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  • gftChris gftChrisG
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    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    There's a vote today apparently on the new drug policies, which in turn will dictate whether Josh Gordon (and Wes Welker, post concussion) will be reinstated. Not sure when the results will be known - you'd think if the suspensions are overturned, it would be with immediate effect, so Gordon could train tomorrow.

    Now, *that* would be an exciting offense, the way we ran the ball, the way Hawkins was making catches, less pressure on Miles Austin to be *the* guy, less pressue on Gabriel to produce immediately. RBs running the way they were, and defense playing like they did in the second half...could be fun times!

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      There's a vote today apparently on the new drug policies, which in turn will dictate whether Josh Gordon (and Wes Welker, post concussion) will be reinstated. Not sure when the results will be known - you'd think if the suspensions are overturned, it would be with immediate effect, so Gordon could train tomorrow.

      Now, *that* would be an exciting offense, the way we ran the ball, the way Hawkins was making catches, less pressure on Miles Austin to be *the* guy, less pressue on Gabriel to produce immediately. RBs running the way they were, and defense playing like they did in the second half...could be fun times!

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      @gftchris said:

      There's a vote today apparently on the new drug policies, which in turn will dictate whether Josh Gordon (and Wes Welker, post concussion) will be reinstated. Not sure when the results will be known - you'd think if the suspensions are overturned, it would be with immediate effect, so Gordon could train tomorrow.

      Now, *that* would be an exciting offense, the way we ran the ball, the way Hawkins was making catches, less pressure on Miles Austin to be *the* guy, less pressue on Gabriel to produce immediately. RBs running the way they were, and defense playing like they did in the second half...could be fun times!

      I'm hoping for this.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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        We all are.. It would put some meaning back to the season.. And maybe we can move forward and rise above the ashes... so to speak.

        Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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          Legally? Probably not. But then, if they change the law, it means they know it was wrong, and therefore the person shouldn't be penalised. But then, the person breaking the law knew the laws and still broke them (intentionally or otherwise).

          Either way, that doesn't have much bearing here. The vote's coming soon and nothing we talk about has an impact on the decision, can only use what we're given.

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            @douche-nozzle said:

            I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times.

            If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70?

            Just disregard this ignoramus post...I guess your Weed boys should get a freebie too huh.. or how about Antonio Brown , intentionally slamming his foot down on someone's head... It looked every bit intentional . I don't care what anyone say's.. He could've adjusted his body to land elsewhere...

            Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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              thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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              @douche-nozzle said:

              I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times.

              If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70?

              Go away!

              #Justsayin'
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                @douche-nozzle said:

                I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times.

                If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70?

                Go away!

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                @thenew23 said:

                Go away!

                I concur!

                Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                  MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                  @douche-nozzle said:

                  I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times.

                  If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70?

                  I'll help you understand......it's not a law, it's a rule....and the NFL is a company, not a court....they can do whatever the hell they want to do.....

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                    @douche-nozzle said:

                    I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times.

                    If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70?

                    I'll help you understand......it's not a law, it's a rule....and the NFL is a company, not a court....they can do whatever the hell they want to do.....

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    @mudfly said:

                    I'll help you understand......it's not a law, it's a rule....and the NFL is a company, not a court....they can do whatever the hell they want to do.....

                    An ability we all complain about when it doesn't suit us...

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                      djdawg2010D djdawg2010 wrote on last edited by
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                      @douche-nozzle said:

                      I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times.

                      If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70?

                      Well... I'll weigh in on this! Did he break the rules? Sure. But I find the NFL's stance regarding the use of cannabis as well as the Federal goverment's continued war on cannabis to be ridiculous! It's time to end a silly war on a plant, and end prohibition, in which history has shown has been a failure. Furthermore, not all laws or rules are just or moral. I welcome the NFL changing their stance on cannabis, for 1, and for 2, I hope it is enough for Josh Gordon to return to the field. So he smoked a little bud! It's not like he violently assaulted his significant other in an elevator! Which is the worst offense? You do the math!

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                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        @douche-nozzle said:

                        I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times.

                        If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70?

                        You don't understand really?

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                          MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                          Gotta say I HOPE he comes back, but am not getting too hyped up.....I haven't heard the NFL say they were gonna revisit this and, until I do, Im not counting on anything.....Honestly dont know if there is any meat to the rumors or just media speculation....

                          But, WOW!.....if he comes back....

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                            S Sheepdog wrote on last edited by
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                            @douche-nozzle said:

                            I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times.

                            If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70?

                            I do understand your point of view and the NFL could very well say that at the time they broke the rules so the suspension stays in effect.

                            I wouldn't be surprised if the new drug testing policy didn't go into effect until the start of the next league year.

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                              @mudfly said:

                              I'll help you understand......it's not a law, it's a rule....and the NFL is a company, not a court....they can do whatever the hell they want to do.....

                              An ability we all complain about when it doesn't suit us...

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                              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                              @gftchris said:

                              An ability we all complain about when it doesn't suit us...

                              Nobody complained when Haden was handed two games. Now we see that Gordon barely checks in at an outdated NFL threshold on half a test. I'd say there's legitimate cause for conversation.

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                                thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                                9 PM conference call with player reps. I guess we'll find out more tomorrow.

                                #Justsayin'
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                                  L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                                  Would be huge news and I'm quietly optimistic for the season already if this happens I may expode.

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                                    @douche-nozzle said:

                                    I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns! He broke the rules in place and he broke them multiple times.

                                    If they changed the speed limit on 71 from 65 to 70, should I expect them to give me the money back for the ticket I got last month for going 70?

                                    Just disregard this ignoramus post...I guess your Weed boys should get a freebie too huh.. or how about Antonio Brown , intentionally slamming his foot down on someone's head... It looked every bit intentional . I don't care what anyone say's.. He could've adjusted his body to land elsewhere...

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                                    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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                                    @nickers said:

                                    Just disregard this ignoramus post...I guess your Weed boys should get a freebie too huh.. or how about Antonio Brown , intentionally slamming his foot down on someone's head... It looked every bit intentional . I don't care what anyone say's.. He could've adjusted his body to land elsewhere...

                                    Nickers...5 times he broke the rules. Once after he was already flagged for another. Josh Gordon needs the one year ban to save his career. Attempting to compare it to first time offenders is ridiculous. I'm a proponent for the legalization of weed but Gordon is an idiot.

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                                      @nickers said:

                                      Just disregard this ignoramus post...I guess your Weed boys should get a freebie too huh.. or how about Antonio Brown , intentionally slamming his foot down on someone's head... It looked every bit intentional . I don't care what anyone say's.. He could've adjusted his body to land elsewhere...

                                      Nickers...5 times he broke the rules. Once after he was already flagged for another. Josh Gordon needs the one year ban to save his career. Attempting to compare it to first time offenders is ridiculous. I'm a proponent for the legalization of weed but Gordon is an idiot.

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                                      ThaakT Thaak wrote on last edited by
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                                      @vagitron said:

                                      Nickers...5 times he broke the rules. Once after he was already flagged for another. Josh Gordon needs the one year ban to save his career. Attempting to compare it to first time offenders is ridiculous. I'm a proponent for the legalization of weed but Gordon is an idiot.

                                      Lets get this correct.

                                      Josh Gordon was placed in Stage 2 before he ever set foot in the NFL.

                                      You can deem whether that's fair or not.

                                      But lets stop with the hyperbolic falsehoods. He did not fail NFL drug testing 5 times.

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                                        @nickers said:

                                        Just disregard this ignoramus post...I guess your Weed boys should get a freebie too huh.. or how about Antonio Brown , intentionally slamming his foot down on someone's head... It looked every bit intentional . I don't care what anyone say's.. He could've adjusted his body to land elsewhere...

                                        Nickers...5 times he broke the rules. Once after he was already flagged for another. Josh Gordon needs the one year ban to save his career. Attempting to compare it to first time offenders is ridiculous. I'm a proponent for the legalization of weed but Gordon is an idiot.

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                                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                        Is he coming back?

                                        Let's see... I have said that Josh Gordon will play this season in every thread even remotely related to the topic. So this time I'll say yes as well...

                                        @douche-nozzle said:

                                        I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns!

                                        Agree you were last week... glad to see you can move on. AS for the rest... see below...

                                        @vagitron said:

                                        Nickers...5 times he broke the rules. Once after he was already flagged for another. Josh Gordon needs the one year ban to save his career. Attempting to compare it to first time offenders is ridiculous. I'm a proponent for the legalization of weed but Gordon is an idiot.

                                        Josh may be an idiot, but that is not the question. The question here is whether or not he broke league rules this time by smoking pot...

                                        - The recently failed test result was at a level that is consistent with second hand smoke.

                                        - Josh maintains that he has not smoked, but has been exposed to second hand smoke.

                                        - Since his previous positive test he has been tested over 70 times and has passed them all except the test of the "A" split of the "failed" test; the "B" split detected the presence of the metabolite of interest, but at a level below the League's ultra-low "fail" threshold.

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                                          9 PM conference call with player reps. I guess we'll find out more tomorrow.

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                                          thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @thenew23 said:

                                          9 PM conference call with player reps. I guess we'll find out more tomorrow.

                                          Scratch that... 1:30 PM conference call with player repse to decide whether or not their current proposal is good enough...

                                          #Justsayin'
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