JF leapfrogs Hoyer (accord. to source)
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Nothing about Johnny Goofball impressed me in his first outing. He took the snap, looked at the primary receiver,and if it wasn't open took off running. I will make a prediction. If Hoyer stays healthy he will be the starter the entire season. If not, Johnny will get his shot. If Hoyer (God forbid) gets hurt early in the season you may see Johnny Goofball for two or three weeks and then Rex Grossman will finish out the rest of yet another miserable season.
nothing is set in stone. a lot rests on this monday night's game.
i wouldn't count anyone out right now. people are predicting this washington vs. cleveland preseason game to be the most watched preseason game EVER. if it weren't for manziel i'm sure that wouldn't be the case. is that a reason to love manziel? no. do you back him as a browns fan? hell yes. but as said before, i back everyone on this team from the ball scrubbers to the owner.
nothing is set in stone. a lot rests on this monday night's game.
i wouldn't count anyone out right now. people are predicting this washington vs. cleveland preseason game to be the most watched preseason game EVER. if it weren't for manziel i'm sure that wouldn't be the case. is that a reason to love manziel? no. do you back him as a browns fan? hell yes. but as said before, i back everyone on this team from the ball scrubbers to the owner.
Yup, the Nation will be tuning in to see Manziel play.
Excuses? That is all you guys do for Hoyer!
Nobody has to make excuses for Johnny. Johnny was the first freshman in history to win the heisman. He owns the three highest yards per game in the history of the SEC. He was drafted in the first round of the draft. Now, let's hear your excuses for why Hoyer's resume doesn't stack up at all.
Have to bring up how great Manziel was in COLLEGE again? Still haven't figured out we're not impressed? Archie Griffin- TWO Heismans, Hoyer's mentor, Tom Brady was a nobody in COLLEGE if you remember. It's like talking to a wall. Here's Hoyer's resume. Browns won all three games he started in, had nice 4th quarter drive to win on the road against the Vikings. Manziel's regular season resume? Well it doesn't exist.
However- the Manzealots already have him in the HOF, based on his college performance.
All the JF thumpers can say about Hoyer is- career backup. Well Bango, us oldsters saw something in that three game stretch that says "maybe not". We want to see more. If Brian comes out and stinks up the place now that teams have tape on him, you'll get your wish to see Manziel soon enough. Without any disagreement from us.
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The Browns don't need Manziel, they were just fine withou....wait.... nevermind
I really don't get the hate. I think it's more of a personal ego issue than anything. Nobody wants to be told that their team sucks, but when you have a once in a lifetime type player that could very quickly change all the agony of being a Browns fan, instead of embracing it, you want to puff out your chest and justify your manhood with the argument that "I am a true Browns fan! See? I liked the Browns BEFORE we got Manziel, so I am better than you, and you are GAY!"
Grow up, you need to work on your self-esteem there Mik. Manziel MAY be the best thing that has happened to this program in who knows when. As an Aggie fan and fan of Manziel, I had always said that he would be fine as long as he didn't get drafted by the Browns. If he can be successful in Cleveland, it just adds to the legend of JFF.
I can relate to Browns fans, I have been and Aggie fan my whole life, and had to endure the dark ages of mediocrity for well over a decade. I hope that you guys can experience the same success we had with JFF and I'm truly inspired to root for the Browns, I want JF to succeed at a place that NO other QB has been able to do in who knows how long... Once the prophecy of The Legend of Johnny Football has been realized, I will go quietly into the night, but not without a few smiles and a few "I told ya so's"
Yall are in for a real fun next few years, hope yall enjoy watching him play as much as the rest of the world, and really hoping the Browns have a lot of success with him. I will be rooting for the Browns for the foreseeable future. Maybe not for the same reasons as some of you, but what difference does that make? Doesn't make me gay and doesn't make you a better man, like it or not, Manziel just TRIPLED your fanbase overnight, y'all are probably outnumbered now. Enjoy it while yall can, I would bet the farm that he will not stick around in Cleveland any longer than he absolutely has to.
dude. you guys just don't get it.
no one here hates manziel. we 'hate' you fans that are shoving him in our face every 2 seconds. no one is proclaiming hoyer as an all star stud NFL QB. sure there have been comparisons made here ONLY in response to some stupid college stats that one of you JF fans put up meant to demean hoyer. but i've never claimed him to be that. and again hoyer and manziel are both browns, so we on this board tend to stick up for browns players. i'm sure if some troll came on here bashing manziel like you guys do hoyer there'd be plenty of us talking to them the same way we do you.
i'm sure manziel wants to win the starting job. i'm sure hoyer does too. why not let it play out on the field? you should have nothing to worry about, correct?
if it weren't for the JF fan base (Johnny Football.....you'll never hear me refer to him as that. johnny manziel? yes) life around here would be a lot more enjoyable. quite frankly i'm sure if he (manziel) were to read some of your posts i think me might be a little/lot embarrassed. and as far as him not sticking around in cleveland..........if you believe that then why don't you do a preemptive strike and pack YOUR bags and leave now?
so we on this board tend to stick up for browns players. i'm sure if some troll came on here bashing manziel like you guys do hoyer there'd be plenty of us talking to them the same way we do you.
You are so full of shit. I've seen you call him a midget on another thread, and the post right under yours calls him "little guy" and that same poster usually calls him "mini-me." Then another poster on this thread calls him "Johnny Goofball." Why aren't you calling these guys out like you do anybody that says anything about Hoyer?
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nothing is set in stone. a lot rests on this monday night's game.
i wouldn't count anyone out right now. people are predicting this washington vs. cleveland preseason game to be the most watched preseason game EVER. if it weren't for manziel i'm sure that wouldn't be the case. is that a reason to love manziel? no. do you back him as a browns fan? hell yes. but as said before, i back everyone on this team from the ball scrubbers to the owner.
Yup, the Nation will be tuning in to see Manziel play.
Excuses? That is all you guys do for Hoyer!
Nobody has to make excuses for Johnny. Johnny was the first freshman in history to win the heisman. He owns the three highest yards per game in the history of the SEC. He was drafted in the first round of the draft. Now, let's hear your excuses for why Hoyer's resume doesn't stack up at all.
Have to bring up how great Manziel was in COLLEGE again? Still haven't figured out we're not impressed? Archie Griffin- TWO Heismans, Hoyer's mentor, Tom Brady was a nobody in COLLEGE if you remember. It's like talking to a wall. Here's Hoyer's resume. Browns won all three games he started in, had nice 4th quarter drive to win on the road against the Vikings. Manziel's regular season resume? Well it doesn't exist.
However- the Manzealots already have him in the HOF, based on his college performance.
All the JF thumpers can say about Hoyer is- career backup. Well Bango, us oldsters saw something in that three game stretch that says "maybe not". We want to see more. If Brian comes out and stinks up the place now that teams have tape on him, you'll get your wish to see Manziel soon enough. Without any disagreement from us.
Yup, the Nation will be tuning in to see Manziel play.
All you can bring up is how great Manziel was in COLLEGE, still haven't figured out we're not impressed? Archie Griffin- TWO Heismans, It's like talking to a wall. Here's Hoyer's resume. Browns won all three games he started in, had nice 4th quarter drive to win on the road against the Vikings. Manziel's regular season resume? Well it doesn't exist.
However- the Manzealots already have him in the HOF, based on his college performance.
Yeah, and you can't name one time Hoyer was great, EVER. Not in college, not in pros, not EVER. Let Johnny start three games and he will pass anything Hoyer has ever accomplished in his six years in the NFL.
And it's funny that you are crediting Hoyer with a win when he blew out his ACL so early in that third game. That's how pathetic his resume is, you have to basically make crap up for him to make it sound better.
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You mean the exact same play Hoyer ran and threw to the fb and the fb dropped?
Yeah, watch Johnny in context. On first and ten, he throws that ball. When it's third or fourth down and he knows he damn well better make sure he gets the first, he will keep it every time. Again, this is because Johnny understands the game better than any player I've ever seen at his age.
I'm sure compared to your understanding of the game JM's understanding must take on mythic proportions.
I'm sure compared to your understanding of the game JM's understanding must take on mythic proportions.
Sick burn, man.
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not sure if anyone mentioned this or not but JF in an interview today said he is not ready for the regular season yet but he will be by opening day. Probably a good reason as to why he did not get the start Monday night.
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Yup, the Nation will be tuning in to see Manziel play.
All you can bring up is how great Manziel was in COLLEGE, still haven't figured out we're not impressed? Archie Griffin- TWO Heismans, It's like talking to a wall. Here's Hoyer's resume. Browns won all three games he started in, had nice 4th quarter drive to win on the road against the Vikings. Manziel's regular season resume? Well it doesn't exist.
However- the Manzealots already have him in the HOF, based on his college performance.
Yeah, and you can't name one time Hoyer was great, EVER. Not in college, not in pros, not EVER. Let Johnny start three games and he will pass anything Hoyer has ever accomplished in his six years in the NFL.
And it's funny that you are crediting Hoyer with a win when he blew out his ACL so early in that third game. That's how pathetic his resume is, you have to basically make crap up for him to make it sound better.
Yeah, and you can't name one time Hoyer was great, EVER. Not in college, not in pros, not EVER. Let Johnny start three games and he will pass anything Hoyer has ever accomplished in his six years in the NFL.
And it's funny that you are crediting Hoyer with a win when he blew out his ACL so early in that third game. That's how pathetic his resume is, you have to basically make crap up for him to make it sound better.
You're hopelessly blinded by Manziel mania. And You're bordering on being a troll.
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Yeah, and you can't name one time Hoyer was great, EVER. Not in college, not in pros, not EVER. Let Johnny start three games and he will pass anything Hoyer has ever accomplished in his six years in the NFL.
And it's funny that you are crediting Hoyer with a win when he blew out his ACL so early in that third game. That's how pathetic his resume is, you have to basically make crap up for him to make it sound better.
You're hopelessly blinded by Manziel mania. And You're bordering on being a troll.
You're hopelessly blinded by Manziel mania. And You're bordering on being a troll.
Because I think Johnny can win two regular season games?
That's all Hoyer has accomplished in his entire time in the NFL. That is what everyone keeps pointing to when I ask what Hoyer has done that Manziel has not. Is it not?
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so we on this board tend to stick up for browns players. i'm sure if some troll came on here bashing manziel like you guys do hoyer there'd be plenty of us talking to them the same way we do you.
You are so full of shit. I've seen you call him a midget on another thread, and the post right under yours calls him "little guy" and that same poster usually calls him "mini-me." Then another poster on this thread calls him "Johnny Goofball." Why aren't you calling these guys out like you do anybody that says anything about Hoyer?
You are so full of shit. I've seen you call him a midget on another thread
yep, i'm guilty of that. i've called him midget. hell i called my grandmother an old witch, my current girl a c word, my best friend a flaming fuck face..................so?
who am i to tell other BROWNS fans what to think? there's a big difference between a long-time member of this board and someone who just joined 3 days ago just to instigate trouble (you). there's also a difference between a browns fan and a ___________(insert name) fan. do i agree with everything everybody says on here? no. do they agree with everything i say? hell no. but after being here awhile you gain respect. even some of the most hardcore JF fans have gained my respect and have stuck around.
stay on your current course and i give you about another 24 hours.
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You're hopelessly blinded by Manziel mania. And You're bordering on being a troll.
Because I think Johnny can win two regular season games?
That's all Hoyer has accomplished in his entire time in the NFL. That is what everyone keeps pointing to when I ask what Hoyer has done that Manziel has not. Is it not?
Dude, you're wasting your time and the argument has gone on and on and on. Nothing new is being said about either QB. Hoyer looked good for the short time he has started. Manziel was a beast in college and I think he will be very exciting to watch at the pro level. I also believe he is the future at QB, not Hoyer. With that being said, we can wait a little longer to see how it plays out, or we can continue to argue about it until we are blue in the face.Because I think Johnny can win two regular season games?
That's all Hoyer has accomplished in his entire time in the NFL. That is what everyone keeps pointing to when I ask what Hoyer has done that Manziel has not. Is it not?
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this^^
x1k.
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Sick burn, man.
Thank you???
not sure if anyone mentioned this or not but JF in an interview today said he is not ready for the regular season yet but he will be by opening day. Probably a good reason as to why he did not get the start Monday night.
Reason like he is still behind? Yup...
Just posted it in another thread...
Manziel: 'I'm not ready for Pittsburgh'
http://www.wkyc.com/story/sports/nfl/browns/2014/08/16/manziel-im-not-ready-for-pittsburgh/14162577/
"That's not saying I'm not ready or I won't be ready. I don't want that taken out of context. It's just right now in my second preseason game, I'm not ready to go out and start week one because there's a lot of time left until that point."
Lot of time? Now until Tuesday morning is "a lot of time"?
... my current girl a c word...
You must be rich....
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bountifully so.
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Dude, you're wasting your time and the argument has gone on and on and on. Nothing new is being said about either QB. Hoyer looked good for the short time he has started. Manziel was a beast in college and I think he will be very exciting to watch at the pro level. I also believe he is the future at QB, not Hoyer. With that being said, we can wait a little longer to see how it plays out, or we can continue to argue about it until we are blue in the face.Because I think Johnny can win two regular season games?
That's all Hoyer has accomplished in his entire time in the NFL. That is what everyone keeps pointing to when I ask what Hoyer has done that Manziel has not. Is it not?
Dude, you're wasting your time and the argument has gone on and on and on. Nothing new is being said about either QB. Hoyer looked good for the short time he has started. Manziel was a beast in college and I think he will be very exciting to watch at the pro level. I also believe he is the future at QB, not Hoyer. With that being said, we can wait a little longer to see how it plays out, or we can continue to argue about it until we are blue in the face.
Fair enough.
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