Like I said, Russia is going into E. Ukraine now
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big serious trouble. And isis is on the rampage.
And this liberal phony president can't make decisions, won't make decisions,
and keeps going on vacations.
Obamao is a dirtbag, and holder is dirtier.
But many libs still want to talk about soccer, or bush........
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No, really, not a game, darnit.
http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-says-detained-russian-soldiers-were-special-mission-125252571.html
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like I said,,,,,,,,,,,
WHO CARES?????????????
let them kill each other.
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I understand about "why should we care" ...
but if you read up on WWI and WWII....
not caring only leads up to a point where you have no choice
but to care.
But, then it's way late, and the price to pay to solve a gigantic problem
is gigantic.
Small price when the problem is smaller is just my preference.
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More serious, just a start. Other countries next, you watch, in the next two years
of the community organizer of cowardice and stupidity in our WH.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-sargent-now-war-russia-184509355.html
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Russia may indeed be planning something crazy. Lets hope not.
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Denying that the russians wouldn't be so stupid as to invade the Ukraine...
was dumb. With America out of the way because of corrupt sumbeeches in our
WH....
bad things are looking like some other countries are going to make
bad moves while they finally can.
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Too many irons in the fire. WWIII will break out the minute we arrive.
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I understand about "why should we care" ...
but if you read up on WWI and WWII....
not caring only leads up to a point where you have no choice
but to care.
But, then it's way late, and the price to pay to solve a gigantic problem
is gigantic.
Small price when the problem is smaller is just my preference.
I understand about "why should we care" ...
but if you read up on WWI and WWII....
not caring only leads up to a point where you have no choice
but to care.
But, then it's way late, and the price to pay to solve a gigantic problem
is gigantic.
Small price when the problem is smaller is just my preference.
Didn't we not care in those 2 wars?
and then we did care and we WON those 2 wars?
Why bother until it is OUR problem?
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Yes, we cared, but we didn't care to enjoin the war until way, way late
in the development of the scale of the war.
By then many tens of thousands of Americans died, because the war was allowed
to have gotten so out of control, that wouldn't have had to, perhaps?, if we had
gone after a solution when the problem was far smaller.
There's an excellent WW museum in Branson, Mo. One room names all those who we
know, died in WWII. It's a long room, and most every inch of three walls is filled, and the font
size was not big. That's a place you wouldn't want to miss if you are ever there.
My point is, "staying out of it til it's really, really our business and we are forced into finally getting involved" makes for a compounded
devastatinig cost.
here's a good estimate from some guy named Carl when I looked it up:
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WWI: (easy, all units wer in France) Battle deaths 53,402
WWII: nasty
βΊThe overall Europe-Atlantic theater cost 182,070 dead. Army ground forces 141,526; United States Army Air Forces 34,505 and Navy/Coast Guard 6,039. This incluses losses at sea in the Atlantic, airbattles over all of Europe and troops lost in Africa & Italy.
The invasion of southern France's american battle casualties is slightly over 2,000 killed, captured, or missing.
Normandy losses are estimated at 1465 dead, 3184 wounded, 1928 missing and 26 captured. Of the total US figure, 2499 casualties were from the US airborne troops (238 of them being deaths). The casualties at Utah Beach were relatively light: 197, including 60 missing. However, the US 1st and 29th Divisions together suffered around 2000 casualties at Omaha Beach.
Unfortunately, the casualty lists between the normandy invasion and the Battle of the Ardennes (19,276 dead, 23,218 captured or missing, 47,493 wounded) are incomplete. -
Again, who cares? If the people in eastern Ukraine want to be Russian fine.
WSS
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WW1 was pretty much a stalemate. Without Russia in WW2 we would have lost.
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Posted Today, 07:01 PM
Again, who cares? If the people in eastern Ukraine want to be Russian fine.
WSS****************************Well, Steve, that's the flip side. All those people don't, the large russian population does.But there's all those other countries. Say, there's plenty of russian immigrants in our country too...... -
and plenty of those in former "owned by the soviets" countries:
Russia is not stopping with Ukraine.
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Posted Today, 07:01 PM
Again, who cares? If the people in eastern Ukraine want to be Russian fine.
WSS****************************Well, Steve, that's the flip side. All those people don't, the large russian population does.But there's all those other countries. Say, there's plenty of russian immigrants in our country too......
yes there are. I'm sure all the Hispanics, or many of them, would like Texas and New Mexico to be part of Old Mexico.Posted Today, 07:01 PM
Again, who cares? If the people in eastern Ukraine want to be Russian fine.
WSS
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Well, Steve, that's the flip side. All those people don't, the large russian population does.
But there's all those other countries. Say, there's plenty of russian immigrants in our country too......
WSS
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I know you always want to throw the blame at the president(and there is plenty he deserves), but he is walking a very fine line atm trying to prevent WW3. We need to have NATO and other EU countries, that up till the point where there was to much evidence to deny that Russia was involved with Ukrainian conflict, that didn't want to get involved start doing something. Pressure from the US alone does nothing but ratchet up the tension in the area... and unfortunately we need Russia's help to go after ISIS. Syria would see any attack by the US in Syria territory as an act of war, going to war with Syria could mean going to war with Iran and Russia, and without going into Syria ISIS will never be eradicated.
If a major war does break out, Putin has already threatened that "Russia is the most powerful nuclear country", which could be seen as either a deterrent for the west to not get involved or a threat that he is willing to launch.
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