Jonathan Paul Manziel

choco

@tour2ma said:
Really well put... really, really well put...

A breath of fresh air after just reading this thread the entire way through.

I'm beside myself by how some people actually think.

Westside Steve

I'm not sure how to post a picture but I downloaded one from Facebook featuring my boy number 17 the great Brian Sipe flipping some asshole the bird.

Hopefully it was a Shittsburgh Squeeler or one of their dipshit fans.

WSS

Flyin J

How can we be seen as a great fanbase if this is how much patience we have? Its almost as if were so hateful and shortsighted we put an extra layer of pressure on our QBs. Two fucking preseason games and our 21 year old QB is a wasted pick? This is like a new level of embarrassing.

BradyBunchBust

I have a feeling they love all the attention their getting because lets be honest, in the past years how many times did you hear about the browns on sports center. Now they have a player with top selling jersey and makin bank!! Love the manziel attention. Not the player

hoorta

@johnny-football said:
I think this organzation regrets coming back to Cleveland.

Well, JFF, I'd suggest you learn some history about the Browns fanbase- because you were only 2 years old when Traitor Art pulled the rug out from under us. There was picketing of NFL headquarters, FAX machines and phone lines got jammed.

Our Name, our Team, our Colors. Never happened before.

Taco918

@texasag1969 said:

LOL!

re·cant

riˈkant/

verb

verb: recant; 3rd person present: recants; past tense: recanted; past participle: recanted; gerund or present participle: recanting

say that one no longer holds an opinion or belief, especially one considered heretical.

"heretics were burned if they would not recant"

I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa Magna Cum Laude Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texian vocabulary.

I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa, Magna Cum Laude, Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texan vocabulary.

There I fixed that for your wife. It might not be perfect (could put a comma after grad but that might be an Oxford comma situation and I'm not even going to touch the capitalization) but a major upgrade on your original work.

hoorta

@taco918 said:

I'll bring the matches! Got that from 45 years with my Phi Beta Kappa, Magna Cum Laude, Cornelll Grad wife. Life long English teacher-hell on a little bitty ole Texan vocabulary.

There I fixed that for your wife. It might not be perfect (could put a comma after grad but that might be an Oxford comma situation and I'm not even going to touch the capitalization) but a major upgrade on your original work.

I think a few of you are most welcome here. We don't mind opposing opinions- but please- Hoyer sucks, Manziel great, gets old around here, real fast- especially if that's the best you got.

Taco918

@hoorta said:

I think a few of you are most welcome here. We don't mind opposing opinions- but please- Hoyer sucks, Manziel great, gets old around here, real fast- especially if that's the best you got.

Hoorta it breaks my heart you lumping me in with the newer Browns fans here.

Westside Steve

WSS

Westside Steve

@hoorta said:
I think a few of you are most welcome here. We don't mind opposing opinions- but please- Hoyer sucks, Manziel great, gets old around here, real fast- especially if that's the best you got.

So does the opposite.

WSS

HoundDawg

Flipping a guy off in the middle of a game is no biggie, IMO, but the way JFF did it was not at all "badass." You want to give someone the "f" you, at least face them. It was a punk, pussy move to do it while jogging away from them with your back turned. This guy is all overblown hype. I'm sorry. If he had been named the starter, I would have supported him and respected his game play, but I don't think he has earned an ounce of respect either on or off the field. Frankly, I have no interest in watching him attempt to grow up because I see him being a long way from anywhere near grown. Maybe because I'm older and now know that I didn't even realize how much I didn't know when I was 21, but I have no patience for his persona. Act like a grown up, you will be treated like one. If you are not ready to be a grown up, good, go for it, be young and foolish while you can, but do it elsewhere.

Zombo

@westside-steve said:

WSS

That's Gardocki!

And, yes, it was the Steelers ... And then he went and played for them.

Z

Westside Steve

Well shit!

WSS

Zombo

@westside-steve said:

Well shit!

WSS

Flipped off Bill Cowher after Joey Porter took him out after a punt.

Later played for Cowher when they won the SB.

But I'm sure Brian Sipe would have no problem giving the collective Steeler organization the bird.

Z

miktoxic

don't cry for me argentina.

The Gipper

@johnny-football said:
I think this organzation regrets coming back to Cleveland.

This organization? Which organization is that?

If you mean the Cleveland Browns franchise, it never went anywhere, so it had no where to come back from.

Or are you talking about the Jimmy Haslam ownership organization? Or the Ray Farmer organization.

Where do you think anyone went to come back from?

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@the-gipper said:

This organization? Which organization is that?

If you mean the Cleveland Browns franchise, it never went anywhere, so it had no where to come back from.

Or are you talking about the Jimmy Haslam ownership organization? Or the Ray Farmer organization.

Where do you think anyone went to come back from?

The organization did leave, however.

The franchise stayed. But the organization, or:

or·gan·i·za·tion

ˌôrgəniˈzāSHən/

noun

1.

an organized body of people with a particular purpose, especially a business, society, association, etc.

left.

As far as I can remember, the franchise that resumed was comprised of all new individuals, save for a select few that may have stayed.

MasterDog

XxDaBuckeyexX said:
How can we be seen as a great fanbase if this is how much patience we have? Its almost as if were so hateful and shortsighted we put an extra layer of pressure on our QBs. Two fucking preseason games and our 21 year old QB is a wasted pick? This is like a new level of embarrassing.

How bout if this 21 year old knucklehead grows up and learn to lead.

From draft day to this past weekend, all he's done is create pressure on himself.

Mudfly

@johnny-football said:
I think this organzation regrets coming back to Cleveland.

This organization regrets nothing, as they are still in their first year and haven't even played their first game yet......

In just a few months, they have completely restructured the team, scored some solid FA's and killed it in their first draft.....

What's to regret???

The Gipper

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

The organization did leave, however.

The franchise stayed. But the organization, or:

left.

As far as I can remember, the franchise that resumed was comprised of all new individuals, save for a select few that may have stayed.

Well, any two people that hang out together can fit that definition of organization. (e.g. the Blount/Bell Organized crime syndicate?) And even if it was an "organization" that left.....when did that organization come back as the OP stated?