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  • In any case any talk about sitting him or whatnot is Retarded, Kruger and Sheard need to be spelled, we actually need to pick up a 4th OLB'er

  • Mingo tripped over his shoelace and will be day to day.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
  • W Westside Steve

    Courtney Brown.

    🙁

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Courtney Brown.

    🙁

    WSS

    1987 first round pick OLB Mike Junkin. Played in twenty games in his NFL career. And the Browns traded up to get him.
    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
  • Opal312O Opal312

    @westside-steve said:

    Courtney Brown.

    🙁

    WSS

    1987 first round pick OLB Mike Junkin. Played in twenty games in his NFL career. And the Browns traded up to get him.

    @opal312 said:

    1987 first round pick OLB Mike Junkin. Played in twenty games in his NFL career. And the Browns traded up to get him.

    Mike Junkin: Mad Dog in a meat market. I always wondered if the football was made out of beef or pork, would he have been great? I think so.

  • ManzierM Manzier

    @opal312 said:

    1987 first round pick OLB Mike Junkin. Played in twenty games in his NFL career. And the Browns traded up to get him.

    Mike Junkin: Mad Dog in a meat market. I always wondered if the football was made out of beef or pork, would he have been great? I think so.

    @manzier said:

    Mike Junkin: Mad Dog in a meat market. I always wondered if the football was made out of beef or pork, would he have been great? I think so.

    Footballs are made of pork. (Or were)

    😉

    WSS

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  • Add Mingo to the long line of Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Kamerion Wimbley, etc.

  • From ESPN 10/1:

    What's for lunch?: Under the last Browns regime, Barkevious Mingo was drafted sixth overall for the role of coordinator Ray Horton’s top pass rusher. The day Mingo was introduced, his mom was in attendance and offered up the money quote when she said, playing to the euphoria of the day, “He likes to eat quarterbacks.”

    In Mingo’s second NFL season, his appetite has changed. Or, rather, it has been changed for him.

    In this age of defensive substitution, Mingo unofficially is now an outside linebacker “coverage specialist.”

    Mingo missed Game 2 against New Orleans with a shoulder injury. In his other two appearances, the stat sheet shows Mingo with eight tackles. Nothing else there, no sacks, no turnovers forced.

    “We haven’t had him in a lot of situations where he’s had an opportunity to get sacks,” said coach Mike Pettine. “We’ve used (Jabaal) Sheard and (Paul) Kruger more in passing situations. Again, it falls back to not reading too much into statistics and a guy filling the grade sheet with plusses. That’s what’s most important to us.

    “There are times where a guy won’t necessarily have production, but they’ll cause production. That comes with doing your job. That’s a big emphasis for us this week. Our mantra in all phases is do your job and good things will happen.”

    When Mingo was drafted, Pettine was defensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills, and the story told was that he and Jim O’Neil – then Buffalo’s linebackers coach and now Pettine’s coordinator – tried to sell their team on selecting Mingo. The Bills traded down and eventually took quarterback E.J. Manuel (ouch).

    Pettine said he likes Mingo better in coverage because he is a little better at it than Kruger or Sheard.

    “I see him as having the ability to do both (cover and rush),” Pettine said. “We evaluated him over the other two in his drop ability. It’s close with Mingo probably being the best, Kruger second and Jabaal third as far as ability to drop. The Sam linebacker is a very important position for us from a coverage standpoint. That’s just the way we decided to proceed with that rotation.”

  • Whatever they're doing has them ranked 31st in the NFL, so it isn't working.

  • precisely, I like the idea of using him in coverage...but also have him get after the qb in long ydge situations. It's what he does.

  • I find it strange why the coaching staff is asking him to drop more into coverage than rushing the passer. I won't discount his athletic ability being greater than Kruger or Sheard's - but that doesn't always translate to being an instinctive cover linebacker.

    The kid has done nothing but have his hand in the ground and scream off the ball at opposing QB's nearly his entire football career. The staff is essentially asking him to do the opposite of that this season. If you've played the game at any position, you know that going from a down rush end, to a stand up linebacker is a bitch. Toss in having increased coverage responsibilities and I can't blame the kid for not wowing anyone.... Yet.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    I find it strange why the coaching staff is asking him to drop more into coverage than rushing the passer. I won't discount his athletic ability being greater than Kruger or Sheard's - but that doesn't always translate to being an instinctive cover linebacker.

    The kid has done nothing but have his hand in the ground and scream off the ball at opposing QB's nearly his entire football career. The staff is essentially asking him to do the opposite of that this season. If you've played the game at any position, you know that going from a down rush end, to a stand up linebacker is a bitch. Toss in having increased coverage responsibilities and I can't blame the kid for not wowing anyone.... Yet.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I find it strange why the coaching staff is asking him to drop more into coverage than rushing the passer. I won't discount his athletic ability being greater than Kruger or Sheard's - but that doesn't always translate to being an instinctive cover linebacker.

    Better at coverage than Kruger or Sheard would not exactly be a ringing endorsement of anyone's coverage ability...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @tiamat63 said:

    I find it strange why the coaching staff is asking him to drop more into coverage than rushing the passer. I won't discount his athletic ability being greater than Kruger or Sheard's - but that doesn't always translate to being an instinctive cover linebacker.

    Better at coverage than Kruger or Sheard would not exactly be a ringing endorsement of anyone's coverage ability...

    @tour2ma said:

    Better at coverage than Kruger or Sheard would not exactly be a ringing endorsement of anyone's coverage ability...

    Of course it isn't. However when your best option at OLB dropping into coverage is a kid that's only in his second year and the position - that presents a very serious issue.

  • Just when you think Mike Lombardi's draft record can't get any worse we have the 6th overall pick in the draft playing as a part time cover linebacker in his second year.

    Zombo

    --Leon McFadden already cut by two teams in his second year, the third should be coming soon ...

  • Z Zombo

    Just when you think Mike Lombardi's draft record can't get any worse we have the 6th overall pick in the draft playing as a part time cover linebacker in his second year.

    Zombo

    --Leon McFadden already cut by two teams in his second year, the third should be coming soon ...

    Zombo said:

    Just when you think Mike Lombardi's draft record can't get any worse we have the 6th overall pick in the draft playing as a part time cover linebacker in his second year.

    Zombo

    --Leon McFadden already cut by two teams in his second year, the third should be coming soon ...

    Wait, did the Browns cut McFadden? I thought he was still with us here. (and I guess we are shed of Gilkey as well?)

    Is it fair to say that Armonty Bryant, so far has been the best pick of that draft?

    (though, remember, the Browns twice traded picks in that draft for picks in this year's draft......who did we get with those two picks? I believe either Kirksey or West has to be one....who else?

    ManzierM Tour2maT 2 Replies
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Zombo said:

    Just when you think Mike Lombardi's draft record can't get any worse we have the 6th overall pick in the draft playing as a part time cover linebacker in his second year.

    Zombo

    --Leon McFadden already cut by two teams in his second year, the third should be coming soon ...

    Wait, did the Browns cut McFadden? I thought he was still with us here. (and I guess we are shed of Gilkey as well?)

    Is it fair to say that Armonty Bryant, so far has been the best pick of that draft?

    (though, remember, the Browns twice traded picks in that draft for picks in this year's draft......who did we get with those two picks? I believe either Kirksey or West has to be one....who else?

    @the-gipper said:

    Wait, did the Browns cut McFadden? I thought he was still with us here. (and I guess we are shed of Gilkey as well?)

    Is it fair to say that Armonty Bryant, so far has been the best pick of that draft?

    (though, remember, the Browns twice traded picks in that draft for picks in this year's draft......who did we get with those two picks? I believe either Kirksey or West has to be one....who else?

    yes. Then the Jets picked him up and played him. Then they cut him. now hes with the niners.

  • ManzierM Manzier

    @the-gipper said:

    Wait, did the Browns cut McFadden? I thought he was still with us here. (and I guess we are shed of Gilkey as well?)

    Is it fair to say that Armonty Bryant, so far has been the best pick of that draft?

    (though, remember, the Browns twice traded picks in that draft for picks in this year's draft......who did we get with those two picks? I believe either Kirksey or West has to be one....who else?

    yes. Then the Jets picked him up and played him. Then they cut him. now hes with the niners.

    @manzier said:

    yes. Then the Jets picked him up and played him. Then they cut him. now hes with the niners.

    And what about Jamoris....not Webster... Slaughter? He ain't here. I don't see where he has been picked up by anyone.

    Where I see that Gilkey is at least with the Buccaneers.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @manzier said:

    yes. Then the Jets picked him up and played him. Then they cut him. now hes with the niners.

    And what about Jamoris....not Webster... Slaughter? He ain't here. I don't see where he has been picked up by anyone.

    Where I see that Gilkey is at least with the Buccaneers.

    @the-gipper said:

    And what about Jamoris....not Webster... Slaughter? He ain't here. I don't see where he has been picked up by anyone.

    Where I see that Gilkey is at least with the Buccaneers.

    They cut JS outright. way early to, during camp I think. They tried to place Gilkey on the ps, but he was claimed off waivers. I think we wished he wasn't, but knew he would be.

  • ManzierM Manzier

    @the-gipper said:

    And what about Jamoris....not Webster... Slaughter? He ain't here. I don't see where he has been picked up by anyone.

    Where I see that Gilkey is at least with the Buccaneers.

    They cut JS outright. way early to, during camp I think. They tried to place Gilkey on the ps, but he was claimed off waivers. I think we wished he wasn't, but knew he would be.

    @manzier said:

    They cut JS outright. way early to, during camp I think. They tried to place Gilkey on the ps, but he was claimed off waivers. I think we wished he wasn't, but knew he would be.

    Bitonio certainly made him expendable....plus I see on the roster they have backup OL in Paul McQuistan and Vinston Painter on the regular roster, plus Ryan Seymour on the PS.

    Though....did Gilkey get in and help the Bucs who picked Gilkey up beat the Squibs Sunday?

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Zombo said:

    Just when you think Mike Lombardi's draft record can't get any worse we have the 6th overall pick in the draft playing as a part time cover linebacker in his second year.

    Zombo

    --Leon McFadden already cut by two teams in his second year, the third should be coming soon ...

    Wait, did the Browns cut McFadden? I thought he was still with us here. (and I guess we are shed of Gilkey as well?)

    Is it fair to say that Armonty Bryant, so far has been the best pick of that draft?

    (though, remember, the Browns twice traded picks in that draft for picks in this year's draft......who did we get with those two picks? I believe either Kirksey or West has to be one....who else?

    @the-gipper said:

    Wait, did the Browns cut McFadden? I thought he was still with us here. (and I guess we are shed of Gilkey as well?)

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/transactions.html

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @manzier said:

    They cut JS outright. way early to, during camp I think. They tried to place Gilkey on the ps, but he was claimed off waivers. I think we wished he wasn't, but knew he would be.

    Bitonio certainly made him expendable....plus I see on the roster they have backup OL in Paul McQuistan and Vinston Painter on the regular roster, plus Ryan Seymour on the PS.

    Though....did Gilkey get in and help the Bucs who picked Gilkey up beat the Squibs Sunday?

    @the-gipper said:

    Bitonio certainly made him expendable....plus I see on the roster they have backup OL in Paul McQuistan and Vinston Painter on the regular roster, plus Ryan Seymour on the PS.

    Though....did Gilkey get in and help the Bucs who picked Gilkey up beat the Squibs Sunday?

    I think they had both Gilkey and Oniel Cousins on that OL, making it even more hilarious that they beat the steelers.

    @the-gipper said:

    Wait, did the Browns cut McFadden? I thought he was still with us here. (and I guess we are shed of Gilkey as well?)

    Is it fair to say that Armonty Bryant, so far has been the best pick of that draft?

    (though, remember, the Browns twice traded picks in that draft for picks in this year's draft......who did we get with those two picks? I believe either Kirksey or West has to be one....who else?

    we got a 3rd and 4th rounder, which got packaged around a bit. I think one got parlayed in to West though, yes. I *think* the 4th was from Indy, which would put it at number 26, which I *think* is where we got Desir.

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