manziel is the national darling, or it could be because the local media who are at practise all day every day see Hoyer being ahead of Manziel. There's too much puff on both sides to really determine which is which.
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I'd always trust local over national. ESPN and NFL Network are TMZ for guys.
That's funny that the locals are pro-Hoyer because Deon Sanders was telling the world that Cleveland fans would start chanting for Johnny after Hoyer's first incomplete pass.
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I'd always trust local over national. ESPN and NFL Network are TMZ for guys.
That's funny that the locals are pro-Hoyer because Deon Sanders was telling the world that Cleveland fans would start chanting for Johnny after Hoyer's first incomplete pass.
I'd always trust local over national. ESPN and NFL Network are TMZ for guys.
That's funny that the locals are pro-Hoyer because Deon Sanders was telling the world that Cleveland fans would start chanting for Johnny after Hoyer's first incomplete pass.
i think most of us want manziel to succeed BUT after 11 failed relationships with starting QBs we are a little skeptical. a lot of us are grasping on to the hopes that hoyer will be the guy we saw in those 2 games last year that he started and won. the coaching staff makes no bones about the fact that whoever is better will start. right now that's looking like hoyer, which is giving all the pro-manziel fans a shitfit because they believe that he should be the starter no matter what.
but most of those people are the ones that just joined the browns fan base because of manziel anyways so if he were to shit the bed they'd be gone along with him and we'd be once again searching for a franchise starter.
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From another thread I read that is now closed, "I keep a second fridge in the house because one isn't enough". The ideal situation is for depth. Browns haven't had one good QB let alone depth at the position. Relying on Hoyer alone, with such a little sample size of his performance and coming back from a major injury, is just stupid to run with him alone. My take on it is that they drafted JM looking for a win-win situation. That being a combo of great starter and great backup, whether it means Hoyer gives us some wins until JM is ready to take over a la Aaron Rodgers, or JM starts and Hoyer is our tried-and-true backup.
Beating a dead horse...but finally the season is upon us!
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I'd always trust local over national. ESPN and NFL Network are TMZ for guys.
That's funny that the locals are pro-Hoyer because Deon Sanders was telling the world that Cleveland fans would start chanting for Johnny after Hoyer's first incomplete pass.
I'd always trust local over national. ESPN and NFL Network are TMZ for guys.
That's funny that the locals are pro-Hoyer because Deon Sanders was telling the world that Cleveland fans would start chanting for Johnny after Hoyer's first incomplete pass.
1st? No... but won't take much to get the Clevelnad branch of the fanclub revved up...
Beating a dead horse...but finally the season is upon us!
It is what we do best...
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JFF will outshine Brady and Manning.
JFF will outshine Brady and Manning.
I hope you are right but honestly at this point thats a pretty ridiculous statement.
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JFF will outshine Brady and Manning.
I hope you are right but honestly at this point thats a pretty ridiculous statement.
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Why? He already is.
Outplaying? Well that's different... But possible. Neither one of those guys had a resume close to johnny at 21.
Manning had an SEC championship at 21. Johnny have one of those?
Then at 22 he was the first overall draft in the NFL. We already know Johnny isnt doing that either.
Manning then took every snap as a starter at 22, I'd love to see Johnny win the job outright and take every snap.
But Manning's resume was pretty "close" to Johnny's.
Zombo
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Thank you, Z. I almost threw my tablet when I read the comment that suggested JF had accomplished more than Manning at 21
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NE Patriots, as a fellow Bostonian, I watch many Pats and Browns games. It's made being a Browns fan even harder - especially when we lost the game last year in the final 10 minutes. There is no question in my mind that the two most important positions in sports (teams) are NFL QB and NHL Goaltender. The difference between the haves and have-nots is mind blowing!
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Thank you, Z. I almost threw my tablet when I read the comment that suggested JF had accomplished more than Manning at 21
Thank you, Z. I almost threw my tablet when I read the comment that suggested JF had accomplished more than Manning at 21
Seriously?
You're kinda derp then.
It's not even close.
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Seriously?
You're kinda derp then.
It's not even close.
The Hype wasn't even 1\10 back then what it is now. Manning was considered as close to a "can't miss" as Andrew Luck years later. Same can't be said of JF. No one, and I mean no one- didn't have a first round grade on Peyton.
The only thing that's not close is Manziel wins the champagne chugging contest, hands down.
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And all you anti Manziel folks are just as fucking embarrassing.
I think it's jealousy that the guy lives like a king and you get resentful.
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Seriously?
You're kinda derp then.
It's not even close.
Why do you keep saying that?
Are you just hanging your hat on the fact that Manning finished second in the Heisman vote?
Because, other than that, he was a consensus All-American, Maxwell Award winner, Davey O'Brien Award Winner, Golden Arm Award Winner, SEC Player of the Year, won a SEC Championship, and threw for over 11,000 yards and 89 TDs by the time he was 21.
How can you say "not close?" Just the Heisman?
Oh wait, there's another award Manziel won that Manning didn't ... The Manning Award.
Manning did not win the Manning Award.
Z
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