No Huddle Bubble
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Because they say they have not decided yet on a QB, but this kind of offense is designed specifically for JF and not Hoyer, whose main experience is in the typical 18 word play coming out of a huddle.
Well, just because they may "dumb it down" for JFF doesn't mean that he is getting the nod. I expect that Hoyer could operate with the dumbed down play calls as well.
Again, don't think that this is the sign of the Rapture just yet.
We don't know even if Debbie Harry is warming up her vocal chords.
Well, just because they may "dumb it down" for JFF doesn't mean that he is getting the nod. I expect that Hoyer could operate with the dumbed down play calls as well.
Again, don't think that this is the sign of the Rapture just yet.
We don't know even if Debbie Harry is warming up her vocal chords.
You probably lost half the board with the Blondie reference.
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I got the reference, but didn't know she had gained a lot of weight. Is that where you were going with it?
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I got the reference, but didn't know she had gained a lot of weight. Is that where you were going with it?
I got the reference, but didn't know she had gained a lot of weight. Is that where you were going with it?
Ah... but once upon a time Debbie was as hot as a cigarette burn...
Was a nice thread, Ibb, until the JM tea leave reading reared its head... again...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I am betting that the browns will name hoyer the starter not because he is better than manziel but because he is better groomed, has more poise and is less spontaneous than JR..
Hoyer can work with the no huddle as well but he does not possess the true dual threat that manziel does and if our running game isnt broken he shouldnt need to..
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I am betting that the browns will name hoyer the starter not because he is better than manziel but because he is better groomed, has more poise and is less spontaneous than JR..
Hoyer can work with the no huddle as well but he does not possess the true dual threat that manziel does and if our running game isnt broken he shouldnt need to..
I am betting that the browns will name hoyer the starter not because he is better than manziel but because he is better groomed, has more poise and is less spontaneous than JR..
Hoyer can work with the no huddle as well but he does not possess the true dual threat that manziel does and if our running game isnt broken he shouldnt need to..
betting what?
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Well, just because they may "dumb it down" for JFF doesn't mean that he is getting the nod. I expect that Hoyer could operate with the dumbed down play calls as well.
Again, don't think that this is the sign of the Rapture just yet.
We don't know even if Debbie Harry is warming up her vocal chords.
You probably lost half the board with the Blondie reference.
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I got the reference, but didn't know she had gained a lot of weight. Is that where you were going with it?
Ah... but once upon a time Debbie was as hot as a cigarette burn...
Was a nice thread, Ibb, until the JM tea leave reading reared its head... again...
Ah... but once upon a time Debbie was as hot as a cigarette burn...
The same was true with Nancy Wilson of Heart....but now sometimes I think I see her hovering over sporting events.
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Hmmm-this is almost funny: "Part of the no-huddle process for the Browns on offense is shrinking the 18-word play calls to just two or three. These plays are coded inside the game plan."
You are aware that Johnny now has two years experience running the no huddle exactly this way plus some hand signals to augment when change of play is dictated by the defense seen.
Are we being tipped off that the Browns are definitely adjusting to the player?
Hmmm-this is almost funny: "Part of the no-huddle process for the Browns on offense is shrinking the 18-word play calls to just two or three. These plays are coded inside the game plan."
You are aware that Johnny now has two years experience running the no huddle exactly this way plus some hand signals to augment when change of play is dictated by the defense seen.
Are we being tipped off that the Browns are definitely adjusting to the player?
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Ashamed to admit it... but I chuckled at "puma pants"...
Ah... but once upon a time Debbie was as hot as a cigarette burn...
The same was true with Nancy Wilson of Heart....but now sometimes I think I see her hovering over sporting events.
I was always more partial to Ann Wilson... So don't tell me I can't pick a winner!
The big question, however, is who caught my Videodrome reference?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Ashamed to admit it... but I chuckled at "puma pants"...
Ah... but once upon a time Debbie was as hot as a cigarette burn...
The same was true with Nancy Wilson of Heart....but now sometimes I think I see her hovering over sporting events.
I was always more partial to Ann Wilson... So don't tell me I can't pick a winner!
The big question, however, is who caught my Videodrome reference?
Ashamed to admit it... but I chuckled at "puma pants"...
I was always more partial to Ann Wilson... So don't tell me I can't pick a winner!
The big question, however, is who caught my Videodrome reference?
one of the first movies i saw on the breakthrough 'video disc' format. it was kinda cool from what i remember of it. like '83?
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Why on earth would they be looking to change their offensive philosophy halfway through preseason camp? Surely it's not about fitting your system to exploit the talents of your players. Which other QB on the roster is experienced in pushing that kind of tempo, game in, game out, the entire game?
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pphhhttttt!
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Why on earth would they be looking to change their offensive philosophy halfway through preseason camp? Surely it's not about fitting your system to exploit the talents of your players. Which other QB on the roster is experienced in pushing that kind of tempo, game in, game out, the entire game?
Why on earth would they be looking to change their offensive philosophy halfway through preseason camp? Surely it's not about fitting your system to exploit the talents of your players. Which other QB on the roster is experienced in pushing that kind of tempo, game in, game out, the entire game?
Why does it have to be a change? Why not simply a build?
If you look at Pettine's recent comments on the Hurry-up... it seems like a build to me. And it would make perfect sense to build the play calls to their umpteen word form before reducing to three, which does not strike me as a "simplification". Having to speak fewer words while having the same depth of understanding is not simpler. What may be simpler is that not all umpteen word play calls make it to the three word list.
As for experience in the hurry up... JM has more, but it's not like traditional QBs can't adapt, e.g., Nick Foles, Big Ben. Every NFL team has had a 2-minute offense for as long as I can remember.
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Why on earth would they be looking to change their offensive philosophy halfway through preseason camp? Surely it's not about fitting your system to exploit the talents of your players. Which other QB on the roster is experienced in pushing that kind of tempo, game in, game out, the entire game?
Why does it have to be a change? Why not simply a build?
If you look at Pettine's recent comments on the Hurry-up... it seems like a build to me. And it would make perfect sense to build the play calls to their umpteen word form before reducing to three, which does not strike me as a "simplification". Having to speak fewer words while having the same depth of understanding is not simpler. What may be simpler is that not all umpteen word play calls make it to the three word list.
As for experience in the hurry up... JM has more, but it's not like traditional QBs can't adapt, e.g., Nick Foles, Big Ben. Every NFL team has had a 2-minute offense for as long as I can remember.
Why does it have to be a change? Why not simply a build?
If you look at Pettine's recent comments on the Hurry-up... it seems like a build to me. And it would make perfect sense to build the play calls to their umpteen word form before reducing to three, which does not strike me as a "simplification". Having to speak fewer words while having the same depth of understanding is not simpler. What may be simpler is that not all umpteen word play calls make it to the three word list.
As for experience in the hurry up... JM has more, but it's not like traditional QBs can't adapt, e.g., Nick Foles, Big Ben. Every NFL team has had a 2-minute offense for as long as I can remember.
All good points. Three words is in fact more simple to communicate than 15, regardless of it's meaning. Build = change, but I don't want to get into semantics here, just calling it like I see it without the sugarcoating.
But you are right, it doesn't make the offense more simple, just the manner in which it is communicated and executed, thus allowing for more speed in running the offense and getting the ball snapped quicker. Every second matters when you run a hurry up, the goal is to snap the ball before the defense can get comfortable and get set, also for substitution purposes and wearing down a defense. The quicker the offense, the bigger the advantage, if it's run correctly and the plays are executed. It puts the defense at a disadvantage. But running a two minute offense is not the same as running a hurry up offense at full speed for 60 minutes. It's not something that a QB can learn to run effectively in just a few practices. You have to be very well conditioned to push the tempo to the max play-in, play-out for entire games.
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Clearly changes made for JM. They've already said he's the starter.
Canton is currently creating a space for him in the HOF.
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Why does it have to be a change? Why not simply a build?
If you look at Pettine's recent comments on the Hurry-up... it seems like a build to me. And it would make perfect sense to build the play calls to their umpteen word form before reducing to three, which does not strike me as a "simplification". Having to speak fewer words while having the same depth of understanding is not simpler. What may be simpler is that not all umpteen word play calls make it to the three word list.
As for experience in the hurry up... JM has more, but it's not like traditional QBs can't adapt, e.g., Nick Foles, Big Ben. Every NFL team has had a 2-minute offense for as long as I can remember.
All good points. Three words is in fact more simple to communicate than 15, regardless of it's meaning. Build = change, but I don't want to get into semantics here, just calling it like I see it without the sugarcoating.
But you are right, it doesn't make the offense more simple, just the manner in which it is communicated and executed, thus allowing for more speed in running the offense and getting the ball snapped quicker. Every second matters when you run a hurry up, the goal is to snap the ball before the defense can get comfortable and get set, also for substitution purposes and wearing down a defense. The quicker the offense, the bigger the advantage, if it's run correctly and the plays are executed. It puts the defense at a disadvantage. But running a two minute offense is not the same as running a hurry up offense at full speed for 60 minutes. It's not something that a QB can learn to run effectively in just a few practices. You have to be very well conditioned to push the tempo to the max play-in, play-out for entire games.
All good points. Three words is in fact more simple to communicate than 15, regardless of it's meaning. Build = change, but I don't want to get into semantics here, just calling it like I see it without the sugarcoating.
But you are right, it doesn't make the offense more simple, just the manner in which it is communicated and executed, thus allowing for more speed in running the offense and getting the ball snapped quicker. Every second matters when you run a hurry up, the goal is to snap the ball before the defense can get comfortable and get set, also for substitution purposes and wearing down a defense. The quicker the offense, the bigger the advantage, if it's run correctly and the plays are executed. It puts the defense at a disadvantage. But running a two minute offense is not the same as running a hurry up offense at full speed for 60 minutes. It's not something that a QB can learn to run effectively in just a few practices. You have to be very well conditioned to push the tempo to the max play-in, play-out for entire games.
We are dangerously close to completely agreeing...
My 2-minute point was simply to demonstrate that it is not a foreign concept. Pushing pace for a complete game is certainly more taxing... mentally as well as physically... especially for QBs.
I believe the hurry-up will be brought along slowly. I do not see it being the preferred, primary scheme of our Defense-oriented HC. I see it being a situational choice to push an perceived advantage, e.g., after a quick turnover.
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