We have to stop blowing 1st round picks.
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Sorry Gipper,
but if you think Phil Taylor is as Julio Jones, you are 100% wrong.
Julio Jones is a top 10 NFL receiver and Phil Taylor is an average starter who's so fat and out of shape he failed his physical for training camp.
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Maybe the Paul Brown curse is true. Different coaches, starting quarterbacks, poor draft decisions, hasn't stopped the Haslam regime from jumping on the losing bandwagon. There was a Ray of Hope when they traded Trent Richardson for a first round pick. But alas; this is Cleveland.
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I think the title of this post could of been better thought out....
I think the title of this post could of been better thought out....
Disagree...
It's as fully thought thru as any of his posts... and actually more than most.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Just stop it...
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Taylor has been a beast for us what on earth are you thinking? I will agree though that year I wanted Watt bad. We were running a 4-3 and he was a beast 43 DE at Wisconsin. I was really surprised how well he adapted to the 5 tech 3-4 spot. Just imagine if we had gotten him and lined him up at the 43 DE coupled with our current d line minus Taylor, obviously. I think with him and Sheard we would still be running the 43.
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I think the title of this post could of been better thought out....
Disagree...
It's as fully thought thru as any of his posts... and actually more than most.
Disagree...
It's as fully thought thru as any of his posts... and actually more than most.
You contribute absolutely nothing but dry empty critiques to this board.
You are sound like an over-philosophical douche.
We have 6 first round picks and not a single one is a good starter you buffoon.
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Gosh....I could have married Jennifer Anniston
Gosh...I could have married Teri Hatcher
Gosh...I could have married....any hot chick you can think of.
Gosh...If I had only picked the right 6 numbers in the lottery instead of the 6 I did pick.
Gosh....if your life is so bad, and if you are a Buddhist, just jump off the 480 Bridge and hit restart.
Otherwise....quit whining like a baby. It is pathetic.
Think about what the Browns can do to improve from this point forward, not about what they coulda done years ago.
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Gosh....I could have married Jennifer Anniston
Gosh...I could have married Teri Hatcher
Gosh...I could have married....any hot chick you can think of.
Gosh...If I had only picked the right 6 numbers in the lottery instead of the 6 I did pick.
Gosh....if your life is so bad, and if you are a Buddhist, just jump off the 480 Bridge and hit restart.
Otherwise....quit whining like a baby. It is pathetic.
Think about what the Browns can do to improve from this point forward, not about what they coulda done years ago.
Gosh....I could have married Jennifer Anniston
Gosh...I could have married Teri Hatcher
Gosh...I could have married....any hot chick you can think of.
Gosh...If I had only picked the right 6 numbers in the lottery instead of the 6 I did pick.
Gosh....if your life is so bad, and if you are a Buddhist, just jump off the 480 Bridge and hit restart.
Otherwise....quit whining like a baby. It is pathetic.
Think about what the Browns can do to improve from this point forward, not about what they coulda done years ago.
Or perhaps you go back, re-evaluate your mistakes so you don't make them again in the future.
Of course playing Monday morning QB is easy, but when you have 6 first round picks and haven't hit on one of them, that's whats pathetic.
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one of the biggest manziel ball huggers turns into the whiniest bitch on the board?
who woulda thought?
way to hold your onto your convictions!
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Disagree...
It's as fully thought thru as any of his posts... and actually more than most.
You contribute absolutely nothing but dry empty critiques to this board.
You are sound like an over-philosophical douche.
We have 6 first round picks and not a single one is a good starter you buffoon.
You contribute absolutely nothing but dry empty critiques to this board.
If true, which it is not, it would still mean I contribute something.
And buffoon? Time to step up your game, son...
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one of the biggest manziel ball huggers turns into the whiniest bitch on the board?
who woulda thought?
way to hold your onto your convictions!
one of the biggest manziel ball huggers turns into the whiniest bitch on the board?
who woulda thought?
way to hold your onto your convictions!
Were losers. We are 0-2 in the division and in dead last.
We still can't beat Baltimore and Pittsburgh.
So sick and fucking tired of losing and dealing with "Oh chill out Moral Victory douchebag fucking pussies"
Can't we just fucking burry these god damn teams for once.
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2006 Kamerion Wimbley
Browns passed on AJ Hawk, Deangelo Williams, Vernon Davis
2007 Joe Thomas
Browns passed on Darelle Revis, adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Patrick Willis
2008 No pick
2009 Alex Mack
Browns passed on Clay Mathews, Michael Crabtree, Percy Harvin
2010 Joe Haden
Browns passed on Earl Thomas, Maurice Pouncey, Demaryious Thomas
2006 Kamerion Wimbley
Browns passed on AJ Hawk, Deangelo Williams, Vernon Davis
2007 Joe Thomas
Browns passed on Darelle Revis, adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Patrick Willis
2008 No pick
2009 Alex Mack
Browns passed on Clay Mathews, Michael Crabtree, Percy Harvin
2010 Joe Haden
Browns passed on Earl Thomas, Maurice Pouncey, Demaryious Thomas
the only one we blew on your list was the kam wimberly 2006.
all the rest i'd say we made the right choices.
how can you question thomas, mack or haden? (unless you're joking).
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I'll say this. Mike Holmgren the meat titted zilch set us back a good 5 years. What a shitty draft guy that wouldn't let Heckert do his job.
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But they aren't here any damn more. Give it a rest, it's history and it's over.
Good freakin gravy, stop the bitching.
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2006 Kamerion Wimbley
Browns passed on AJ Hawk, Deangelo Williams, Vernon Davis
2007 Joe Thomas
Browns passed on Darelle Revis, adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Patrick Willis
2008 No pick
2009 Alex Mack
Browns passed on Clay Mathews, Michael Crabtree, Percy Harvin
2010 Joe Haden
Browns passed on Earl Thomas, Maurice Pouncey, Demaryious Thomas
2006 Kamerion Wimbley
Browns passed on AJ Hawk, Deangelo Williams, Vernon Davis
2007 Joe Thomas
Browns passed on Darelle Revis, adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Patrick Willis
2008 No pick
2009 Alex Mack
Browns passed on Clay Mathews, Michael Crabtree, Percy Harvin
2010 Joe Haden
Browns passed on Earl Thomas, Maurice Pouncey, Demaryious Thomas
Don't just start rattling off names if you think no one is going to check up on you. RE: 2006, first off, Hawk and Davis were already off the board when the Browns drafted- or did your ESP tell you to trade up to get one of them too? Secondly, the Browns very unwisely traded with the Ravens allowing them to take Haloti Ngata.BTW- at the time that was considered a reach by the Ravens to take a NT that high. Ooh- you forgot about Cromartie and Tamba Hali- who were on the board.
2007 You can bite me regarding Joe Thomas. A multi time Pro Bowl LT trumps anyone else on that list. Peterson missed time with a blown out knee, may be spending more time in jail, and the Vikings haven't been to the Super Bowl even with him. The humongous mistake was trading up to take "It's a sin if they draft Quinn". My quote from that draft. That little detail cost us Chris Johnson in 2008.
2009 Mack's been to the Pro Bowl, started every game, and the others have all missed significant time due to injury. BTW, Crabtree was off the board when the Browns drafted, Strike 2, your 20\20 hind sight seems to be off kilter. The little detail you seemed to miss was in the second round, the Browns took Mohammed Massivedrop instead of LeSean McCoy.
2010 Haden has been to the Pro Bowl, and it would have been twice if he hadn't gotten busted for alderal. Pouncey? Strike three pal. you think we were going to draft a center when we already had a Pro Bowl center on the roster?
the only one we blew on your list was the kam wimberly 2006.
all the rest i'd say we made the right choices.
how can you question thomas, mack or haden? (unless you're joking).
He needs to go to remedial draft history school, and learn himself up.
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Gosh....I could have married Jennifer Anniston
Gosh...I could have married Teri Hatcher
Gosh...I could have married....any hot chick you can think of.
Gosh...If I had only picked the right 6 numbers in the lottery instead of the 6 I did pick.
Gosh....if your life is so bad, and if you are a Buddhist, just jump off the 480 Bridge and hit restart.
Otherwise....quit whining like a baby. It is pathetic.
Think about what the Browns can do to improve from this point forward, not about what they coulda done years ago.
Gosh....I could have married Jennifer Anniston
Gosh...I could have married Teri Hatcher
Gosh...I could have married....any hot chick you can think of.
Gosh...If I had only picked the right 6 numbers in the lottery instead of the 6 I did pick.
Gosh....if your life is so bad, and if you are a Buddhist, just jump off the 480 Bridge and hit restart.
Otherwise....quit whining like a baby. It is pathetic.
Think about what the Browns can do to improve from this point forward, not about what they coulda done years ago.
Amen!!!! Nuff Said!!!
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2006 Kamerion Wimbley
Browns passed on AJ Hawk, Deangelo Williams, Vernon Davis
2007 Joe Thomas
Browns passed on Darelle Revis, adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Patrick Willis
2008 No pick
2009 Alex Mack
Browns passed on Clay Mathews, Michael Crabtree, Percy Harvin
2010 Joe Haden
Browns passed on Earl Thomas, Maurice Pouncey, Demaryious Thomas
Don't just start rattling off names if you think no one is going to check up on you. RE: 2006, first off, Hawk and Davis were already off the board when the Browns drafted- or did your ESP tell you to trade up to get one of them too? Secondly, the Browns very unwisely traded with the Ravens allowing them to take Haloti Ngata.BTW- at the time that was considered a reach by the Ravens to take a NT that high. Ooh- you forgot about Cromartie and Tamba Hali- who were on the board.
2007 You can bite me regarding Joe Thomas. A multi time Pro Bowl LT trumps anyone else on that list. Peterson missed time with a blown out knee, may be spending more time in jail, and the Vikings haven't been to the Super Bowl even with him. The humongous mistake was trading up to take "It's a sin if they draft Quinn". My quote from that draft. That little detail cost us Chris Johnson in 2008.
2009 Mack's been to the Pro Bowl, started every game, and the others have all missed significant time due to injury. BTW, Crabtree was off the board when the Browns drafted, Strike 2, your 20\20 hind sight seems to be off kilter. The little detail you seemed to miss was in the second round, the Browns took Mohammed Massivedrop instead of LeSean McCoy.
2010 Haden has been to the Pro Bowl, and it would have been twice if he hadn't gotten busted for alderal. Pouncey? Strike three pal. you think we were going to draft a center when we already had a Pro Bowl center on the roster?
the only one we blew on your list was the kam wimberly 2006.
all the rest i'd say we made the right choices.
how can you question thomas, mack or haden? (unless you're joking).
He needs to go to remedial draft history school, and learn himself up.
Don't just start rattling off names if you think no one is going to check up on you. RE: 2006, first off, Hawk and Davis were already off the board when the Browns drafted- or did your ESP tell you to trade up to get one of them too? Secondly, the Browns very unwisely traded with the Ravens allowing them to take Haloti Ngata.BTW- at the time that was considered a reach by the Ravens to take a NT that high. Ooh- you forgot about Cromartie and Tamba Hali- who were on the board.
2007 You can bite me regarding Joe Thomas. A multi time Pro Bowl LT trumps anyone else on that list. Peterson missed time with a blown out knee, may be spending more time in jail, and the Vikings haven't been to the Super Bowl even with him. The humongous mistake was trading up to take "It's a sin if they draft Quinn". My quote from that draft. That little detail cost us Chris Johnson in 2008.
2009 Mack's been to the Pro Bowl, started every game, and the others have all missed significant time due to injury. BTW, Crabtree was off the board when the Browns drafted, Strike 2, your 20\20 hind sight seems to be off kilter. The little detail you seemed to miss was in the second round, the Browns took Mohammed Massivedrop instead of LeSean McCoy.
2010 Haden has been to the Pro Bowl, and it would have been twice if he hadn't gotten busted for alderal. Pouncey? Strike three pal. you think we were going to draft a center when we already had a Pro Bowl center on the roster?
He needs to go to remedial draft history school, and learn himself up.
Someone just got "OWNED"!!! For christ sake, we all are Browns Fans. Yes, we have had a lot of let downs since 1999, but for God Sake can we stop bitching about the past, and look Forward. We are in the middle of every offensive stat this season, something we haven't seen in like forever. This team has a different attitude and I for 1 feel good. I don't post much, I love this site to read your takes and breakdowns. But, it does get old seeing the bitching about stuff that has happened in the past and no longer effects our beloved BROWNS. Sorry for the rant.
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Gosh....I could have married Jennifer Anniston
Gosh...I could have married Teri Hatcher
Gosh...I could have married....any hot chick you can think of.
Gosh...If I had only picked the right 6 numbers in the lottery instead of the 6 I did pick.
Gosh....if your life is so bad, and if you are a Buddhist, just jump off the 480 Bridge and hit restart.
Otherwise....quit whining like a baby. It is pathetic.
Think about what the Browns can do to improve from this point forward, not about what they coulda done years ago.
Or perhaps you go back, re-evaluate your mistakes so you don't make them again in the future.
Of course playing Monday morning QB is easy, but when you have 6 first round picks and haven't hit on one of them, that's whats pathetic.
Or perhaps you go back, re-evaluate your mistakes so you don't make them again in the future.
Of course playing Monday morning QB is easy, but when you have 6 first round picks and haven't hit on one of them, that's whats pathetic.
what the hell?. ok name me 6 first round draft picks that this regime has drafted?
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2006 Kamerion Wimbley
Browns passed on AJ Hawk, Deangelo Williams, Vernon Davis
2007 Joe Thomas
Browns passed on Darelle Revis, adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Patrick Willis
2008 No pick
2009 Alex Mack
Browns passed on Clay Mathews, Michael Crabtree, Percy Harvin
2010 Joe Haden
Browns passed on Earl Thomas, Maurice Pouncey, Demaryious Thomas
Don't just start rattling off names if you think no one is going to check up on you. RE: 2006, first off, Hawk and Davis were already off the board when the Browns drafted- or did your ESP tell you to trade up to get one of them too? Secondly, the Browns very unwisely traded with the Ravens allowing them to take Haloti Ngata.BTW- at the time that was considered a reach by the Ravens to take a NT that high. Ooh- you forgot about Cromartie and Tamba Hali- who were on the board.
2007 You can bite me regarding Joe Thomas. A multi time Pro Bowl LT trumps anyone else on that list. Peterson missed time with a blown out knee, may be spending more time in jail, and the Vikings haven't been to the Super Bowl even with him. The humongous mistake was trading up to take "It's a sin if they draft Quinn". My quote from that draft. That little detail cost us Chris Johnson in 2008.
2009 Mack's been to the Pro Bowl, started every game, and the others have all missed significant time due to injury. BTW, Crabtree was off the board when the Browns drafted, Strike 2, your 20\20 hind sight seems to be off kilter. The little detail you seemed to miss was in the second round, the Browns took Mohammed Massivedrop instead of LeSean McCoy.
2010 Haden has been to the Pro Bowl, and it would have been twice if he hadn't gotten busted for alderal. Pouncey? Strike three pal. you think we were going to draft a center when we already had a Pro Bowl center on the roster?
the only one we blew on your list was the kam wimberly 2006.
all the rest i'd say we made the right choices.
how can you question thomas, mack or haden? (unless you're joking).
He needs to go to remedial draft history school, and learn himself up.
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Don't just start rattling off names if you think no one is going to check up on you. RE: 2006, first off, Hawk and Davis were already off the board when the Browns drafted- or did your ESP tell you to trade up to get one of them too? Secondly, the Browns very unwisely traded with the Ravens allowing them to take Haloti Ngata.BTW- at the time that was considered a reach by the Ravens to take a NT that high. Ooh- you forgot about Cromartie and Tamba Hali- who were on the board.
2007 You can bite me regarding Joe Thomas. A multi time Pro Bowl LT trumps anyone else on that list. Peterson missed time with a blown out knee, may be spending more time in jail, and the Vikings haven't been to the Super Bowl even with him. The humongous mistake was trading up to take "It's a sin if they draft Quinn". My quote from that draft. That little detail cost us Chris Johnson in 2008.
2009 Mack's been to the Pro Bowl, started every game, and the others have all missed significant time due to injury. BTW, Crabtree was off the board when the Browns drafted, Strike 2, your 20\20 hind sight seems to be off kilter. The little detail you seemed to miss was in the second round, the Browns took Mohammed Massivedrop instead of LeSean McCoy.
2010 Haden has been to the Pro Bowl, and it would have been twice if he hadn't gotten busted for alderal. Pouncey? Strike three pal. you think we were going to draft a center when we already had a Pro Bowl center on the roster?
He needs to go to remedial draft history school, and learn himself up.
Someone just got "OWNED"!!! For christ sake, we all are Browns Fans. Yes, we have had a lot of let downs since 1999, but for God Sake can we stop bitching about the past, and look Forward. We are in the middle of every offensive stat this season, something we haven't seen in like forever. This team has a different attitude and I for 1 feel good. I don't post much, I love this site to read your takes and breakdowns. But, it does get old seeing the bitching about stuff that has happened in the past and no longer effects our beloved BROWNS. Sorry for the rant.
Someone just got "OWNED"!!! For christ sake, we all are Browns Fans. Yes, we have had a lot of let downs since 1999, but for God Sake can we stop bitching about the past, and look Forward. We are in the middle of every offensive stat this season, something we haven't seen in like forever. This team has a different attitude and I for 1 feel good. I don't post much, I love this site to read your takes and breakdowns. But, it does get old seeing the bitching about stuff that has happened in the past and no longer effects our beloved BROWNS. Sorry for the rant.
The only reason I did that reply is it sort of got me honked off. There were so many "what ifs" in the original post- I can say with near certainty some of them had about as much chance of happening as Browns HQ getting hit by an asteroid draft day. Plus denigrating the very few really good picks the Browns managed to get right.
Oh, you can drive yourself nuts playing the hindsight game- and I've been guilty of it myself, replying to posts as to why it's been virtually unabated suckage since 1999. I'll only name the screw up that hurts me the worst- I was all on board for this guy- and we passed him up. Wanted to play for the Browns too. He'll eventually make the HOF- his name is Ladanian Tomlinson.
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