Changes / Improvements during the Bye-Week
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More back on topic...
Apparently those of us looking for Pettine to be more hands-on in calling the D in-game will not have our wish granted.
"The Browns will devote part of the bye week to improving their surprisingly porous defense.
Just about all options are under consideration except for who makes the defensive calls and how they arrive at them."
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/09/cleveland_browns_coach_mike_pe_6.html
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More back on topic...
Apparently those of us looking for Pettine to be more hands-on in calling the D in-game will not have our wish granted.
"The Browns will devote part of the bye week to improving their surprisingly porous defense.
Just about all options are under consideration except for who makes the defensive calls and how they arrive at them."
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/09/cleveland_browns_coach_mike_pe_6.html
More back on topic...
Apparently those of us looking for Pettine to be more hands-on in calling the D in-game will not have our wish granted.
"The Browns will devote part of the bye week to improving their surprisingly porous defense.
Just about all options are under consideration except for who makes the defensive calls and how they arrive at them."
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/09/cleveland_browns_coach_mike_pe_6.html
Pettine will just stand over the DC's shoulder and whisper the plays into his ear so we can all pretend like the DC is still making the calls.
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My bye week adjustments would be:
* Come out featuring Crowell for one game and see if he explodes. 20 plus carries. Just once. Please.
* Use Gilbert on punt returns. Benji has lost it and Gilbert can be great. Plus, he needs to earn his keep and build a little self confidence.
* Use Johnny as the new holder on extra points and FG's. Creates a whole new dimension and get's his head in the game. Plus, they'd have to account for him....and that would sure as hell cut down on the rush and give our guy a chance to get the kick off
* Keep Skrine as the starter. He's earned it and is playing pretty good ball.
* Just start Kirksey. The time is now, while we're still working thru the problems on D(not after). He's the future and can be an every down LB with a little experience. And Robinson is so very average, with little upside.
* Keep Sheard as your starter. He has been exceptional compared to what Mingo was giving us. Use Mingo to rest players or for passing situations only.
* Get that D line in synch. I dont know WHAT their problem is. The talent is there. Not sure if it's scheme, execution or effort, but they need to work it out ....... soon would be nice....
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Dear Mr. Pettine:
The BB would like you to consider the following changes / improvements to the time during the Bye-week:
1) replace Mingo as a starter with Sheard (accountability)
2) review films of last year to determine why we've digressed in defending the run. I hope it's not Jackson/Ward. Jim O'Neil needs to fix things fast!!
3) get the CB's back to work on the basic fundamentals of receiver coverage
4) replace Benji on punt returns (accountability)
5) find out why every field goal or POT snap is inaccurate - Christian Yount may be an issue
6) look into a possible replacement for Billy Cundiff either now or at the end of the season
7) fire Chris Tabor immediately and start making people realize accountability matters
the team needs to rebound against Tennessee - make sure that they realize the critical importance of this game. Lose to the Titans and the two weeks would have been wasted. There must be a sense of urgency to fix our issues! BB fans, please add you suggestions to this list
Very good! Billy Cundiff needs to be replaced as soon as possible. There are kickers out there.Dear Mr. Pettine:
The BB would like you to consider the following changes / improvements to the time during the Bye-week:
1) replace Mingo as a starter with Sheard (accountability)
2) review films of last year to determine why we've digressed in defending the run. I hope it's not Jackson/Ward. Jim O'Neil needs to fix things fast!!
3) get the CB's back to work on the basic fundamentals of receiver coverage
4) replace Benji on punt returns (accountability)
5) find out why every field goal or POT snap is inaccurate - Christian Yount may be an issue
6) look into a possible replacement for Billy Cundiff either now or at the end of the season
7) fire Chris Tabor immediately and start making people realize accountability matters
the team needs to rebound against Tennessee - make sure that they realize the critical importance of this game. Lose to the Titans and the two weeks would have been wasted. There must be a sense of urgency to fix our issues! BB fans, please add you suggestions to this list
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My bye week adjustments would be:
* Come out featuring Crowell for one game and see if he explodes. 20 plus carries. Just once. Please.
* Use Gilbert on punt returns. Benji has lost it and Gilbert can be great. Plus, he needs to earn his keep and build a little self confidence.
* Use Johnny as the new holder on extra points and FG's. Creates a whole new dimension and get's his head in the game. Plus, they'd have to account for him....and that would sure as hell cut down on the rush and give our guy a chance to get the kick off
* Keep Skrine as the starter. He's earned it and is playing pretty good ball.
* Just start Kirksey. The time is now, while we're still working thru the problems on D(not after). He's the future and can be an every down LB with a little experience. And Robinson is so very average, with little upside.
* Keep Sheard as your starter. He has been exceptional compared to what Mingo was giving us. Use Mingo to rest players or for passing situations only.
* Get that D line in synch. I dont know WHAT their problem is. The talent is there. Not sure if it's scheme, execution or effort, but they need to work it out ....... soon would be nice....
I wish you were on the coaching staffMy bye week adjustments would be:
* Come out featuring Crowell for one game and see if he explodes. 20 plus carries. Just once. Please.
* Use Gilbert on punt returns. Benji has lost it and Gilbert can be great. Plus, he needs to earn his keep and build a little self confidence.
* Use Johnny as the new holder on extra points and FG's. Creates a whole new dimension and get's his head in the game. Plus, they'd have to account for him....and that would sure as hell cut down on the rush and give our guy a chance to get the kick off
* Keep Skrine as the starter. He's earned it and is playing pretty good ball.
* Just start Kirksey. The time is now, while we're still working thru the problems on D(not after). He's the future and can be an every down LB with a little experience. And Robinson is so very average, with little upside.
* Keep Sheard as your starter. He has been exceptional compared to what Mingo was giving us. Use Mingo to rest players or for passing situations only.
* Get that D line in synch. I dont know WHAT their problem is. The talent is there. Not sure if it's scheme, execution or effort, but they need to work it out ....... soon would be nice....
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I'm beginning to think that our ST and D coordinators may need to be upgraded during the off-season. Our coach shouldn't do two jobs (didn't we already make that mistake) and we definitely have the talent on those two units.
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Too early to talk Coord. changes IMO... long way to go yet.
ST Coord. is on his third (?) regime now, I believe. So he has done something right. Tinkering with personnel is underway and ought to suffice.
Pettine's choice to take the reins to Pettine's D is O'Neil. That is not going to change after one season... and personally I would not want it to. I'm more than willing to invest a year in a DC's (and a D scheme's) growth to reap dividends down the line.
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Well, it's a win now league and those coordinators need to demonstrate their ability to coach players and a system that works. I'm just not seeing that right now. Everything on D is not working right now. Running, passing, pass rush, it all needs to get a lot better because I'm not that invested in O'Neil.
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I can't agree with starting Sheard and Kruger at the same time unless you're convinced the team you're facing runs on early downs. Both players aren't very good in space and them dropping into a hook/ curl/flat defense is especially frightening.
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As much as it pains me to say this, start Johnny Football. I don't think this team will win any more than 6 games this season and I want to see him make it or fail going into next year so the circus will be only one year.
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Our offense is not the issue.
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As much as it pains me to say this, start Johnny Football. I don't think this team will win any more than 6 games this season and I want to see him make it or fail going into next year so the circus will be only one year.
As much as it pains me to say this, start Johnny Football. I don't think this team will win any more than 6 games this season and I want to see him make it or fail going into next year so the circus will be only one year.
Clearly it did not pain you enough...
I can't agree with starting Sheard and Kruger at the same time unless you're convinced the team you're facing runs on early downs.
Simultaneous Sheard + Krugs would be damn close to fielding a 5-man line...
Last time I can remember that as a base D in a game would be all the way back in George Allen's days as WSH's HC... I forget who it was he sprung it on, but it shut their run game down cold.
Well, it's a win now league and those coordinators need to demonstrate their ability to coach players and a system that works. I'm just not seeing that right now. Everything on D is not working right now. Running, passing, pass rush, it all needs to get a lot better because I'm not that invested in O'Neil.
Win now? Keep changing Coord's every year and it'll be win never. And you seem unwilling to wait even a year...
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As much as it pains me to say this, start Johnny Football. I don't think this team will win any more than 6 games this season and I want to see him make it or fail going into next year so the circus will be only one year.
As much as it pains me to say this, start Johnny Football. I don't think this team will win any more than 6 games this season and I want to see him make it or fail going into next year so the circus will be only one year.
Yeah because it's the QB that is losing us games.
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As much as it pains me to say this, start Johnny Football. I don't think this team will win any more than 6 games this season and I want to see him make it or fail going into next year so the circus will be only one year.
Yeah because it's the QB that is losing us games.
Yeah because it's the QB that is losing us games.
Hoyer hasn't been the issue through 3 games but at the end of the year if Manziel hasn't played it will be a QB battle all over again and is that what this franchise needs?
I see what the Jets are going through right now giving Geno Smith his chance and it has set them back 2 years.
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I'm sitting here trying to figure out what fucking games your watching? Have you watched a Browns game yet this season?
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I'm sitting here trying to figure out what fucking games your watching? Have you watched a Browns game yet this season?
I'm sitting here trying to figure out what fucking games your watching? Have you watched a Browns game yet this season?
Do you think they drafted Manziel to sit him indefinitely? At some point he is going to play. I'd rather have him get his shot at 1-2 with obvious problems on this team then have Hoyer go 6-10 and then see Johnny start 1-3 next year.
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Yeah because it's the QB that is losing us games.
Hoyer hasn't been the issue through 3 games but at the end of the year if Manziel hasn't played it will be a QB battle all over again and is that what this franchise needs?
I see what the Jets are going through right now giving Geno Smith his chance and it has set them back 2 years.
Hoyer hasn't been the issue through 3 games but at the end of the year if Manziel hasn't played it will be a QB battle all over again and is that what this franchise needs?
I see what the Jets are going through right now giving Geno Smith his chance and it has set them back 2 years.
If the offense continues to play like this, in particular Hoyer, I hope we never see Manziel play.
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Hoyer hasn't been the issue through 3 games but at the end of the year if Manziel hasn't played it will be a QB battle all over again and is that what this franchise needs?
I see what the Jets are going through right now giving Geno Smith his chance and it has set them back 2 years.
If the offense continues to play like this, in particular Hoyer, I hope we never see Manziel play.
If the offense continues to play like this, in particular Hoyer, I hope we never see Manziel play.
I'd love this to be true but traditionally, and maybe this is where the new Browns will be different, a QB drafted in the 1st round plays in his first 2 seasons.
This has been true of everyone except for Aaron Rodgers in the last 10 years but he was sitting behind a hall of famer and face of the franchise
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If the offense continues to play like this, in particular Hoyer, I hope we never see Manziel play.
I'd love this to be true but traditionally, and maybe this is where the new Browns will be different, a QB drafted in the 1st round plays in his first 2 seasons.
This has been true of everyone except for Aaron Rodgers in the last 10 years but he was sitting behind a hall of famer and face of the franchise
I'd love this to be true but traditionally, and maybe this is where the new Browns will be different, a QB drafted in the 1st round plays in his first 2 seasons.
This has been true of everyone except for Aaron Rodgers in the last 10 years but he was sitting behind a hall of famer and face of the franchise
Hell, trade him tomorrow to the Vikings...they're on their 3rd string QB now. I'm sure they'd give us something good for him.
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I'd love this to be true but traditionally, and maybe this is where the new Browns will be different, a QB drafted in the 1st round plays in his first 2 seasons.
This has been true of everyone except for Aaron Rodgers in the last 10 years but he was sitting behind a hall of famer and face of the franchise
Hell, trade him tomorrow to the Vikings...they're on their 3rd string QB now. I'm sure they'd give us something good for him.
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