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Like I said, Russia is going into E. Ukraine now

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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    big serious trouble. And isis is on the rampage.

    And this liberal phony president can't make decisions, won't make decisions,

    and keeps going on vacations.

    Obamao is a dirtbag, and holder is dirtier.

    But many libs still want to talk about soccer, or bush........

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_UKRAINE_WEAPONS_CROSSROADS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-08-25-15-47-16

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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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        No, really, not a game, darnit.

        http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-says-detained-russian-soldiers-were-special-mission-125252571.html

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          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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          like I said,,,,,,,,,,,

          WHO CARES?????????????

          let them kill each other.

          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            I understand about "why should we care" ...

            but if you read up on WWI and WWII....

            not caring only leads up to a point where you have no choice

            but to care.

            But, then it's way late, and the price to pay to solve a gigantic problem

            is gigantic.

            Small price when the problem is smaller is just my preference.

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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              More serious, just a start. Other countries next, you watch, in the next two years

              of the community organizer of cowardice and stupidity in our WH.

              http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-sargent-now-war-russia-184509355.html

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                http://www.ibtimes.com/ukraine-accuses-russia-invading-country-while-putin-adviser-says-russias-action-amounts-1672060

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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                  Declares Eastern Ukraine 'New Russia'...

                  Eyes Arctic...

                  Finland's Fighter Jets on Alert After Breaches...

                  Poland forces Russian Defence Minister plane to turn back...

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                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    Russia may indeed be planning something crazy. Lets hope not.

                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                        Denying that the russians wouldn't be so stupid as to invade the Ukraine...

                        was dumb. With America out of the way because of corrupt sumbeeches in our

                        WH....

                        bad things are looking like some other countries are going to make

                        bad moves while they finally can.

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                          htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                          Too many irons in the fire. WWIII will break out the minute we arrive.

                          β€œIt is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                            I understand about "why should we care" ...

                            but if you read up on WWI and WWII....

                            not caring only leads up to a point where you have no choice

                            but to care.

                            But, then it's way late, and the price to pay to solve a gigantic problem

                            is gigantic.

                            Small price when the problem is smaller is just my preference.

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                            Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            I understand about "why should we care" ...

                            but if you read up on WWI and WWII....

                            not caring only leads up to a point where you have no choice

                            but to care.

                            But, then it's way late, and the price to pay to solve a gigantic problem

                            is gigantic.

                            Small price when the problem is smaller is just my preference.

                            Didn't we not care in those 2 wars?

                            and then we did care and we WON those 2 wars?

                            Why bother until it is OUR problem?

                            "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                              Yes, we cared, but we didn't care to enjoin the war until way, way late

                              in the development of the scale of the war.

                              By then many tens of thousands of Americans died, because the war was allowed

                              to have gotten so out of control, that wouldn't have had to, perhaps?, if we had

                              gone after a solution when the problem was far smaller.

                              There's an excellent WW museum in Branson, Mo. One room names all those who we

                              know, died in WWII. It's a long room, and most every inch of three walls is filled, and the font

                              size was not big. That's a place you wouldn't want to miss if you are ever there.

                              My point is, "staying out of it til it's really, really our business and we are forced into finally getting involved" makes for a compounded

                              devastatinig cost.

                              here's a good estimate from some guy named Carl when I looked it up:

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                              WWI: (easy, all units wer in France) Battle deaths 53,402
                              WWII: nasty
                              β–ΊThe overall Europe-Atlantic theater cost 182,070 dead. Army ground forces 141,526; United States Army Air Forces 34,505 and Navy/Coast Guard 6,039. This incluses losses at sea in the Atlantic, airbattles over all of Europe and troops lost in Africa & Italy.
                              The invasion of southern France's american battle casualties is slightly over 2,000 killed, captured, or missing.
                              Normandy losses are estimated at 1465 dead, 3184 wounded, 1928 missing and 26 captured. Of the total US figure, 2499 casualties were from the US airborne troops (238 of them being deaths). The casualties at Utah Beach were relatively light: 197, including 60 missing. However, the US 1st and 29th Divisions together suffered around 2000 casualties at Omaha Beach.
                              Unfortunately, the casualty lists between the normandy invasion and the Battle of the Ardennes (19,276 dead, 23,218 captured or missing, 47,493 wounded) are incomplete.

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                                W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                Again, who cares? If the people in eastern Ukraine want to be Russian fine.

                                WSS

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                                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                  WW1 was pretty much a stalemate. Without Russia in WW2 we would have lost.

                                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                    Posted Today, 07:01 PM

                                    Again, who cares? If the people in eastern Ukraine want to be Russian fine.

                                    WSS
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                                    Well, Steve, that's the flip side. All those people don't, the large russian population does.
                                    But there's all those other countries. Say, there's plenty of russian immigrants in our country too......
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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                      and plenty of those in former "owned by the soviets" countries:

                                      http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/140304/former-soviet-satellites-shocked-russias-ukraine-moves

                                      Russia is not stopping with Ukraine.

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                                        Posted Today, 07:01 PM

                                        Again, who cares? If the people in eastern Ukraine want to be Russian fine.

                                        WSS
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                                        Well, Steve, that's the flip side. All those people don't, the large russian population does.
                                        But there's all those other countries. Say, there's plenty of russian immigrants in our country too......
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                                        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        Posted Today, 07:01 PM

                                        Again, who cares? If the people in eastern Ukraine want to be Russian fine.

                                        WSS

                                        ****************************

                                        Well, Steve, that's the flip side. All those people don't, the large russian population does.

                                        But there's all those other countries. Say, there's plenty of russian immigrants in our country too......

                                        yes there are. I'm sure all the Hispanics, or many of them, would like Texas and New Mexico to be part of Old Mexico.

                                        WSS

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                                          S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                                          I know you always want to throw the blame at the president(and there is plenty he deserves), but he is walking a very fine line atm trying to prevent WW3. We need to have NATO and other EU countries, that up till the point where there was to much evidence to deny that Russia was involved with Ukrainian conflict, that didn't want to get involved start doing something. Pressure from the US alone does nothing but ratchet up the tension in the area... and unfortunately we need Russia's help to go after ISIS. Syria would see any attack by the US in Syria territory as an act of war, going to war with Syria could mean going to war with Iran and Russia, and without going into Syria ISIS will never be eradicated.

                                          If a major war does break out, Putin has already threatened that "Russia is the most powerful nuclear country", which could be seen as either a deterrent for the west to not get involved or a threat that he is willing to launch.

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