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  • VagitronV Vagitron

    @nickers said:

    Just disregard this ignoramus post...I guess your Weed boys should get a freebie too huh.. or how about Antonio Brown , intentionally slamming his foot down on someone's head... It looked every bit intentional . I don't care what anyone say's.. He could've adjusted his body to land elsewhere...

    Nickers...5 times he broke the rules. Once after he was already flagged for another. Josh Gordon needs the one year ban to save his career. Attempting to compare it to first time offenders is ridiculous. I'm a proponent for the legalization of weed but Gordon is an idiot.

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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Is he coming back?

    Let's see... I have said that Josh Gordon will play this season in every thread even remotely related to the topic. So this time I'll say yes as well...

    @douche-nozzle said:

    I don't understand the thought process here and it has nothing to do with Steelers vs Browns!

    Agree you were last week... glad to see you can move on. AS for the rest... see below...

    @vagitron said:

    Nickers...5 times he broke the rules. Once after he was already flagged for another. Josh Gordon needs the one year ban to save his career. Attempting to compare it to first time offenders is ridiculous. I'm a proponent for the legalization of weed but Gordon is an idiot.

    Josh may be an idiot, but that is not the question. The question here is whether or not he broke league rules this time by smoking pot...

    - The recently failed test result was at a level that is consistent with second hand smoke.

    - Josh maintains that he has not smoked, but has been exposed to second hand smoke.

    - Since his previous positive test he has been tested over 70 times and has passed them all except the test of the "A" split of the "failed" test; the "B" split detected the presence of the metabolite of interest, but at a level below the League's ultra-low "fail" threshold.

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    • thenew23T thenew23

      9 PM conference call with player reps. I guess we'll find out more tomorrow.

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      thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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      @thenew23 said:

      9 PM conference call with player reps. I guess we'll find out more tomorrow.

      Scratch that... 1:30 PM conference call with player repse to decide whether or not their current proposal is good enough...

      #Justsayin'
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        TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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        Getting Gordon back for this week would be so awesome. I wonder if the ban is enough of a wake up call for him to realize he needs to quit smoking til he retires or will he be a moron and try to just stay under the threshold of fail.

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          TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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          I read 9 pm on nfl.Com when did it change to 1:30?

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

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              I read 9 pm on nfl.Com when did it change to 1:30?

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              thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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              @topdawg31 said:

              I read 9 pm on nfl.Com when did it change to 1:30?

              1:30 PM for a convo between NFLPA and player agents... according to profootballtalk.com

              I guess 9 PM is for the NFLPA and player reps

              #Justsayin'
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                Jet fan here, and while I'm not exactly looking forward to another team fighting for a wildcard spot (which you guys definitely would if Gordon comes back), I'm looking forward to Gordon being reinstated. I don't smoke, but occasionally will be around others who smoke. The current restrictions are nuts. I'd probably fail the test a few weeks out of every year.

                Besides, I picked up Gordon on Waivers last week. My fantasy team could use the boost. I already have Demaryius Thomas. That'd be one hell of a 1-2 punch.

                Good luck Browns fans on getting some justice and #12 back on the field next week!

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                  Jet fan here, and while I'm not exactly looking forward to another team fighting for a wildcard spot (which you guys definitely would if Gordon comes back), I'm looking forward to Gordon being reinstated. I don't smoke, but occasionally will be around others who smoke. The current restrictions are nuts. I'd probably fail the test a few weeks out of every year.

                  Besides, I picked up Gordon on Waivers last week. My fantasy team could use the boost. I already have Demaryius Thomas. That'd be one hell of a 1-2 punch.

                  Good luck Browns fans on getting some justice and #12 back on the field next week!

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                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                  @jetfan79 said:

                  Jet fan here, and while I'm not exactly looking forward to another team fighting for a wildcard spot (which you guys definitely would if Gordon comes back), I'm looking forward to Gordon being reinstated. I don't smoke, but occasionally will be around others who smoke. The current restrictions are nuts. I'd probably fail the test a few weeks out of every year.

                  Besides, I picked up Gordon on Waivers last week. My fantasy team could use the boost. I already have Demaryius Thomas. That'd be one hell of a 1-2 punch.

                  Good luck Browns fans on getting some justice and #12 back on the field next week!

                  Thank you, friend. Good luck to your squad as well. Hopefully that offense of yours can compliment an impressive front 7 on defense.

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                    Jet fan here, and while I'm not exactly looking forward to another team fighting for a wildcard spot (which you guys definitely would if Gordon comes back), I'm looking forward to Gordon being reinstated. I don't smoke, but occasionally will be around others who smoke. The current restrictions are nuts. I'd probably fail the test a few weeks out of every year.

                    Besides, I picked up Gordon on Waivers last week. My fantasy team could use the boost. I already have Demaryius Thomas. That'd be one hell of a 1-2 punch.

                    Good luck Browns fans on getting some justice and #12 back on the field next week!

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                    djdawg2010D djdawg2010 wrote on last edited by
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                    @jetfan79 said:

                    Jet fan here, and while I'm not exactly looking forward to another team fighting for a wildcard spot (which you guys definitely would if Gordon comes back), I'm looking forward to Gordon being reinstated. I don't smoke, but occasionally will be around others who smoke. The current restrictions are nuts. I'd probably fail the test a few weeks out of every year.

                    Besides, I picked up Gordon on Waivers last week. My fantasy team could use the boost. I already have Demaryius Thomas. That'd be one hell of a 1-2 punch.

                    Good luck Browns fans on getting some justice and #12 back on the field next week!

                    Well Jets fan. I'm not above taking a few hits from the old sticky icky, so I have to agree about the current restrictions being nuts, as well as our government's stance regarding cannabis. It's time to legalize it and be done with it! When you have alcohol, and tobacco being legal, which I fully support, because the government has no business telling us what we can and can't consume, and the growing epidemic of abuse of opiates and heroin (truly dangerous shit and highly addictive) it's ridiculous to continue a war on weed!

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                      @jetfan79 said:

                      Jet fan here, and while I'm not exactly looking forward to another team fighting for a wildcard spot (which you guys definitely would if Gordon comes back), I'm looking forward to Gordon being reinstated. I don't smoke, but occasionally will be around others who smoke. The current restrictions are nuts. I'd probably fail the test a few weeks out of every year.

                      Besides, I picked up Gordon on Waivers last week. My fantasy team could use the boost. I already have Demaryius Thomas. That'd be one hell of a 1-2 punch.

                      Good luck Browns fans on getting some justice and #12 back on the field next week!

                      Well Jets fan. I'm not above taking a few hits from the old sticky icky, so I have to agree about the current restrictions being nuts, as well as our government's stance regarding cannabis. It's time to legalize it and be done with it! When you have alcohol, and tobacco being legal, which I fully support, because the government has no business telling us what we can and can't consume, and the growing epidemic of abuse of opiates and heroin (truly dangerous shit and highly addictive) it's ridiculous to continue a war on weed!

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                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                      @djdawg2010 said:

                      Well Jets fan. I'm not above taking a few hits from the old sticky icky, so I have to agree about the current restrictions being nuts, as well as our government's stance regarding cannabis. It's time to legalize it and be done with it! When you have alcohol, and tobacco being legal, which I fully support, because the government has no business telling us what we can and can't consume, and the growing epidemic of abuse of opiates and heroin (truly dangerous shit and highly addictive) it's ridiculous to continue a war on weed!

                      While I haven't smoked the chron in a long time (mainly because I'm useless once I do) for the most part I agree. I have an immediate family member that is an opiate/heroin addict and its absolutely devastating, to say the least.

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                        @jetfan79 said:

                        Jet fan here, and while I'm not exactly looking forward to another team fighting for a wildcard spot (which you guys definitely would if Gordon comes back), I'm looking forward to Gordon being reinstated. I don't smoke, but occasionally will be around others who smoke. The current restrictions are nuts. I'd probably fail the test a few weeks out of every year.

                        Besides, I picked up Gordon on Waivers last week. My fantasy team could use the boost. I already have Demaryius Thomas. That'd be one hell of a 1-2 punch.

                        Good luck Browns fans on getting some justice and #12 back on the field next week!

                        Thank you, friend. Good luck to your squad as well. Hopefully that offense of yours can compliment an impressive front 7 on defense.

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                        @tiamat63 said:

                        Thank you, friend. Good luck to your squad as well. Hopefully that offense of yours can compliment an impressive front 7 on defense.

                        Don't want to hijack the thread with Jet business, but thanks. Hopefully Geno cleans up the dumb stuff (running into defenders on 2nd down and fumbling inside the 5ydln instead of sliding, and taking 19yd sacks that remove us from FG range). Otherwise our hopes may fall to Vick.

                        @djdawg2010 said:

                        Well Jets fan. I'm not above taking a few hits from the old sticky icky, so I have to agree about the current restrictions being nuts, as well as our government's stance regarding cannabis. It's time to legalize it and be done with it! When you have alcohol, and tobacco being legal, which I fully support, because the government has no business telling us what we can and can't consume, and the growing epidemic of abuse of opiates and heroin (truly dangerous shit and highly addictive) it's ridiculous to continue a war on weed!

                        Exactly. Not to mention it'd probably decrease the jail population and costs by 25%.

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                          @tiamat63 said:

                          Thank you, friend. Good luck to your squad as well. Hopefully that offense of yours can compliment an impressive front 7 on defense.

                          Don't want to hijack the thread with Jet business, but thanks. Hopefully Geno cleans up the dumb stuff (running into defenders on 2nd down and fumbling inside the 5ydln instead of sliding, and taking 19yd sacks that remove us from FG range). Otherwise our hopes may fall to Vick.

                          @djdawg2010 said:

                          Well Jets fan. I'm not above taking a few hits from the old sticky icky, so I have to agree about the current restrictions being nuts, as well as our government's stance regarding cannabis. It's time to legalize it and be done with it! When you have alcohol, and tobacco being legal, which I fully support, because the government has no business telling us what we can and can't consume, and the growing epidemic of abuse of opiates and heroin (truly dangerous shit and highly addictive) it's ridiculous to continue a war on weed!

                          Exactly. Not to mention it'd probably decrease the jail population and costs by 25%.

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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                          @jetfan79 said:

                          Don't want to hijack the thread...

                          Not like that never happens here...

                          Thanks for the good wishes, but as long as Rexy is your HC, then I cannot return them.

                          Maybe next year... 😉

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                            @djdawg2010 said:

                            Well Jets fan. I'm not above taking a few hits from the old sticky icky, so I have to agree about the current restrictions being nuts, as well as our government's stance regarding cannabis. It's time to legalize it and be done with it! When you have alcohol, and tobacco being legal, which I fully support, because the government has no business telling us what we can and can't consume, and the growing epidemic of abuse of opiates and heroin (truly dangerous shit and highly addictive) it's ridiculous to continue a war on weed!

                            While I haven't smoked the chron in a long time (mainly because I'm useless once I do) for the most part I agree. I have an immediate family member that is an opiate/heroin addict and its absolutely devastating, to say the least.

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                            djdawg2010D djdawg2010 wrote on last edited by
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                            @tiamat63 said:

                            While I haven't smoked the chron in a long time (mainly because I'm useless once I do) for the most part I agree. I have an immediate family member that is an opiate/heroin addict and its absolutely devastating, to say the least.

                            For me, if I smoke it I get a nice hum, but can function quite well. However; when it's mixed with few drinks is when I get quite sluggish. At any rate, I hope your family member finds it within themself to shake off that horrible addiction. I sum it up to the fact that doctors started handing out pain pills like candy, for every little ache and pain, which is why it has made a huge comeback. When I was in high school heroin was considered such a 60s or 70s drug.

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                              tml1138T tml1138 wrote on last edited by
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                              Shouldn't even receive a ticket for going 70 in a 65. And if you did, a judge should throw that out.

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                                chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                                @douche-nozzle said:

                                We don't know this to be true, we just assume that "second hand" levels would be small. Based on how the THC molecules work in the human body, I doubt that second hand smoke would have any effect, or even be able to be tested. There is no base level and there is no testing to show the effect or even the ability to detect it.

                                so why don't you educate us on just what those little THc molecules do within the body. Its OK, you can use big words, I'm a science guy.
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                                  @douche-nozzle said:

                                  We don't know this to be true, we just assume that "second hand" levels would be small. Based on how the THC molecules work in the human body, I doubt that second hand smoke would have any effect, or even be able to be tested. There is no base level and there is no testing to show the effect or even the ability to detect it.

                                  so why don't you educate us on just what those little THc molecules do within the body. Its OK, you can use big words, I'm a science guy.
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                                  djdawg2010D djdawg2010 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @choco said:

                                  so why don't you educate us on just what those little THc molecules do within the body. Its OK, you can use big words, I'm a science guy.

                                  I can tell you this. While the THC molecule sticks to the fat cells in your body and can be found in your system for up to a month via a urine test, as they aren't as quickly soluable as other substances, the actual intoxicating effects of cannabis wear off in 1-3 hours on average. Sure depending on the strain of cannabis it could be longer. But if someone endulged 3 days ago, just because THC showed up in their test, it doesn't mean that person is under the influence or intoxicated. It's why I think drug tests are flawed! It's always the "stoners" that get caught, and yet you can drink yourself into a stupor on Friday, or blow lines on a Friday ( much more dangerous option) and pass a drug test on Tuesday! 😠

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                                    chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                                    I'll just wait for his response. But you're already on the right track that debunks his misinformed claim.

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                                      @vagitron said:

                                      Nickers...5 times he broke the rules. Once after he was already flagged for another. Josh Gordon needs the one year ban to save his career. Attempting to compare it to first time offenders is ridiculous. I'm a proponent for the legalization of weed but Gordon is an idiot.

                                      Lets get this correct.

                                      Josh Gordon was placed in Stage 2 before he ever set foot in the NFL.

                                      You can deem whether that's fair or not.

                                      But lets stop with the hyperbolic falsehoods. He did not fail NFL drug testing 5 times.

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                                      VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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                                      @thaak said:

                                      Lets get this correct.

                                      Josh Gordon was placed in Stage 2 before he ever set foot in the NFL.

                                      You can deem whether that's fair or not.

                                      But lets stop with the hyperbolic falsehoods. He did not fail NFL drug testing 5 times.

                                      Just recently he was flagged for a failed drug test and then grabbed a DUI after he was flagged. I'm also aware of his stage 2 status which makes it even worse. He was forced to the supplemental and then comes in to the league still messing up. You all should be looking at this suspension ad a way for him to get right. What's stopping him from getting flagged again otherwise.

                                      AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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                                        @thaak said:

                                        Lets get this correct.

                                        Josh Gordon was placed in Stage 2 before he ever set foot in the NFL.

                                        You can deem whether that's fair or not.

                                        But lets stop with the hyperbolic falsehoods. He did not fail NFL drug testing 5 times.

                                        Just recently he was flagged for a failed drug test and then grabbed a DUI after he was flagged. I'm also aware of his stage 2 status which makes it even worse. He was forced to the supplemental and then comes in to the league still messing up. You all should be looking at this suspension ad a way for him to get right. What's stopping him from getting flagged again otherwise.

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                                        djdawg2010D djdawg2010 wrote on last edited by
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                                        @vagitron said:

                                        Just recently he was flagged for a failed drug test and then grabbed a DUI after he was flagged. I'm also aware of his stage 2 status which makes it even worse. He was forced to the supplemental and then comes in to the league still messing up. You all should be looking at this suspension ad a way for him to get right. What's stopping him from getting flagged again otherwise.

                                        I think the NFL's rules regarding cannabis, and our laws against cannabis are ridiculous, and quite frankly it looks as if the tide is turning as more and more Americans are OK with ending prohibition. I look at it like this. It would be one thing if he took performance enhancing drugs such as steroids, because that is cheating. Suspend his ass, because there is no place for cheating! The DUI is a problem of course, because is actions could have killed someone! Not to mention, when you make that much money for Christ sakes call a cab, or a limo! On the other hand if these players want to smoke a little weed in the privacy of their own home, and aren't harming anyone in the process, who the fuck cares? It's a good bet a large segment of NFL players partake anyway.

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                                          @thaak said:

                                          Lets get this correct.

                                          Josh Gordon was placed in Stage 2 before he ever set foot in the NFL.

                                          You can deem whether that's fair or not.

                                          But lets stop with the hyperbolic falsehoods. He did not fail NFL drug testing 5 times.

                                          Just recently he was flagged for a failed drug test and then grabbed a DUI after he was flagged. I'm also aware of his stage 2 status which makes it even worse. He was forced to the supplemental and then comes in to the league still messing up. You all should be looking at this suspension ad a way for him to get right. What's stopping him from getting flagged again otherwise.

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                                          ThaakT Thaak wrote on last edited by
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                                          @vagitron said:

                                          Just recently he was flagged for a failed drug test and then grabbed a DUI after he was flagged. I'm also aware of his stage 2 status which makes it even worse. He was forced to the supplemental and then comes in to the league still messing up. You all should be looking at this suspension ad a way for him to get right. What's stopping him from getting flagged again otherwise.

                                          I was very encouraged by him getting a job at a local car dealership (he could have gone back "home" where all his enablers are). Being local in Cleveland, he can still talk to and get together with his teammates. They are not restricted from hanging out with him as a friend. And he checked himself into rehab so that he could get needed advice on how to deal with his life and keep positive people around him.

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