Brian Hoyer is the reason we're losing...
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all the statistics you chose don't mean shit...the only statistic that counts is the ave. number of wins per game....right now the average nfl qb has won 1.5 games out of 3 played....hoyer has 1 out of 3...so he's below average in the only stat that means anything......hopefully, that will improve...but he's got to win the next game just to be an average nfl quarterback.....pretty sure that's the way pettine looks at it.....all this coming close bullshit is just that....it's winning that matters.....
Man, there are some dumb motherfuckers on this board.
Let's see..............each team has played 3 games. Half of the qbs have won 1.5 games. You must be a mathematician.
And yeah man..............the qb is the only factor in whether we win or lose. Blocked kicks don't matter. Receivers falling down doesn't matter. Missed tackles do not matter. Penalties are not significant. Corners getting fried means nothing. We only lost because of the qb. He put up great numbers, made great decisions, got rid of the ball quickly, was pretty darn accurate, showed courage in the pocket. was poised, etc...........but yeah, he is below average because of your amazing ability to divide 3 by 2. You are a real fucking genius, my man.
Man, there are some dumb motherfuckers on this board.
Let's see..............each team has played 3 games. Half of the qbs have won 1.5 games. You must be a mathematician.
And yeah man..............the qb is the only factor in whether we win or lose. Blocked kicks don't matter. Receivers falling down doesn't matter. Missed tackles do not matter. Penalties are not significant. Corners getting fried means nothing. We only lost because of the qb. He put up great numbers, made great decisions, got rid of the ball quickly, was pretty darn accurate, showed courage in the pocket. was poised, etc...........but yeah, he is below average because of your amazing ability to divide 3 by 2. You are a real fucking genius, my man.
no idiot...even the mentally challenged, like yourself, must know you can't win a half a game....it's an average moron....after 3 games each team has won an average of 1.5 games.....the browns, with hoyer, have won 1 game, 1 is less than the average....i know this is deep...but stay with it...maybe it will eventually sink in.....
and you're right....all those other statistics don't mean shit if you're not winning...it doesn't make any difference how fucking fast hoyer gets rid of the ball if he keeps losing more games than he wins.....
as it turns out, the browns are about to play the 4 shittiest teams in football and they should win all of them....if they do, their winning percentage will go up and their winning percentage will be "better than average." hey...you guys can continue to cream over how great hoyer is, now that the one stat that actually means anything is looking good....
the problem is, then we start playing decent teams again....if hoyer keeps winning, that's great. if he goes back to winning one out of every three, the season's lost and the browns miss the playoffs again.....
the bottom line is that hoyer hasn't proven he's a consistent winner....until he does he's just a 'looks good on paper' loser.....and this has nothing to do with manziel btw....it's true even if manziel isn't even on the team...the name of the game is winning....not that bullshit you're spewing....
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Facts and logic do not work on the johhny cock suckers. There's no hope for them.
With all the years that have passed and all of the Browns starting QB's and all of those draft pix, CLE finally has a real NFL quality starting QB, and a future starter in a draft pick. One of doze guyz is gonna start for some other team next year. When it rains it pours.
However, I will fault Hoyer for not blocking Suggs on that double reverse.
That was his assignment.
The CBS announcers tried to give him a free pass on that but I say, if the QB is to pussy to throw an assigned block, then don't run the play.
I seen Roethlisberger throw that same block on many occasions.
Welcome to the NFL Hoyer.
If yur gonna compete in this division then block that Raven like a Steeler.
If yur not gonna compete, then you will find yurself in last place,
again,
and again.
Oh, I guess that's where you are already.
Then never mind.
However, I will fault Hoyer for not blocking Suggs on that double reverse.
That was his assignment.
I guarantee you it was not...
Otherwise... good post...
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Facts and logic do not work on the johhny cock suckers. There's no hope for them.
With all the years that have passed and all of the Browns starting QB's and all of those draft pix, CLE finally has a real NFL quality starting QB, and a future starter in a draft pick. One of doze guyz is gonna start for some other team next year. When it rains it pours.
However, I will fault Hoyer for not blocking Suggs on that double reverse.
That was his assignment.
The CBS announcers tried to give him a free pass on that but I say, if the QB is to pussy to throw an assigned block, then don't run the play.
I seen Roethlisberger throw that same block on many occasions.
Welcome to the NFL Hoyer.
If yur gonna compete in this division then block that Raven like a Steeler.
If yur not gonna compete, then you will find yurself in last place,
again,
and again.
Oh, I guess that's where you are already.
Then never mind.
With all the years that have passed and all of the Browns starting QB's and all of those draft pix, CLE finally has a real NFL quality starting QB, and a future starter in a draft pick. One of doze guyz is gonna start for some other team next year. When it rains it pours.
However, I will fault Hoyer for not blocking Suggs on that double reverse.
That was his assignment.
The CBS announcers tried to give him a free pass on that but I say, if the QB is to pussy to throw an assigned block, then don't run the play.
I seen Roethlisberger throw that same block on many occasions.
Welcome to the NFL Hoyer.
If yur gonna compete in this division then block that Raven like a Steeler.
If yur not gonna compete, then you will find yurself in last place,
again,
and again.
Oh, I guess that's where you are already.
Then never mind.
I can guarantee that was not Hoyer's assignment, just as it's not Roethlisberger's.
No (smart) coach will ever task his QB to block on any play, especially not on anyone in the front 7. I've been around the game of football for a long time and I've never once heard a coach tell a QB to block. I have heard them say "get in the way", "try to draw a flag" and also "lay down and don't move".
Roethlisberger throws that block not because he was asked to, but because that's the type of player he is. Not saying Hoyer doesn't possess that sort of passion, but Roethlisberger is just a tenacious, in-your-face type player. It also doesn't hurt that he's roughly the same size as most linebackers.
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With all the years that have passed and all of the Browns starting QB's and all of those draft pix, CLE finally has a real NFL quality starting QB, and a future starter in a draft pick. One of doze guyz is gonna start for some other team next year. When it rains it pours.
However, I will fault Hoyer for not blocking Suggs on that double reverse.
That was his assignment.
The CBS announcers tried to give him a free pass on that but I say, if the QB is to pussy to throw an assigned block, then don't run the play.
I seen Roethlisberger throw that same block on many occasions.
Welcome to the NFL Hoyer.
If yur gonna compete in this division then block that Raven like a Steeler.
If yur not gonna compete, then you will find yurself in last place,
again,
and again.
Oh, I guess that's where you are already.
Then never mind.
I can guarantee that was not Hoyer's assignment, just as it's not Roethlisberger's.
No (smart) coach will ever task his QB to block on any play, especially not on anyone in the front 7. I've been around the game of football for a long time and I've never once heard a coach tell a QB to block. I have heard them say "get in the way", "try to draw a flag" and also "lay down and don't move".
Roethlisberger throws that block not because he was asked to, but because that's the type of player he is. Not saying Hoyer doesn't possess that sort of passion, but Roethlisberger is just a tenacious, in-your-face type player. It also doesn't hurt that he's roughly the same size as most linebackers.
I can guarantee that was not Hoyer's assignment...
Too late... beat you by 6 minutes...
But if you'd like to underwrite my guarantee, give me a ring...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I can guarantee that was not Hoyer's assignment...
Too late... beat you by 6 minutes...
But if you'd like to underwrite my guarantee, give me a ring...
Too late... beat you by 6 minutes...
But if you'd like to underwrite my guarantee, give me a ring...
Fair enough.
I'll have to be quicker on the take next time.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
I just said this same thing to my brother on a short ride in the car today. Seriously how the F does our OC not know a play he puts in and spends practice time on is illegal?? That is some dime store amateur crap
Actually, it would have worked, if West hadn't moved. The Refs weren't aware of the rule, and the play would have stood. As to a HS play-- see below.
.. or our HC... or...
I think it was Wilbon that called it a High School play today on PTI.
Play like a Brown needs to start with Play-calling like a Brown.
So for the short attention spans, let me remind you the Bengals beat the Browns a few years back on a trick play- (Browns D fell asleep, remember?) And they pulled another one this past Sunday.
And my 0.02- trick plays have been part of the game since"The Statue of Liberty". If you can get a cheap score using one, more power to ya. Or you want to make onside kicks, fake punts & field goals illegal too?
Actually, it would have worked, if West hadn't moved. The Refs weren't aware of the rule, and the play would have stood. As to a HS play-- see below.
So for the short attention spans, let me remind you the Bengals beat the Browns a few years back on a trick play- (Browns D fell asleep, remember?) And they pulled another one this past Sunday.
And my 0.02- trick plays have been part of the game since"The Statue of Liberty". If you can get a cheap score using one, more power to ya. Or you want to make onside kicks, fake punts & field goals illegal too?
Excellent points.
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Fair enough.
I'll have to be quicker on the take next time.
No problem, my friend...
Where are you posting these days? Even Fact-o-Sad seems abandoned...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Fair enough.
I'll have to be quicker on the take next time.
No problem, my friend...
Where are you posting these days? Even Fact-o-Sad seems abandoned...
No problem, my friend...
Where are you posting these days? Even Fact-o-Sad seems abandoned...
Haven't been posting much of anywhere, I'm afraid. Career got in the way. Our firm is rapidly expanding so I've been preoccupied.
Plus, I was very wrong about Hoyer and I am eating my required crow...and enjoying the ride.
Things settle down for 'round week 10, so I'm sure you'll see a lot more of me 'round then.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
2 losses with drive killing incompletions in the last couple of minutes. Possibly not his fault but...
(probably should never have gotten to that point.)
WSS
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Also could someone explain to me how the trick play was illegal? Why did the refs cite West and not JM or the bench if it was illegal?
Apparently you're not allowed to line up within 15(?) yards of the sidelines when in front of the benches - that is, within the 30 yard lines.
I'd never heard of the rule, and the refs basically forgot about it, I think.
Apparently you're not allowed to line up within 15(?) yards of the sidelines when in front of the benches - that is, within the 30 yard lines.
It's 5 yards, not 15. And "between the 30's" is significant because a team's bench players, coaches, etc. "must" remain between the 30's.
Put them together and basically it's a camouflage rule meant to keep teams from "hiding" on-field players in the mass of sideline personnel... and, yes, it's stupid...
Hoyer is playing very very well...
He's going to make a nice buck if he can play like this all season.
Forgot about his play without a contract gambit... looking pretty smart so far.
... engagement is up....it's done its job.
Who got engaged?
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No problem, my friend...
Where are you posting these days? Even Fact-o-Sad seems abandoned...
Haven't been posting much of anywhere, I'm afraid. Career got in the way. Our firm is rapidly expanding so I've been preoccupied.
Plus, I was very wrong about Hoyer and I am eating my required crow...and enjoying the ride.
Things settle down for 'round week 10, so I'm sure you'll see a lot more of me 'round then.
Career got in the way. Our firm is rapidly expanding so I've been preoccupied.
Good "problem" to have.
See you later...
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