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Watkins was a no brainer.

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  • @walterwhite said:

    With Gordon's career up in a cloud of smoke, we didn't address the receiver position and should have just drafted Sammy Watkins.

    I just hope this isn't another trade down like passing on Julio Jones for average players.

    We are literally fucked.

    If you had it your way, the cleveland browns would be an all-white team

    @adoug319 said:

    If you had it your way, the cleveland browns would be an all-white team

    HA!

    didn't walter get bounced off of games of thrones for being a one-eyed giant dolt?

  • Zombo said:

    Has Watkins caught a pass yet?

    No.

    Just like Brian Hoyer hasnt lost a game yet.

    And Mike Pettine hasnt coached a game yet.

    BUT BOY ARE WE EVER FUCKING UP ... BLOW UP THE WHOLE THING!

    Z

    Yep. Don't ya just love the doom & gloom?

    Note to Walter.....That #1 WR led us to FOUR wins last year. One player does NOT make a TEAM! OH, (psst, the draft is over).

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    Yep. Don't ya just love the doom & gloom?

    Note to Walter.....That #1 WR led us to FOUR wins last year. One player does NOT make a TEAM! OH, (psst, the draft is over).

    Mike

    Case closed...

    I hate the we should have drafted so and so. So what?!?! Makes no difference now. Go root for the bills if you love him so much.

  • @adoug319 said:

    If you had it your way, the cleveland browns would be an all-white team

    HA!

    didn't walter get bounced off of games of thrones for being a one-eyed giant dolt?

    @miktoxic said:

    HA!

    didn't walter get bounced off of games of thrones for being a one-eyed giant dolt?

    Huh?

  • @adoug319 said:

    If you had it your way, the cleveland browns would be an all-white team

    HA!

    didn't walter get bounced off of games of thrones for being a one-eyed giant dolt?

    @miktoxic said:

    HA!

    didn't walter get bounced off of games of thrones for being a one-eyed giant dolt?

    Nah he's just an uneducated bigot against people like us

    @walterwhite said:

    A majority of black people are savages. It's not rocket science

  • @miktoxic said:

    HA!

    didn't walter get bounced off of games of thrones for being a one-eyed giant dolt?

    Nah he's just an uneducated bigot against people like us

    @walterwhite said:

    A majority of black people are savages. It's not rocket science

    @adoug319 said:

    Nah he's just an uneducated bigot against people like us

    You ignorant dope, I write the most ballistic satire in the Political Discussion to troll MLD Woody.

    For god sakes read half the stuff I post over there, you absolute buffoon who can't detect sarcasm or satire.

    Get a life you baby.

  • I agree with Tia about the Browns offense becoming run dominate. A lot of AFC north defensive coachs took a deep breath when an already simplistic defensive scheme against the browns became a slam dunk after the JR suspension. A starting wr line up of Austin and Burleson with still no consistent qb play leaves Browns with not much else for the d coaches to be concerned with. Ball control, a rested defense and consistent scoring from Cundiff may be a scheme that pays off.

  • @adoug319 said:

    Nah he's just an uneducated bigot against people like us

    You ignorant dope, I write the most ballistic satire in the Political Discussion to troll MLD Woody.

    For god sakes read half the stuff I post over there, you absolute buffoon who can't detect sarcasm or satire.

    Get a life you baby.

    @walterwhite said:

    You ignorant dope, I write the most ballistic satire in the Political Discussion to troll MLD Woody.

    For god sakes read half the stuff I post over there, you absolute buffoon who can't detect sarcasm or satire.

    Get a life you baby.

    Shut up and go back to the 60s

  • Look I like busting Walters balls pretty much everytime he posts but he has a valid point here. I do not necessarily agree that we had to draft Watkins but it is inexcusable that we didnt address the WR position somewhere in the first 3 rounds. This draft was deep at the position and there were some stud guys still available to us multiple times when we passed them up. If Andre Johnson was truly available for a 2nd or 3rd round pick we were foolish to not pursue that as well especially given the fact we have 2 first rounders next year likey in the top 15.

  • i agree BUT

    gilbert

    manziel

    bitonio

    kirksey

    who's left in the 4th that woulda been a game changer?

    they had to ride out one crack in the foundation. now they know where they stand with gordon. wouldn't be surprised if farmer waited until the 2-3 round next year considering the bust average on top ten WR picks.

  • The trade down is ONLY good if Gilbert and our acquired Buffalo pick in 2015 pan out.

    If they know they were going to be without Gordon for the year, and not a blow away WR prospect in 2015 why not just draft Watkins for ourselves?

    ALSO - if the new NFL rules are WAY TOUGHER on defenses and playing pass defense then why not draft the fast athletic WR instead of the fast athletic DB?

  • Probably because unless that rookie WR is Randy Moss or AJ Green, said rookie would not have impacted the potential win total on this team. Rookie WR's hardly ever do. I don't even think Detroit had a +win season following the drafting of Megatron.

  • Probably because unless that rookie WR is Randy Moss or AJ Green, said rookie would not have impacted the potential win total on this team. Rookie WR's hardly ever do. I don't even think Detroit had a +win season following the drafting of Megatron.

    @tiamat63 said:

    said rookie would not have impacted the potential win total on this team. Rookie WR's hardly ever do.

    neither do rookie CB's.

    Sammy Watkins is a better WR prospect than Justin Gilbert is CB prospect IMO

  • Sammy Watkins wont be a Dez Bryant/Calvin Johnson/Randy Moss Type Player

    He will be good, no doubt.. but he wont be a franchise changing WR in the NFL (the type you give up 2 picks for)

    He doesn't have those type of ball skills.

    He's like Percy Harvin.. only bigger.. essentially a big Percy Harvin.. So a Percy Harvin that can play outside essentialy

  • Based on...what? Injury history alone would favor Gilbert. But hey, I'm sure you have a huge pack of straws to grasp at.

  • Based on...what? Injury history alone would favor Gilbert. But hey, I'm sure you have a huge pack of straws to grasp at.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Based on...what?

    what?

  • Calvin Johnson has won super bowls just like dez Bryant and AJ green and Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson and Brandon Marshall and josh Gordon.... Oh wait no josh Gordon didn't win the Super Bowl last year.... The browns went 4-12. If only tom Brady had an elite receiver, like randy moss, he would've won a Super Bowl by now. What a shame.

  • Calvin Johnson has won super bowls just like dez Bryant and AJ green and Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson and Brandon Marshall and josh Gordon.... Oh wait no josh Gordon didn't win the Super Bowl last year.... The browns went 4-12. If only tom Brady had an elite receiver, like randy moss, he would've won a Super Bowl by now. What a shame.

    @roycerolls said:

    Calvin Johnson has won super bowls just like dez Bryant and AJ green and Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson and Brandon Marshall and josh Gordon.... Oh wait no josh Gordon didn't win the Super Bowl last year.... The browns went 4-12. If only tom Brady had an elite receiver, like randy moss, he would've won a Super Bowl by now. What a shame.

    gotta love truth when it is spoken.

  • i agree BUT

    gilbert

    manziel

    bitonio

    kirksey

    who's left in the 4th that woulda been a game changer?

    they had to ride out one crack in the foundation. now they know where they stand with gordon. wouldn't be surprised if farmer waited until the 2-3 round next year considering the bust average on top ten WR picks.

    @miktoxic said:

    i agree BUT

    gilbert

    manziel

    bitonio

    kirksey

    who's left in the 4th that woulda been a game changer?

    they had to ride out one crack in the foundation. now they know where they stand with gordon. wouldn't be surprised if farmer waited until the 2-3 round next year considering the bust average on top ten WR picks.

    Gilbert

    Benjamin

    Bitonio

    Kirksey

    OR

    Bortles

    Bitonio

    Kirksey

    Shaq Evans

  • shoulda woulda coulda.

    don't blow the bortles horn just yet even though i agreed with you then that he was the best of the class right next to carr and garoffallo.

    evans will be the best rookie receiver, just ask manziel why.

  • Gilbert was a solid pick. Watkins is already injured with preseason pt. Imagine what happens when he actually play games. He's fragile. Gilbert will no be a game changer out the gate but he will be in due time.