Would You Trade JF?
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Bottom line is whoever starts I will support. Fuck all of you QB faggots.
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How could you possibly know you're getting a better QB? We just drafted the guy. Can we at least see if he's any good first? Ouch... my brain hurts
How could you possibly know you're getting a worse QB? We just drafted the guy. We have no clue what he's going to become.
The chances of Manziel being a successful NFL QB, at this very moment, are exactly the same as Winston's, Hundley's, Mariota's, Bortles', Bridgewater's, etc.
In the basest of rationalities, Manziel has a 50/50 chance, right now, at being a successful NFL QB. He either will be or he won't be. I would trade that in a heartbeat for the chance to get two guys with 50/50 shots at being successful.
Trading Manziel would do two things:
1) it would give us a chance to fully see what Hoyer (and maybe Shaw) are capable of
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2) it would give us a couple additional high-probability draft picks to build future positions of need
Obviously, this is a hypothetical situation and it won't happen. And I am happy with having Johnny Manziel. But, personally, I don't stop trying to improve something just because I'm happy. If there's a way to make the Browns better, it should be explored.
How could you possibly know you're getting a worse QB? We just drafted the guy. We have no clue what he's going to become.
The chances of Manziel being a successful NFL QB, at this very moment, are exactly the same as Winston's, Hundley's, Mariota's, Bortles', Bridgewater's, etc.
In the basest of rationalities, Manziel has a 50/50 chance, right now, at being a successful NFL QB. He either will be or he won't be. I would trade that in a heartbeat for the chance to get two guys with 50/50 shots at being successful.
Trading Manziel would do two things:
1) it would give us a chance to fully see what Hoyer (and maybe Shaw) are capable of
and
2) it would give us a couple additional high-probability draft picks to build future positions of need
Obviously, this is a hypothetical situation and it won't happen. And I am happy with having Johnny Manziel. But, personally, I don't stop trying to improve something just because I'm happy. If there's a way to make the Browns better, it should be explored.
And if Manziel starts doing some of the things he did in college? And you're stuck with your pants down with two 50-50 rookies that could just as easily bust.
Im not that high on Manziel, but I'd like to see him play before I'd even "hypothetically" think about moving him...
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the browns is such a dysfunctional organization.....the best thing for manziel is to get the hell out of there as soon as possible......let them keep hoyer, the home town sweet heart....the browns...mediocrity forever....!
hoyer screwed the pooch monday night and for that he gets named starter.....is pettine nuts....of course he's only the hc because no one else wanted to be associated with such a lousy team...don't blame them....
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I'm willing if you also agree to leave the board
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the browns is such a dysfunctional organization.....the best thing for manziel is to get the hell out of there as soon as possible......let them keep hoyer, the home town sweet heart....the browns...mediocrity forever....!
hoyer screwed the pooch monday night and for that he gets named starter.....is pettine nuts....of course he's only the hc because no one else wanted to be associated with such a lousy team...don't blame them....
jayjay said:
the browns is such a dysfunctional organization.....the best thing for manziel is to get the hell out of there as soon as possible......let them keep hoyer, the home town sweet heart....the browns...mediocrity forever....!
hoyer screwed the pooch monday night and for that he gets named starter.....is pettine nuts....of course he's only the hc because no one else wanted to be associated with such a lousy team...don't blame them....
So..... Aggie fan?
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the browns is such a dysfunctional organization.....the best thing for manziel is to get the hell out of there as soon as possible......let them keep hoyer, the home town sweet heart....the browns...mediocrity forever....!
hoyer screwed the pooch monday night and for that he gets named starter.....is pettine nuts....of course he's only the hc because no one else wanted to be associated with such a lousy team...don't blame them....
jayjay said:
the browns is such a dysfunctional organization.....the best thing for manziel is to get the hell out of there as soon as possible......let them keep hoyer, the home town sweet heart....the browns...mediocrity forever....!
hoyer screwed the pooch monday night and for that he gets named starter.....is pettine nuts....of course he's only the hc because no one else wanted to be associated with such a lousy team...don't blame them....
Go away gay boy, you're not welcome here.
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the browns is such a dysfunctional organization.....the best thing for manziel is to get the hell out of there as soon as possible......let them keep hoyer, the home town sweet heart....the browns...mediocrity forever....!
hoyer screwed the pooch monday night and for that he gets named starter.....is pettine nuts....of course he's only the hc because no one else wanted to be associated with such a lousy team...don't blame them....
jayjay said:
the browns is such a dysfunctional organization.....the best thing for manziel is to get the hell out of there as soon as possible......let them keep hoyer, the home town sweet heart....the browns...mediocrity forever....!
hoyer screwed the pooch monday night and for that he gets named starter.....is pettine nuts....of course he's only the hc because no one else wanted to be associated with such a lousy team...don't blame them....
I know, man! Goddam, I can't believe they named Hoyer the starter! He looked like shit Monday night and then
Johnny came out and lit it up and showed everyone why he should be the starter and...uh...
Oh.
Never mind.
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What an idiot. Abandon ship!
After not one, two preseason games. We should just restart. Fire Pettine and Farmer!
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I think you forgot the "Va" in front of your name.
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jayjay said:
the browns is such a dysfunctional organization.....the best thing for manziel is to get the hell out of there as soon as possible......let them keep hoyer, the home town sweet heart....the browns...mediocrity forever....!
hoyer screwed the pooch monday night and for that he gets named starter.....is pettine nuts....of course he's only the hc because no one else wanted to be associated with such a lousy team...don't blame them....
I know, man! Goddam, I can't believe they named Hoyer the starter! He looked like shit Monday night and then
Johnny came out and lit it up and showed everyone why he should be the starter and...uh...
Oh.
Never mind.
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I would! Please trade me!
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please trade manziel...preferably to the cowboys....please....he doesn't deserve to play for such a dysfunctional franchise.....let the browns keep their home town homey hoyer......i'm sure they'll do great...laugh laugh....!!
just trade manziel, please.....pettine's an idiot and shanahan's not a lot better....there's a reason he flamed out in dc....
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the browns is such a dysfunctional organization.....the best thing for manziel is to get the hell out of there as soon as possible......let them keep hoyer, the home town sweet heart....the browns...mediocrity forever....!
hoyer screwed the pooch monday night and for that he gets named starter.....is pettine nuts....of course he's only the hc because no one else wanted to be associated with such a lousy team...don't blame them....
jayjay said:
the browns is such a dysfunctional organization.....the best thing for manziel is to get the hell out of there as soon as possible......let them keep hoyer, the home town sweet heart....the browns...mediocrity forever....!
hoyer screwed the pooch monday night and for that he gets named starter.....is pettine nuts....of course he's only the hc because no one else wanted to be associated with such a lousy team...don't blame them....
Yeah, and JFF didn't look much better in the first half when he had his shot playing with the first team. Hmmmm.... He doesn't look quite so elusive, now that he's playing in the Big Boy league.
I would! Please trade me!
Oh, Johnny, it was just a matter of time until you showed up for real. We've heard you like to hang out on A&M Boards. We're so honored to have you as a distinguished member here.
jayjay said:
please trade manziel...preferably to the cowboys....please....he doesn't deserve to play for such a dysfunctional franchise.....let the browns keep their home town homey hoyer......i'm sure they'll do great...laugh laugh....!!
just trade manziel, please.....pettine's an idiot and shanahan's not a lot better....there's a reason he flamed out in dc....
Maybe he can flip us off on the way out of town. Want some objective third party opinion on Johnny Football?
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jayjay said:
the browns is such a dysfunctional organization.....the best thing for manziel is to get the hell out of there as soon as possible......let them keep hoyer, the home town sweet heart....the browns...mediocrity forever....!
hoyer screwed the pooch monday night and for that he gets named starter.....is pettine nuts....of course he's only the hc because no one else wanted to be associated with such a lousy team...don't blame them....
Yeah, and JFF didn't look much better in the first half when he had his shot playing with the first team. Hmmmm.... He doesn't look quite so elusive, now that he's playing in the Big Boy league.
I would! Please trade me!
Oh, Johnny, it was just a matter of time until you showed up for real. We've heard you like to hang out on A&M Boards. We're so honored to have you as a distinguished member here.
jayjay said:
please trade manziel...preferably to the cowboys....please....he doesn't deserve to play for such a dysfunctional franchise.....let the browns keep their home town homey hoyer......i'm sure they'll do great...laugh laugh....!!
just trade manziel, please.....pettine's an idiot and shanahan's not a lot better....there's a reason he flamed out in dc....
Maybe he can flip us off on the way out of town. Want some objective third party opinion on Johnny Football?
Yeah, and JFF didn't look much better in the first half when he had his shot playing with the first team. Hmmmm.... He doesn't look quite so elusive, now that he's playing in the Big Boy league.
Oh, Johnny, it was just a matter of time until you showed up for real. We've heard you like to hang out on A&M Boards. We're so honored to have you as a distinguished member here.
Maybe he can flip us off on the way out of town. Want some objective third party opinion on Johnny Football?
Yeah, I have some extra time now... so what? Why do you expect Hoyer to be any perform any better than me? He can't play any better and I can't get any worse and still my stats were more impressive. By the way, no one will be watching our games anymore. Nice job coach!
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I think you forgot the "Va" in front of your name.
Nominated and seconded... Mod's now need to make it happen.
Yeah, I have some extra time now... so what? Why do you expect Hoyer to be any perform any better than me? He can't play any better and I can't get any worse and still my stats were more impressive. By the way, no one will be watching our games anymore. Nice job coach!
Stats? LOL... Make a read and call me in the morning....
Hoyer has played better...
He will again...
... and Browns fans will be watching.
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jesus Christ, all this preseason has confirmed is that we need to sit Manziel for awhile...not trade him. Jessus titty fucking christ
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"Johnny Manziel is struggling -- and continues to struggle -- with the Browns' playbook.
We all got a glimpse of it when Manziel was asked by Jon Gruden in a sit-down interview during Monday night's telecast to spit out a play from OC Kyle Shanahan's playbook. He stumbled over his words before eventually getting it out. It's to be expected from a rookie like Manziel, who is coming from a spread offense with simple, one-, two-, or three-word plays. Receiver Andrew Hawkins admitted the players in the huddle "are still helping him a little bit." Manziel can focus on the playbook as Brian Hoyer's backup. It's going to take time."Really?What held him back? -
I would trade this lazy a@@, entitled, Vegas, coke sniffing, spoiled, short, i won't change who i am for anyone, rich kid from Texas in a heartbeat.
We might be lucky to get a 6th rounder today.
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