The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
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The Good was having TWO first round picks.
The Bad was Trading away the fourth pick when Mike Evans was available.
The Good was getting a quarterback.
The Bad was taking Gilbert in the first round when he wasn't even the best corner in the draft.
When will this organization get serious about winning and hire competent people.
I will say this once more: Evans at #4 and if Manziel isn't there take Jimmy Garapollo or Derek Carr. After all, they don't have the balls to play a rookie quarterback. And we now have Andrew Hawkins as our number 1 receiver.
DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD! -
Oh yea, I forgot. Hoyer threw behind the receiver two weeks in a row. Against the Saints, Hawkins had to come back to get the first down. If Hoyer had a stronger arm its a touchdown. Against the Ravens same thing. The receiver is wide open not a defender in sight. An easy score only Gabriel has to come back to catch the ball. It's laughable when you think about another season like the last twenty!
DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD! -
Oh yea, I forgot. Hoyer threw behind the receiver two weeks in a row. Against the Saints, Hawkins had to come back to get the first down. If Hoyer had a stronger arm its a touchdown. Against the Ravens same thing. The receiver is wide open not a defender in sight. An easy score only Gabriel has to come back to catch the ball. It's laughable when you think about another season like the last twenty!
Oh yea, I forgot. Hoyer threw behind the receiver two weeks in a row. Against the Saints, Hawkins had to come back to get the first down. If Hoyer had a stronger arm its a touchdown. Against the Ravens same thing. The receiver is wide open not a defender in sight. An easy score only Gabriel has to come back to catch the ball. It's laughable when you think about another season like the last twenty!
You really should check the tape...
The reason Gabe fell against the Ravens is that he had slowed down earlier in the route and had to hustle to catch up to the ball.
If you are referring to the catch Hawk made to set up the winning FG vs. the Saints, that was guided, but it was also intentionally thrown high and soft to insure a catch. Hawk was so wide open due to the blown coverage Hoyer could safely do so.
But you know what was really cool about the latter play? It was a completed pass and we won the game on the next play.
EDIT: ... and Mike Evans is an overrated, one trick pony.
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It's time to let it go with Haden, good lord. Everyone watching the Browns can see he's struggling this year. But the fact of the matter is 32 of 32 NFL teams would take and have Haden as a starter on their team. I don't give a shit if he's "elite", he's a very solid player who is struggling right now. The bye being early this year for the Browns is really, really good for all this. It will give Pettine and crew a chance to look at everything and get better. I'm sure that will include Haden.
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gotta disagree with our OLB'ers getting sealed inside. All of them have been setting the edge perfectly the whole season. Last sunday I started to see them try to spin off inside to try to help tackle the runners that always got through on the inside. That's not their job, it's the ILB'ers that aren't getting the job done.
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Maybe it'd help if you change your screen name to "Angel Eyes"...
LOL!
I have to agree with Taco. A victory makes all these petty complaints disappear. Every team has very good players get burned at some point every Sunday in this league. Every team targets rooks in this league for a very good reason. Every QB has an imperfect game every Sunday (I assume you saw King Manning picked off with a bad decision last Sunday late in the game). This team looks like they are on the verge of something special in the next couple of years. I plan to be part of it and I hope folks here will get the cure for Battered Browns Syndrome (BBS) and jump on board regardless of the score. Focus on the changes you DO like. I see a lot of them and it will get better.
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Maybe it'd help if you change your screen name to "Angel Eyes"...
LOL!
I have to agree with Taco. A victory makes all these petty complaints disappear. Every team has very good players get burned at some point every Sunday in this league. Every team targets rooks in this league for a very good reason. Every QB has an imperfect game every Sunday (I assume you saw King Manning picked off with a bad decision last Sunday late in the game). This team looks like they are on the verge of something special in the next couple of years. I plan to be part of it and I hope folks here will get the cure for Battered Browns Syndrome (BBS) and jump on board regardless of the score. Focus on the changes you DO like. I see a lot of them and it will get better.
... I hope folks here will get the cure for Battered Browns Syndrome (BBS)...
Trying to get Sarah McLaughlin to voice-over a commercial for us...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
... I hope folks here will get the cure for Battered Browns Syndrome (BBS)...
Trying to get Sarah McLaughlin to voice-over a commercial for us...
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... I hope folks here will get the cure for Battered Browns Syndrome (BBS)...
Trying to get Sarah McLaughlin to voice-over a commercial for us...
Trying to get Sarah McLaughlin to voice-over a commercial for us...
Yeah with JFF handing out Snickers to everyone!
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The Good was having TWO first round picks.
The Bad was Trading away the fourth pick when Mike Evans was available.
The Good was getting a quarterback.
The Bad was taking Gilbert in the first round when he wasn't even the best corner in the draft.
When will this organization get serious about winning and hire competent people.
I will say this once more: Evans at #4 and if Manziel isn't there take Jimmy Garapollo or Derek Carr. After all, they don't have the balls to play a rookie quarterback. And we now have Andrew Hawkins as our number 1 receiver.
The Good was having TWO first round picks.
The Bad was Trading away the fourth pick when Mike Evans was available.
The Good was getting a quarterback.
The Bad was taking Gilbert in the first round when he wasn't even the best corner in the draft.
When will this organization get serious about winning and hire competent people.
I will say this once more: Evans at #4 and if Manziel isn't there take Jimmy Garapollo or Derek Carr. After all, they don't have the balls to play a rookie quarterback. And we now have Andrew Hawkins as our number 1 receiver.
It's not the offense
We are currently ranked 11th overall in points per game and 13th overall in yards per game.
Defense on the other hand, we are ranked 2nd to last in yards given up per game.
Petitine need to spent more time on defense and not worry about "packages for Johnny Manziel".
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We should had taken MACK at 4 and then grab Carr or Bridgewater later...
Mack has been fock'n lights out!
"His 8.5 rating against the run is by far the best around the league, with Von Miller coming in second at a modest 5.5. Put simply, Mack has been dominant, and he’s just getting started."
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Maybe it'd help if you change your screen name to "Angel Eyes"...
LOL!
I have to agree with Taco. A victory makes all these petty complaints disappear. Every team has very good players get burned at some point every Sunday in this league. Every team targets rooks in this league for a very good reason. Every QB has an imperfect game every Sunday (I assume you saw King Manning picked off with a bad decision last Sunday late in the game). This team looks like they are on the verge of something special in the next couple of years. I plan to be part of it and I hope folks here will get the cure for Battered Browns Syndrome (BBS) and jump on board regardless of the score. Focus on the changes you DO like. I see a lot of them and it will get better.
LOL!
I have to agree with Taco. A victory makes all these petty complaints disappear. Every team has very good players get burned at some point every Sunday in this league. Every team targets rooks in this league for a very good reason. Every QB has an imperfect game every Sunday (I assume you saw King Manning picked off with a bad decision last Sunday late in the game). This team looks like they are on the verge of something special in the next couple of years. I plan to be part of it and I hope folks here will get the cure for Battered Browns Syndrome (BBS) and jump on board regardless of the score. Focus on the changes you DO like. I see a lot of them and it will get better.
What the hell are you talking about? The title of the thread is The Good, [do you see that?] The Bad, and The Ugly.
You guys are even dumber than the guys on Dawgtalkers.
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LOL!
I have to agree with Taco. A victory makes all these petty complaints disappear. Every team has very good players get burned at some point every Sunday in this league. Every team targets rooks in this league for a very good reason. Every QB has an imperfect game every Sunday (I assume you saw King Manning picked off with a bad decision last Sunday late in the game). This team looks like they are on the verge of something special in the next couple of years. I plan to be part of it and I hope folks here will get the cure for Battered Browns Syndrome (BBS) and jump on board regardless of the score. Focus on the changes you DO like. I see a lot of them and it will get better.
What the hell are you talking about? The title of the thread is The Good, [do you see that?] The Bad, and The Ugly.
You guys are even dumber than the guys on Dawgtalkers.
What the hell are you talking about? The title of the thread is The Good, [do you see that?] The Bad, and The Ugly.
You guys are even dumber than the guys on Dawgtalkers.
Vers!!! lol so far you are the only member from the official "browns chat" forum that I have seen here yet. sorry just nice to see a familiar *tag*...hope you have been well...miss that old chat room...lots of ...umm...not seeing eye to eye in that room...was fun
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Oh yea, I forgot. Hoyer threw behind the receiver two weeks in a row. Against the Saints, Hawkins had to come back to get the first down. If Hoyer had a stronger arm its a touchdown. Against the Ravens same thing. The receiver is wide open not a defender in sight. An easy score only Gabriel has to come back to catch the ball. It's laughable when you think about another season like the last twenty!
Oh yea, I forgot. Hoyer threw behind the receiver two weeks in a row. Against the Saints, Hawkins had to come back to get the first down. If Hoyer had a stronger arm its a touchdown. Against the Ravens same thing. The receiver is wide open not a defender in sight. An easy score only Gabriel has to come back to catch the ball.
what's laughable is you think this was worth the time u took to type this.
ur talking completely out ur ass....the long bomb to Gabriel displayed Hoyer's deep pass ability--it went 58 yrds THRU THE AIR.
fantabulous fart fiction or shaming shart speech? agenda laden, regardless.
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We should had taken MACK at 4 and then grab Carr or Bridgewater later...
Mack has been fock'n lights out!
"His 8.5 rating against the run is by far the best around the league, with Von Miller coming in second at a modest 5.5. Put simply, Mack has been dominant, and he’s just getting started."
We should had taken MACK at 4 and then grab Carr or Bridgewater later...
Mack has been fock'n lights out!
"His 8.5 rating against the run is by far the best around the league, with Von Miller coming in second at a modest 5.5. Put simply, Mack has been dominant, and he’s just getting started."
Should have, what if, doesn't matter now. Every team could sit there with heartburn over lost draft opportunities.
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It's time to let it go with Haden, good lord. Everyone watching the Browns can see he's struggling this year. But the fact of the matter is 32 of 32 NFL teams would take and have Haden as a starter on their team. I don't give a shit if he's "elite", he's a very solid player who is struggling right now. The bye being early this year for the Browns is really, really good for all this. It will give Pettine and crew a chance to look at everything and get better. I'm sure that will include Haden.
great point about the bye, very good timing. 5% better for the past month makes us 3-0 rt now...and beats tennessee.It's time to let it go with Haden, good lord. Everyone watching the Browns can see he's struggling this year. But the fact of the matter is 32 of 32 NFL teams would take and have Haden as a starter on their team. I don't give a shit if he's "elite", he's a very solid player who is struggling right now. The bye being early this year for the Browns is really, really good for all this. It will give Pettine and crew a chance to look at everything and get better. I'm sure that will include Haden.
EVERYONE possesses tendencies that show up on film. offense--defense...QB's...receivers...db's everybody...including Megatrons, Ray Lewis'...the Joe Thomas' and yes even the 5th yr Joe Hadens of the world continually have things to correct.
most certainly capable pick-sixing pro-bowl-worthy A.J. Green-dominating guys that get game-planned around.
did i mention i love me some Joe Haden? while he may not hit as hard as he would like himself to, he has come a long way since his pair of peach fuzzy years in FL and now...entering the prime of his career in only his 7th year total as a CB...he is at minimum a sure tackler who NEVER shies away from contact or the matchup no matter who it is. dude is 90% of Cleveland's swag. seriously.
everybody gets beat some times but this is definitely improvable. they need to pin point what some teams have keyed in on and make the necessary adjustments...and my prediction is they will.
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LOL!
I have to agree with Taco. A victory makes all these petty complaints disappear. Every team has very good players get burned at some point every Sunday in this league. Every team targets rooks in this league for a very good reason. Every QB has an imperfect game every Sunday (I assume you saw King Manning picked off with a bad decision last Sunday late in the game). This team looks like they are on the verge of something special in the next couple of years. I plan to be part of it and I hope folks here will get the cure for Battered Browns Syndrome (BBS) and jump on board regardless of the score. Focus on the changes you DO like. I see a lot of them and it will get better.
What the hell are you talking about? The title of the thread is The Good, [do you see that?] The Bad, and The Ugly.
You guys are even dumber than the guys on Dawgtalkers.
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Khalil Mack would have been a very wise pick at #4 and at 26 you get Gilbert or Fuller. A quarterback in the second round like Garopallo (who looks like a good replacement for Brady) should have been the way to go. Ray Farmer's circus-like maneuvers during the draft did more harm than good. You have to have a good team before you start trading away for next year. The Browns made a statement by trading away the #4 pick for a #1 next year.
It was a lousy draft considering the huge crop of talent on both sides of the ball.
And for those who are hating on Mike Evans; there is no quarterback in Tampa!!!
Evans, Khalil Mack, Ryan Shazier, Kyle Fuller, Carr, Garapollo, kelvin Benjamin all would have fit nicely.
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