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  • htownbrown htownbrownH Reacting Well Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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    Let em have it, its just a monument. The sad part is this is in a court wasting taxpayer money. If you don't like it, don't read it. I would say to all the athiests out there; don't waste your time on keeping religion in the shadows, but rather spend your time protecting your right to believe what you want.

    β€œIt is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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      VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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      lol, there are some satanists that are planning on putting this on the lawn

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        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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        I hope it plays Slayer.

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          The Cub Scout salute? ???

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            The Cub Scout salute? ???

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            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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            @westside-steve said:

            The Cub Scout salute? ???

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            Yeah either Satan is a scout or the scouts have some explaining to do haha.

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              The Cub Scout salute? ???

              WSS

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              VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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              @westside-steve said:

              The Cub Scout salute? ???

              WSS

              You didn't know that Beelzebub was an Eagle Scout?

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                I hope it plays Slayer.

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                @logicisforsquares said:

                I hope it plays Slayer.

                Slayer or it fails

                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                  Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                  "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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                    How are the 10 Commandments secular? I realize some of our law was based on the 10 Commandments (as well as a lot of other old documents) but I am not sure how you could call it "secular"

                    It is Oklahoma though... what are ya gonna do?

                    Well, I hope every other group just fills the lawn with random shit

                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                      "The Ten Commandments monument on the Oklahoma Capitol grounds is constitutional because of its historical value,"

                      I'm sorry, 'historical' value? Implying that they definitively happened? I don't care about the statue, but the judge's reasoning is pretty iffy, along with the aforementioned supposed secularity of the monument.

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                      • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

                        I expect to see about 30 monuments built by people who make up a religion on the fly.

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                        S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                        @logicisforsquares said:

                        I expect to see about 30 monuments built by people who make up a religion on the fly.

                        Godoftitsandwineimwithit..jpg?width=737&

                        @gftchris said:

                        "The Ten Commandments monument on the Oklahoma Capitol grounds is constitutional because of its historical value,"

                        I'm sorry, 'historical' value? Implying that they definitively happened? I don't care about the statue, but the judge's reasoning is pretty iffy, along with the aforementioned supposed secularity of the monument.

                        They do serve, whether you believe the story of how Moses came down from the mountain with the tablets or not, as the basis of Laws in most Western Civilizations, so they do have 'historical' value which makes a legitimate reason to have around government buildings.

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                            @logicisforsquares said:

                            I expect to see about 30 monuments built by people who make up a religion on the fly.

                            Godoftitsandwineimwithit..jpg?width=737&

                            @gftchris said:

                            "The Ten Commandments monument on the Oklahoma Capitol grounds is constitutional because of its historical value,"

                            I'm sorry, 'historical' value? Implying that they definitively happened? I don't care about the statue, but the judge's reasoning is pretty iffy, along with the aforementioned supposed secularity of the monument.

                            They do serve, whether you believe the story of how Moses came down from the mountain with the tablets or not, as the basis of Laws in most Western Civilizations, so they do have 'historical' value which makes a legitimate reason to have around government buildings.

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                            VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                            @sadbrownsfan said:

                            They do serve, whether you believe the story of how Moses came down from the mountain with the tablets or not, as the basis of Laws in most Western Civilizations, so they do have 'historical' value which makes a legitimate reason to have around government buildings.

                            Because there are so many laws against following the wrong religion, skipping church, talking back to your parents, and coveting your neighbor's wife and material shit πŸ™„ There are penalties for murder and theft in every civilization. So I could make the same argument with just about any other theory of law that may have marginally influenced western civilizations.

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                              @sadbrownsfan said:

                              They do serve, whether you believe the story of how Moses came down from the mountain with the tablets or not, as the basis of Laws in most Western Civilizations, so they do have 'historical' value which makes a legitimate reason to have around government buildings.

                              Because there are so many laws against following the wrong religion, skipping church, talking back to your parents, and coveting your neighbor's wife and material shit πŸ™„ There are penalties for murder and theft in every civilization. So I could make the same argument with just about any other theory of law that may have marginally influenced western civilizations.

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                              S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                              @vaportrail said:

                              Because there are so many laws against following the wrong religion, skipping church, talking back to your parents, and coveting your neighbor's wife and material shit πŸ™„ There are penalties for murder and theft in every civilization. So I could make the same argument with just about any other theory of law that may have marginally influenced western civilizations.

                              Do you feel another theory or law did more than the commandments? Greek\Roman law? or even Babylonian\Egyptian law....or just disagreeing to disagree?

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                                I hope it plays Slayer.

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                                @logicisforsquares said:

                                I hope it plays Slayer.

                                If not, then 'Shout at the Devil"

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                                  @vaportrail said:

                                  Because there are so many laws against following the wrong religion, skipping church, talking back to your parents, and coveting your neighbor's wife and material shit πŸ™„ There are penalties for murder and theft in every civilization. So I could make the same argument with just about any other theory of law that may have marginally influenced western civilizations.

                                  Do you feel another theory or law did more than the commandments? Greek\Roman law? or even Babylonian\Egyptian law....or just disagreeing to disagree?

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                                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                  @sadbrownsfan said:

                                  Do you feel another theory or law did more than the commandments? Greek\Roman law? or even Babylonian\Egyptian law....or just disagreeing to disagree?

                                  1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
                                  2. You shall not make idols.
                                  3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
                                  4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
                                  5. Honor your father and your mother.
                                  6. You shall not murder.
                                  7. You shall not commit adultery.
                                  8. You shall not steal.
                                  9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
                                  10. You shall not covet.

                                  There are 3 laws in there that are part of modern society.

                                  The first 4 aren't relevent in today's society.

                                  5 is good advice, but we wouldn't need the bible to tell us that - look at any tribe and the elders are always the most respected.

                                  7 isn't a law. Regrettable, maybe, but not illegal.

                                  Coveting your neighbours stuff is how most of suburbia works - neighbour gets a new TV, I want a new TV. I get a new ride-on lawnmower, my neighbour gets one with a bigger engine.

                                  Saying they're the basis for our law system is a stretch.

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                                    @vaportrail said:

                                    Because there are so many laws against following the wrong religion, skipping church, talking back to your parents, and coveting your neighbor's wife and material shit πŸ™„ There are penalties for murder and theft in every civilization. So I could make the same argument with just about any other theory of law that may have marginally influenced western civilizations.

                                    Do you feel another theory or law did more than the commandments? Greek\Roman law? or even Babylonian\Egyptian law....or just disagreeing to disagree?

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                                    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                                    @sadbrownsfan said:

                                    Do you feel another theory or law did more than the commandments? Greek\Roman law? or even Babylonian\Egyptian law....or just disagreeing to disagree?

                                    So today's laws that Chris pointed out are attributed primarily to the 10 commandments? Bold move, cotton. I'll let you justify that rather than trying to argue against it.

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                                      @sadbrownsfan said:

                                      Do you feel another theory or law did more than the commandments? Greek\Roman law? or even Babylonian\Egyptian law....or just disagreeing to disagree?

                                      1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
                                      2. You shall not make idols.
                                      3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
                                      4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
                                      5. Honor your father and your mother.
                                      6. You shall not murder.
                                      7. You shall not commit adultery.
                                      8. You shall not steal.
                                      9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
                                      10. You shall not covet.

                                      There are 3 laws in there that are part of modern society.

                                      The first 4 aren't relevent in today's society.

                                      5 is good advice, but we wouldn't need the bible to tell us that - look at any tribe and the elders are always the most respected.

                                      7 isn't a law. Regrettable, maybe, but not illegal.

                                      Coveting your neighbours stuff is how most of suburbia works - neighbour gets a new TV, I want a new TV. I get a new ride-on lawnmower, my neighbour gets one with a bigger engine.

                                      Saying they're the basis for our law system is a stretch.

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                                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @gftchris said:

                                      1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
                                      2. You shall not make idols.
                                      3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
                                      4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
                                      5. Honor your father and your mother.
                                      6. You shall not murder.
                                      7. You shall not commit adultery.
                                      8. You shall not steal.
                                      9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
                                      10. You shall not covet.

                                      There are 3 laws in there that are part of modern society.

                                      The first 4 aren't relevent in today's society.

                                      5 is good advice, but we wouldn't need the bible to tell us that - look at any tribe and the elders are always the most respected.

                                      7 isn't a law. Regrettable, maybe, but not illegal.

                                      Coveting your neighbours stuff is how most of suburbia works - neighbour gets a new TV, I want a new TV. I get a new ride-on lawnmower, my neighbour gets one with a bigger engine.

                                      Saying they're the basis for our law system is a stretch.

                                      No. 7 is a law in the military. You can be court martialed for it.

                                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                        @gftchris said:

                                        1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
                                        2. You shall not make idols.
                                        3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
                                        4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
                                        5. Honor your father and your mother.
                                        6. You shall not murder.
                                        7. You shall not commit adultery.
                                        8. You shall not steal.
                                        9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
                                        10. You shall not covet.

                                        There are 3 laws in there that are part of modern society.

                                        The first 4 aren't relevent in today's society.

                                        5 is good advice, but we wouldn't need the bible to tell us that - look at any tribe and the elders are always the most respected.

                                        7 isn't a law. Regrettable, maybe, but not illegal.

                                        Coveting your neighbours stuff is how most of suburbia works - neighbour gets a new TV, I want a new TV. I get a new ride-on lawnmower, my neighbour gets one with a bigger engine.

                                        Saying they're the basis for our law system is a stretch.

                                        No. 7 is a law in the military. You can be court martialed for it.

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                                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                        No. 7 is a law in the military. You can be court martialed for it.

                                        Yeah, the UCMJ is a different sort of animal. Good point, though.

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                                          @gftchris said:

                                          1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
                                          2. You shall not make idols.
                                          3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
                                          4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
                                          5. Honor your father and your mother.
                                          6. You shall not murder.
                                          7. You shall not commit adultery.
                                          8. You shall not steal.
                                          9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
                                          10. You shall not covet.

                                          There are 3 laws in there that are part of modern society.

                                          The first 4 aren't relevent in today's society.

                                          5 is good advice, but we wouldn't need the bible to tell us that - look at any tribe and the elders are always the most respected.

                                          7 isn't a law. Regrettable, maybe, but not illegal.

                                          Coveting your neighbours stuff is how most of suburbia works - neighbour gets a new TV, I want a new TV. I get a new ride-on lawnmower, my neighbour gets one with a bigger engine.

                                          Saying they're the basis for our law system is a stretch.

                                          No. 7 is a law in the military. You can be court martialed for it.

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                                          @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                          No. 7 is a law in the military. You can be court martialed for it.

                                          It is also still illegal in many US states.

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