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  • T TXDawg

    @jcam222 said:

    I hope you are right but honestly at this point thats a pretty ridiculous statement.

    Why? He already is.

    Outplaying? Well that's different... But possible. Neither one of those guys had a resume close to johnny at 21.

    Z Zombo wrote on
    #28

    @txdawg said:

    Why? He already is.

    Outplaying? Well that's different... But possible. Neither one of those guys had a resume close to johnny at 21.

    Manning had an SEC championship at 21. Johnny have one of those?

    Then at 22 he was the first overall draft in the NFL. We already know Johnny isnt doing that either.

    Manning then took every snap as a starter at 22, I'd love to see Johnny win the job outright and take every snap.

    But Manning's resume was pretty "close" to Johnny's.

    Zombo

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  • chocoC choco wrote on
    #29

    Z....come on man....

    Why ya gotta bring up facts? Please be careful not to shatter their teenage reality. Money comes from the parents every week for doing chores....a job? What?

  • F Frenchie wrote on
    #30

    Thank you, Z. I almost threw my tablet when I read the comment that suggested JF had accomplished more than Manning at 21

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  • F Frenchie wrote on
    #31

    NE Patriots, as a fellow Bostonian, I watch many Pats and Browns games. It's made being a Browns fan even harder - especially when we lost the game last year in the final 10 minutes. There is no question in my mind that the two most important positions in sports (teams) are NFL QB and NHL Goaltender. The difference between the haves and have-nots is mind blowing!

  • F Frenchie

    Thank you, Z. I almost threw my tablet when I read the comment that suggested JF had accomplished more than Manning at 21

    T TXDawg wrote on
    #32

    @frenchie said:

    Thank you, Z. I almost threw my tablet when I read the comment that suggested JF had accomplished more than Manning at 21

    Seriously?

    You're kinda derp then.

    It's not even close.

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  • T TXDawg

    @frenchie said:

    Thank you, Z. I almost threw my tablet when I read the comment that suggested JF had accomplished more than Manning at 21

    Seriously?

    You're kinda derp then.

    It's not even close.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #33

    @txdawg said:

    Seriously?

    You're kinda derp then.

    It's not even close.

    The Hype wasn't even 1\10 back then what it is now. Manning was considered as close to a "can't miss" as Andrew Luck years later. Same can't be said of JF. No one, and I mean no one- didn't have a first round grade on Peyton.

    The only thing that's not close is Manziel wins the champagne chugging contest, hands down.

  • chocoC choco wrote on
    #34

    That's how far outta touch manzealots are.

  • chocoC choco

    That's how far outta touch manzealots are.

    USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on
    #35

    @choco said:

    That's how far outta touch manzealots are.

    They're all the same too. No regard for reason or logic. They will put words in your mouth and ignore the facts. Funny how they all share the same characteristics.

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on
    #36

    And all you anti Manziel folks are just as fucking embarrassing.

    I think it's jealousy that the guy lives like a king and you get resentful.

    chocoC USFBrownU Tour2maT hoortaH 4 Replies
  • T TXDawg

    @frenchie said:

    Thank you, Z. I almost threw my tablet when I read the comment that suggested JF had accomplished more than Manning at 21

    Seriously?

    You're kinda derp then.

    It's not even close.

    Z Zombo wrote on
    #37

    @txdawg said:

    Seriously?

    You're kinda derp then.

    It's not even close.

    Why do you keep saying that?

    Are you just hanging your hat on the fact that Manning finished second in the Heisman vote?

    Because, other than that, he was a consensus All-American, Maxwell Award winner, Davey O'Brien Award Winner, Golden Arm Award Winner, SEC Player of the Year, won a SEC Championship, and threw for over 11,000 yards and 89 TDs by the time he was 21.

    How can you say "not close?" Just the Heisman?

    Oh wait, there's another award Manziel won that Manning didn't ... The Manning Award.

    Manning did not win the Manning Award.

    Z

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    And all you anti Manziel folks are just as fucking embarrassing.

    I think it's jealousy that the guy lives like a king and you get resentful.

    chocoC choco wrote on
    #38

    @walterwhite said:

    And all you anti Manziel folks are just as fucking embarrassing.

    I think it's jealousy that the guy lives like a king and you get resentful.

    Your mind is so small you can't fathom any other reason for people to question mini-me other than jealousy. Surely it couldn't be football related....noooooooo, couldn't be.

    Seriously.....not sucking the midgets dick does not mean one doesn't like him or are against him. Wipe the cum off your lip....

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  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    And all you anti Manziel folks are just as fucking embarrassing.

    I think it's jealousy that the guy lives like a king and you get resentful.

    USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on
    #39

    @walterwhite said:

    And all you anti Manziel folks are just as fucking embarrassing.

    I think it's jealousy that the guy lives like a king and you get resentful.

    I don't think I've seen any blantent anti manziel posts. Just posts stating they hate his fans. The majority here are browns fans and root for the team not an individual player.

    And trust me, I live like a king. I have a house, wife, son, and a good paying job. My life is great and I don't need to have a hard on for a kid to make a difference. You don't need to be a millionaire to live like a king. Its obviously you're still going through puberty and are learning about life.

  • chocoC choco

    @walterwhite said:

    And all you anti Manziel folks are just as fucking embarrassing.

    I think it's jealousy that the guy lives like a king and you get resentful.

    Your mind is so small you can't fathom any other reason for people to question mini-me other than jealousy. Surely it couldn't be football related....noooooooo, couldn't be.

    Seriously.....not sucking the midgets dick does not mean one doesn't like him or are against him. Wipe the cum off your lip....

    WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on
    #40

    @choco said:

    Your mind is so small you can't fathom any other reason for people to question mini-me other than jealousy. Surely it couldn't be football related....noooooooo, couldn't be.

    Seriously.....not sucking the midgets dick does not mean one doesn't like him or are against him. Wipe the cum off your lip....

    Awww baby boy.

    Awwww grown man jealous Johnny has more money, fucks better women, and is ten times better at life and career than you.

    Awww baby boy you'll be okay.

    Didn't make much money, pull any ass, or have fun growing up so get jealous.

    Awww baby boy too bad he's your future QB and there isn't anything you can about it.

    Aww, I am literally doing the money sign right in your face and there's nothing you can do about it.

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    @choco said:

    Your mind is so small you can't fathom any other reason for people to question mini-me other than jealousy. Surely it couldn't be football related....noooooooo, couldn't be.

    Seriously.....not sucking the midgets dick does not mean one doesn't like him or are against him. Wipe the cum off your lip....

    Awww baby boy.

    Awwww grown man jealous Johnny has more money, fucks better women, and is ten times better at life and career than you.

    Awww baby boy you'll be okay.

    Didn't make much money, pull any ass, or have fun growing up so get jealous.

    Awww baby boy too bad he's your future QB and there isn't anything you can about it.

    Aww, I am literally doing the money sign right in your face and there's nothing you can do about it.

    USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on
    #41

    @walterwhite said:

    Awww baby boy.

    Awwww grown man jealous Johnny has more money, fucks better women, and is ten times better at life and career than you.

    Awww baby boy you'll be okay.

    Didn't make much money, pull any ass, or have fun growing up so get jealous.

    Awww baby boy too bad he's your future QB and there isn't anything you can about it.

    Aww, I am literally doing the money sign right in your face and there's nothing you can do about it.

    Are you 10? Talk about lame. You seem the one who's jealousy. You're just not worth anymore timeb

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on
    #42

    No I just like to piss off choco. I will talk down to that old man.

    He's so pissed off that Manziel is a Brown.

    He's angry, jealous, bitter, and pissed off that a 21 year old has already surpassed him in nearly every single category in life.

  • chocoC choco wrote on
    #43

    Then keep trying....cause you're not even close to getting to me. That's the difference between children and adults. High school smack is funny....not disparaging.

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    And all you anti Manziel folks are just as fucking embarrassing.

    I think it's jealousy that the guy lives like a king and you get resentful.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #44

    @walterwhite said:

    And all you anti Manziel folks are just as fucking embarrassing.

    I think it's jealousy that the guy lives like a king and you get resentful.

    Jesus, Walter... you really gonna start down that path again? You know where it leads...

    Zombo said:

    Oh wait, there's another award Manziel won that Manning didn't ... The Manning Award.

    Perfect!

    I still cannot believe how many folks confuse hype and "excitement" with accomplishment.

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  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    And all you anti Manziel folks are just as fucking embarrassing.

    I think it's jealousy that the guy lives like a king and you get resentful.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #45

    @walterwhite said:

    And all you anti Manziel folks are just as fucking embarrassing.

    I think it's jealousy that the guy lives like a king and you get resentful.

    Wow, Johnny "lives like a king". Compared to Who? He's a damn street Urchin compared to the top 20 http://www.celebritynetworth.com/list/top-50-royals/ Has to slum with Mayweather, who's down on the list. http://www.celebritynetworth.com/list/top-50-richest-athletes/

    @walterwhite said:

    Awww baby boy.

    Awwww grown man jealous Johnny has more money, fucks better women, and is ten times better at life and career than you.

    Awww baby boy you'll be okay.

    Didn't make much money, pull any ass, or have fun growing up so get jealous.

    Awww baby boy too bad he's your future QB and there isn't anything you can about it.

    Aww, I am literally doing the money sign right in your face and there's nothing you can do about it.

    Aw, give it up WW- we aren't fucking impressed in the least about JF's lifestyle- (apparently you sure as hell are- you constantly bring it up at every opportunity). It helped he got born into a (relatively) rich family. There's old wealth in Boston that shits more money than Johnny has- and they've never worked a day in their lives at a productive job.

    You really have to dredge up your old shit? You need some new material.

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on
    #46

    I'm not going after the top 20 richest celebrities, Mayweather, or old Money in Boston.

    I'm going after a bunch of message simpleton hacks who are pissed off Manziel the future of the Browns so they belittle him any chance they get it.

    Johnny is the future.

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  • gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #47

    WW, people aren't pissed off that JF has a chance to be the future of the franchise. There has been no QB even coming close to lifting the team out of obscurity, being the starter for even 5 years, let alone 15, so if JF is that guy, he'll be a god around Cleveland (and probably other parts of the country as well).

    His lifestyle - people look at it and think it doesn't exactly represent someone whose life is dedicated to his craft. When you combine that with the fact that everyone, yourself included, knows he needs to make some major adjustments to succeed in the NFL, people start to question his work ethic, and how seriously he takes it. When you compare that to someone like Brian Hoyer - who is *extremely* easy to root for - who's coming in every day in the offseason to work on his rehab, spending his time working on his throws with receivers, people get even more concerned.

    Of course, all his partying was during the offseason when there was no training around. Everyone said, if he still does this when training camp starts, when pre-season starts, then he's in trouble. He hasn't, he's been very quiet and impressed important people with his work ethic.

    So people are hoping either he or Brian Hoyer succeeds. Largely, they won't care which one, but if pressed, people from Cleveland will want Hoyer to be successful, because he's from the area, and it would be an amazing rags to riches story. But if JF wins the superbowl, there'll be a million kids in Cleveland called Johnny, every other street will be Manziel Way and there'll be a statue of him in downtown.

    Sorry, I'm rambling, it's early. But people aren't as anti-JF as you think. People might be pro-Hoyer. People are above all, though, pro-winning.

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