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  • Maybe he's our Shawshank Redemption...

  • BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd

    Maybe he's our Shawshank Redemption...

    @brownskidd said:

    Maybe he's our Shawshank Redemption...

    Wait...are you serious? That's the 30th time that's been used in 12 hours. We got it.
  • W Westside Steve

    I liked the kid when we drafted him and I think he performed admirably.

    I wonder how long Grossman would stay on the practice squad, probably not very. Can we hire him as an assistant coach? Then we can re sign him if somebody gets hurt?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I liked the kid when we drafted him and I think he performed admirably.

    I wonder how long Grossman would stay on the practice squad, probably not very. Can we hire him as an assistant coach? Then we can re sign him if somebody gets hurt?

    WSS

    We didn't draft him. He went undrafted, we signed him. For what it's worth.

  • Football is about the easiest sport to sit back and be a Monday morning quarterback( Tuesday in this case). But the truth about what Conner can do was not even shown in Monday's game. He is the best I have ever seen at keeping the chains moving. He always knows where he has to go to get a first down etc. If he would have played more than two minutes last night the Brown's would have simply won the game. The other QB's looked sloppy with their execution. Sure he played against the third string guys but he also played with a third string line on his side. Give the kid a chance and finally be a winner in Cleveland. I'm a Brown's fan that truly believes in this kid. Pick any game that he has played in and watch his desire and mechanics, they are second to none. If he gets cut from the team you will eventually get beat by him in the future.

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  • A alpine1963

    Football is about the easiest sport to sit back and be a Monday morning quarterback( Tuesday in this case). But the truth about what Conner can do was not even shown in Monday's game. He is the best I have ever seen at keeping the chains moving. He always knows where he has to go to get a first down etc. If he would have played more than two minutes last night the Brown's would have simply won the game. The other QB's looked sloppy with their execution. Sure he played against the third string guys but he also played with a third string line on his side. Give the kid a chance and finally be a winner in Cleveland. I'm a Brown's fan that truly believes in this kid. Pick any game that he has played in and watch his desire and mechanics, they are second to none. If he gets cut from the team you will eventually get beat by him in the future.

    @alpine1963 said:

    Football is about the easiest sport to sit back and be a Monday morning quarterback( Tuesday in this case). But the truth about what Conner can do was not even shown in Monday's game. He is the best I have ever seen at keeping the chains moving. He always knows where he has to go to get a first down etc. If he would have played more than two minutes last night the Brown's would have simply won the game. The other QB's looked sloppy with their execution. Sure he played against the third string guys but he also played with a third string line on his side. Give the kid a chance and finally be a winner in Cleveland. I'm a Brown's fan that truly believes in this kid. Pick any game that he has played in and watch his desire and mechanics, they are second to none. If he gets cut from the team you will eventually get beat by him in the future.

    I think he at least earned closer consideration.

  • Are we serious right now? Connor played the bottom of the roster, got a lot of his stats again prevent D, had a TE catch a hail Mary and had a WR make a fantastic catch on an overthrown ball.

    Yeah, he played well. But come on. Are we really going to look this desperate this quickly?

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • Shaw looked pretty polished as a QB. Yes, we must consider the opponent, but still his mechanics and poise was pretty good. I'd like to see Shaw play most of the 4th preseason game. Let's see what he has.

  • Always amazed me how guys like Connor Shaw dont get drafted when guys like JF go first round. Espn??? Shaw is taller than manziel. Has a pretty decent resume to boot. 27-5 at SC in the overratted SEC. 17-0 at home. Steve Spurrier knows good qbs.

    I would amost bet money that Kenny Hill has a monster year at QB. (Texas A&M QB).

    I dont know that drafting Manziel was a mistake or not. It sure doesnt look good. He is a project QB and that is exactly what the Browns did not need. It would be very interesting to see Shaw get one solid crack with the first string offense in game 3 or maybe game 4. Or maybe they should just cut him now before he throws a wrench into this JOKE of a compitition

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • Many of you must think our coaches are idiots for choosing between only JM and BH for the starting QB job. I mean how could they have missed the obvious choice during the whole time of daily practices, playbook study sessions, etc, Sorry but had he been in earlier in the game with the 1's against 1s the result would have been exactly the same. If you have no time due to a leaky O line against far faster players, then nothing has changed for whomever is plugged in as QB.

  • T TexasAg1969

    Many of you must think our coaches are idiots for choosing between only JM and BH for the starting QB job. I mean how could they have missed the obvious choice during the whole time of daily practices, playbook study sessions, etc, Sorry but had he been in earlier in the game with the 1's against 1s the result would have been exactly the same. If you have no time due to a leaky O line against far faster players, then nothing has changed for whomever is plugged in as QB.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Many of you must think our coaches are idiots for choosing between only JM and BH for the starting QB job. I mean how could they have missed the obvious choice during the whole time of daily practices, playbook study sessions, etc, Sorry but had he been in earlier in the game with the 1's against 1s the result would have been exactly the same. If you have no time due to a leaky O line against far faster players, then nothing has changed for whomever is plugged in as QB.

    so you are saying the Mr Mobility Manziels issue was the O line? C'mon
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  • jcam222J jcam222

    @texasag1969 said:

    Many of you must think our coaches are idiots for choosing between only JM and BH for the starting QB job. I mean how could they have missed the obvious choice during the whole time of daily practices, playbook study sessions, etc, Sorry but had he been in earlier in the game with the 1's against 1s the result would have been exactly the same. If you have no time due to a leaky O line against far faster players, then nothing has changed for whomever is plugged in as QB.

    so you are saying the Mr Mobility Manziels issue was the O line? C'mon

    @jcam222 said:

    so you are saying the Mr Mobility Manziels issue was the O line? C'mon

    Nothing special about JF speed at this point. If you cant even outrun DE to the corner you are not a running qb.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • jcam222J jcam222

    @texasag1969 said:

    Many of you must think our coaches are idiots for choosing between only JM and BH for the starting QB job. I mean how could they have missed the obvious choice during the whole time of daily practices, playbook study sessions, etc, Sorry but had he been in earlier in the game with the 1's against 1s the result would have been exactly the same. If you have no time due to a leaky O line against far faster players, then nothing has changed for whomever is plugged in as QB.

    so you are saying the Mr Mobility Manziels issue was the O line? C'mon

    @jcam222 said:

    so you are saying the Mr Mobility Manziels issue was the O line? C'mon

    Actually, as I have stated elsewhere, the Browns biggest problem IS the O line regardless of who starts. I think you will see that play out this year all season long unless some major deal is made to fix it. There is a serious problem on the R side of this line. At the end of the season you are welcome to come back and tell me I was wrong, but at the moment that is just what I see.

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  • T TexasAg1969

    @jcam222 said:

    so you are saying the Mr Mobility Manziels issue was the O line? C'mon

    Actually, as I have stated elsewhere, the Browns biggest problem IS the O line regardless of who starts. I think you will see that play out this year all season long unless some major deal is made to fix it. There is a serious problem on the R side of this line. At the end of the season you are welcome to come back and tell me I was wrong, but at the moment that is just what I see.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Actually, as I have stated elsewhere, the Browns biggest problem IS the O line regardless of who starts. I think you will see that play out this year all season long unless some major deal is made to fix it. There is a serious problem on the R side of this line. At the end of the season you are welcome to come back and tell me I was wrong, but at the moment that is just what I see.

    yep i seen JF throw 3 yards behing Cameron on a 7 yard cross. O-lines fault.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • T TexasAg1969

    @jcam222 said:

    so you are saying the Mr Mobility Manziels issue was the O line? C'mon

    Actually, as I have stated elsewhere, the Browns biggest problem IS the O line regardless of who starts. I think you will see that play out this year all season long unless some major deal is made to fix it. There is a serious problem on the R side of this line. At the end of the season you are welcome to come back and tell me I was wrong, but at the moment that is just what I see.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Actually, as I have stated elsewhere, the Browns biggest problem IS the O line regardless of who starts. I think you will see that play out this year all season long unless some major deal is made to fix it. There is a serious problem on the R side of this line. At the end of the season you are welcome to come back and tell me I was wrong, but at the moment that is just what I see.

    You talk about the suckage of the right side of the OL as if it's a recent development.

    Nothing new to see here. Keep moving, folks.

  • cd-you can find my posts on the inherent problem of the 2 series alternating plan elsewhere on the board. It wasn't fair to either QB. It should have been exactly the same for game 2 as game 1. One QB gets all the reps during the week with the 1's and plays only with the 1's while the other plays only with the 2s, otherwise you get the abortion we saw with BOTH QB's last night.

  • Shaw never got the real respect he should have got in college and the Browns have to play Johnny. Too much money invested. No bullshit with Shaw. He is just like he was at USC quite and studying the play book . Waiting his turn. He has proved he is quicker and more accurate than Manziel. I know it was a short preview but he is a determined winner and that is what the Browns need. If he is cut I can promise he will be picked right up and it will come back to haunt the Browns. What everybody saw last night well what else can I say.... He's Relentless............

  • B browns23

    McShay's take on Shaw while everyone is on his bandwagon 😁 (I think McShay is an idiot, but his job is to evaluate NFL talent)

    "His arm strength is adequate, not great," McShay wrote. "He's gotten better with his tempo, timing and ball placement on intermediate to longer throws, and as long as he's within 35 yards, he's pretty good. Beyond that is when his accuracy really dips, so that's something he needs to work on with his lower-body mechanics."

    @browns23 said:

    McShay's take on Shaw while everyone is on his bandwagon 😁 (I think McShay is an idiot, but his job is to evaluate NFL talent)

    "His arm strength is adequate, not great," McShay wrote. "He's gotten better with his tempo, timing and ball placement on intermediate to longer throws, and as long as he's within 35 yards, he's pretty good. Beyond that is when his accuracy really dips, so that's something he needs to work on with his lower-body mechanics."

    You can't call him an idiot yet because it was one game where he dominated. Wait a couple more preseason games, but man will it be hilarious if he somehow stole the job from both hoyer and manziel

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    Are we serious right now? Connor played the bottom of the roster, got a lot of his stats again prevent D, had a TE catch a hail Mary and had a WR make a fantastic catch on an overthrown ball.

    Yeah, he played well. But come on. Are we really going to look this desperate this quickly?

    @mld-woody said:

    Are we serious right now? Connor played the bottom of the roster, got a lot of his stats again prevent D, had a TE catch a hail Mary and had a WR make a fantastic catch on an overthrown ball.

    Yeah, he played well. But come on. Are we really going to look this desperate this quickly?

    Exactly, you can't base it off one game. This is preseason, most years i skipped preseason and always hear about one guy dominating and than getting crushed in the regular season. They'll be plenty of people who didn't watch who are going to hear the same thing this year

  • This QB Bs is really getting boring. Bring on the season and may the best man win games for us.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • We should just make a side thread for the Scar fans and Aggie fans to argue with each other

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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