Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Ok, the whole badass comment l made, that was kinda stupid of me.
A few beers, l got a little worked up, and it somehow struck a chord with my inner 13 year old.
I deserve all the shit l'm given for it.
A few beers, l got a little worked up, and it somehow struck a chord with my inner 13 year old.
I deserve all the shit l'm given for it.
Do they make breathalyzers for PCs?
Lol welcome to the " I made a dumbass knee jerk post club". Virtually every member of the board belongs to it. Welcome
Now there's a T-shirt idea...
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This thread is a perfect example of the double standard. It's preseason. And it's football, not knitting class. There plenty of "fuck you's" flying around at any given moment on a football field, whether verbal or hand gesture, it's the same thing. In fact, it's no different than the "fucks" and "shits" that get bleeped out of most of today's pop music and daytime TV, or when you can clearly lip read the vulgarity that comes out of a lot of these "professionals" mouths. It doesn't really matter how it's communicated, a "fuck you" is a "fuck you", but what the real issue is here, is WHO it is coming from. When rules only apply to certain people, that is a double standard. Anyone else can get away with this without a peep from the media. The ONLY reason this is an issue, is because the networks KNOW that anything they put out on the air about JF will be watched by millions, so they find ANY reason to create DRAMA, because most of their viewers subconciously want to watch soap operas with their wives. Society has turned into a bunch of nancies, and the double standard is EXACTLY what is wrong with this country today. Personally, I like his brand of football and fiery competitiveness. If I wanted to watch a "classy" sport, I'd watch golf or tennis. Acting like football is this safe-haven for choir boys is ridiculous. And spare me the whole shtick about "he should know better" and "this proves he isn't ready". Yes, he should know better than to give the media any more ammo, but let's face it, if this were not covered by the media as a storyline, NOBODY would give a shit. It's not that people care that it happened, it's that it came from Johnny, AND it's that Browns fans are tired of being the punchline in an ongoing joke, and then you have the haters out there.
Before passing judgement on someone, look in the mirror and ask yourself if you have ever done the same before being a hypocrite and condemning this type of behavior. Not saying it is right, there is a time and place for it, but I wasn't offended by it either. I know none of you have been in JF's situation, but this is what I am talking about with the double standard. We all can sit on our internet soapbox and scold people from afar, anonymously, and act like we are sooo much better than that, but we all know that the truth is, it's mostly just jealousy. And low self-esteem. If you are embarrassed because a kid threw the bird at someone else, it's probably because your life is so lame that you have to live vicariously through a football team and when a player from your favorite team acts a certain way, it somehow reflects bad on you so you have to tear the kid down in self-preservation. THAT is LAME! I have been a fan of a losing team, but NEVER turned on the players, and NEVER felt inferior because my favorite football team wasn't winning, or when they did things that were totally classless. I know who I am, and don't need a football team to dictate my identity or validate my character as a man.For those of you saying no other QBs use that word in a football game, here are a few other prominent QB's that were listed above, giving a few fucks. It's not the bird, but the actual word that the gesture represents, which is just as bad if not worse. It's football, and if you are offended by that type of language or behavior, try a different sport. I hear ballet and figure skating needs a few fans.
Tom Brady gives a Fuck
Payton Manning gives a Fuck
Andrew Luck gives a Fuck
" rel="external nofollow">I know who I am, and don't need a football team to dictate my identity or validate my character as a man.
Yup... why would you need a football team when you have Johnny Fucking Football to validate your manhood...
Plenty of pro's have done this over the years and they have also received the same criticism..... This isnt some double standard created by intense media scrutiny, this was freaking Monday Night Football....in front of millions of people and cameras.....and he KNOWS they are watching, yet still acts the fool....
If I was at the biggest interview / audition of my life....and the whole world was watching.....and it was being televised world wide.....and my bosses and coaches and fans were all watching every step(and I knew it).......then I wouldnt do something stupid like that.....
Bottom line........immature is immature and quality stands up to scrutiny..(no matter how intense)
Really well put... really, really well put...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I know who I am, and don't need a football team to dictate my identity or validate my character as a man.
Yup... why would you need a football team when you have Johnny Fucking Football to validate your manhood...
Plenty of pro's have done this over the years and they have also received the same criticism..... This isnt some double standard created by intense media scrutiny, this was freaking Monday Night Football....in front of millions of people and cameras.....and he KNOWS they are watching, yet still acts the fool....
If I was at the biggest interview / audition of my life....and the whole world was watching.....and it was being televised world wide.....and my bosses and coaches and fans were all watching every step(and I knew it).......then I wouldnt do something stupid like that.....
Bottom line........immature is immature and quality stands up to scrutiny..(no matter how intense)
Really well put... really, really well put...
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I'm not sure how to post a picture but I downloaded one from Facebook featuring my boy number 17 the great Brian Sipe flipping some asshole the bird.
Hopefully it was a Shittsburgh Squeeler or one of their dipshit fans.
WSS
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How can we be seen as a great fanbase if this is how much patience we have? Its almost as if were so hateful and shortsighted we put an extra layer of pressure on our QBs. Two fucking preseason games and our 21 year old QB is a wasted pick? This is like a new level of embarrassing.
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I have a feeling they love all the attention their getting because lets be honest, in the past years how many times did you hear about the browns on sports center. Now they have a player with top selling jersey and makin bank!! Love the manziel attention. Not the player
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I think this organzation regrets coming back to Cleveland.
I think this organzation regrets coming back to Cleveland.
Well, JFF, I'd suggest you learn some history about the Browns fanbase- because you were only 2 years old when Traitor Art pulled the rug out from under us. There was picketing of NFL headquarters, FAX machines and phone lines got jammed.
Our Name, our Team, our Colors. Never happened before.
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I think Pettine would rather have not had the distractions, but who could have been taken in the 1st round, competed and not have created the bulk of the current mess?
I do not think any of the Browns' brain trust are to the regret stage yet... but many have "found religion"... praying Hoyer does well enough for them to bring JM along. Just as they'd hoped all along.
I love seeing a word for the first time here...
LOL!
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verb
verb: recant; 3rd person present: recants; past tense: recanted; past participle: recanted; gerund or present participle: recanting
say that one no longer holds an opinion or belief, especially one considered heretical.
"heretics were burned if they would not recant"
I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa Magna Cum Laude Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texian vocabulary.
I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa, Magna Cum Laude, Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texan vocabulary.
There I fixed that for your wife. It might not be perfect (could put a comma after grad but that might be an Oxford comma situation and I'm not even going to touch the capitalization) but a major upgrade on your original work.
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LOL!
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ri藞kant/
verb
verb: recant; 3rd person present: recants; past tense: recanted; past participle: recanted; gerund or present participle: recanting
say that one no longer holds an opinion or belief, especially one considered heretical.
"heretics were burned if they would not recant"
I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa Magna Cum Laude Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texian vocabulary.
I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa, Magna Cum Laude, Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texan vocabulary.
There I fixed that for your wife. It might not be perfect (could put a comma after grad but that might be an Oxford comma situation and I'm not even going to touch the capitalization) but a major upgrade on your original work.
I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa, Magna Cum Laude, Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texan vocabulary.
There I fixed that for your wife. It might not be perfect (could put a comma after grad but that might be an Oxford comma situation and I'm not even going to touch the capitalization) but a major upgrade on your original work.
I think a few of you are most welcome here.
We don't mind opposing opinions- but please- Hoyer sucks, Manziel great, gets old around here, real fast- especially if that's the best you got. -
I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa, Magna Cum Laude, Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texan vocabulary.
There I fixed that for your wife. It might not be perfect (could put a comma after grad but that might be an Oxford comma situation and I'm not even going to touch the capitalization) but a major upgrade on your original work.
I think a few of you are most welcome here.
We don't mind opposing opinions- but please- Hoyer sucks, Manziel great, gets old around here, real fast- especially if that's the best you got. -
WSS
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I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa, Magna Cum Laude, Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texan vocabulary.
There I fixed that for your wife. It might not be perfect (could put a comma after grad but that might be an Oxford comma situation and I'm not even going to touch the capitalization) but a major upgrade on your original work.
I think a few of you are most welcome here.
We don't mind opposing opinions- but please- Hoyer sucks, Manziel great, gets old around here, real fast- especially if that's the best you got. -
Flipping a guy off in the middle of a game is no biggie, IMO, but the way JFF did it was not at all "badass." You want to give someone the "f" you, at least face them. It was a punk, pussy move to do it while jogging away from them with your back turned. This guy is all overblown hype. I'm sorry. If he had been named the starter, I would have supported him and respected his game play, but I don't think he has earned an ounce of respect either on or off the field. Frankly, I have no interest in watching him attempt to grow up because I see him being a long way from anywhere near grown. Maybe because I'm older and now know that I didn't even realize how much I didn't know when I was 21, but I have no patience for his persona. Act like a grown up, you will be treated like one. If you are not ready to be a grown up, good, go for it, be young and foolish while you can, but do it elsewhere.
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That's Gardocki!
And, yes, it was the Steelers ... And then he went and played for them.
Z
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Well shit!
WSS
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Well shit!
WSS
Well shit!
WSS
Flipped off Bill Cowher after Joey Porter took him out after a punt.
Later played for Cowher when they won the SB.
But I'm sure Brian Sipe would have no problem giving the collective Steeler organization the bird.
Z
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don't cry for me argentina.
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I think this organzation regrets coming back to Cleveland.
I think this organzation regrets coming back to Cleveland.
This organization? Which organization is that?
If you mean the Cleveland Browns franchise, it never went anywhere, so it had no where to come back from.
Or are you talking about the Jimmy Haslam ownership organization? Or the Ray Farmer organization.
Where do you think anyone went to come back from?
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I think this organzation regrets coming back to Cleveland.
This organization? Which organization is that?
If you mean the Cleveland Browns franchise, it never went anywhere, so it had no where to come back from.
Or are you talking about the Jimmy Haslam ownership organization? Or the Ray Farmer organization.
Where do you think anyone went to come back from?
This organization? Which organization is that?
If you mean the Cleveland Browns franchise, it never went anywhere, so it had no where to come back from.
Or are you talking about the Jimmy Haslam ownership organization? Or the Ray Farmer organization.
Where do you think anyone went to come back from?
The organization did leave, however.
The franchise stayed. But the organization, or:
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left.As far as I can remember, the franchise that resumed was comprised of all new individuals, save for a select few that may have stayed.I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
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How can we be seen as a great fanbase if this is how much patience we have? Its almost as if were so hateful and shortsighted we put an extra layer of pressure on our QBs. Two fucking preseason games and our 21 year old QB is a wasted pick? This is like a new level of embarrassing.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
How can we be seen as a great fanbase if this is how much patience we have? Its almost as if were so hateful and shortsighted we put an extra layer of pressure on our QBs. Two fucking preseason games and our 21 year old QB is a wasted pick? This is like a new level of embarrassing.
How bout if this 21 year old knucklehead grows up and learn to lead.
From draft day to this past weekend, all he's done is create pressure on himself.
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