Gilbert in the first round?
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Tim Couch beat the Ravens and Steelers when those defense's were in their prime. With a terrible terribl terrible farce of an offensive line. I will always have a soft spot for Tim. Being in Cleveland really did ruin his career.
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and you're a dick.
if couch would have had even a zintilla of an offensive line who knows how good he could of been. talk about bad drafting around a player.
Not saying he is a horrible person or that he was put in a good situation but you draft a QB #1 and he ends up with Tim Couch's resume he's a bust.
Not saying he is a horrible person or that he was put in a good situation but you draft a QB #1 and he ends up with Tim Couch's resume he's a bust.
Players do get hurt and can be put into impossible situations(like couch or C. Brown) and can ultimately be considered busts.....Ill agree to that.......and I can consider Couch a bust, because he was never great.....I just can't say he was the wrong pick. I think it's more obvious that we were the wrong team.
But a "bust" is not necessarily the fault of the GM or where a player got picked. Nor does it mean they were bad picks or bad players. No one can predict when an injury will happen and it certainly isnt the GM's fault when it does.....and when your team completely sucks, it's hard to look good, even if you are good......
Maybe if the Browns picked McNabb, we would be discussing how terrible(and fragile) he was and why didnt we picked Couch????......you never know.....
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Tim Couch beat the Ravens and Steelers when those defense's were in their prime. With a terrible terribl terrible farce of an offensive line. I will always have a soft spot for Tim. Being in Cleveland really did ruin his career.
Being in Cleveland really did ruin his career.
Yeah... and it was not just a '99 effort, but a continuous one.
We did not draft a single O-lineman in '99, '00 or '01.
In '02 we spent a 7th round pick on OT, Joaquin Gonzalez, to celebrate the beginning of the end of the Couch era...
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Tim Couch beat the Ravens and Steelers when those defense's were in their prime. With a terrible terribl terrible farce of an offensive line. I will always have a soft spot for Tim. Being in Cleveland really did ruin his career.
Tim Couch beat the Ravens and Steelers when those defense's were in their prime. With a terrible terribl terrible farce of an offensive line. I will always have a soft spot for Tim. Being in Cleveland really did ruin his career.
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Not saying he is a horrible person or that he was put in a good situation but you draft a QB #1 and he ends up with Tim Couch's resume he's a bust.
Players do get hurt and can be put into impossible situations(like couch or C. Brown) and can ultimately be considered busts.....Ill agree to that.......and I can consider Couch a bust, because he was never great.....I just can't say he was the wrong pick. I think it's more obvious that we were the wrong team.
But a "bust" is not necessarily the fault of the GM or where a player got picked. Nor does it mean they were bad picks or bad players. No one can predict when an injury will happen and it certainly isnt the GM's fault when it does.....and when your team completely sucks, it's hard to look good, even if you are good......
Maybe if the Browns picked McNabb, we would be discussing how terrible(and fragile) he was and why didnt we picked Couch????......you never know.....
Players do get hurt and can be put into impossible situations(like couch or C. Brown) and can ultimately be considered busts.....Ill agree to that.......and I can consider Couch a bust, because he was never great.....I just can't say he was the wrong pick. I think it's more obvious that we were the wrong team.
But a "bust" is not necessarily the fault of the GM or where a player got picked. Nor does it mean they were bad picks or bad players. No one can predict when an injury will happen and it certainly isnt the GM's fault when it does.....and when your team completely sucks, it's hard to look good, even if you are good......
Maybe if the Browns picked McNabb, we would be discussing how terrible(and fragile) he was and why didnt we picked Couch????......you never know.....
Yup, MHO- you have to differentiate between "lousy player" (Jamarcus Russell & Ryan Leaf) busts, and "injury" busts. KI-Jana Carter is the prime example there.The Browns Lawyer Tillman comes to mind. Who knows how good Knievel Winslow could have been if he hadn't been trying to do wheelies on a crotch rocket? Had a semi-decent career playing on a shot knee.. RG Knee is one ACL away from joining that list. I think Sam Bradford is knocking on the door of the Club too.
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Tim Couch beat the Ravens and Steelers when those defense's were in their prime. With a terrible terribl terrible farce of an offensive line. I will always have a soft spot for Tim. Being in Cleveland really did ruin his career.
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WSS
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WSS
my Couch jersey is still hanging in my closet..14 years later i still have it...
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Gilbert to Couch??? another thread gone sideways
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Players do get hurt and can be put into impossible situations(like couch or C. Brown) and can ultimately be considered busts.....Ill agree to that.......and I can consider Couch a bust, because he was never great.....I just can't say he was the wrong pick. I think it's more obvious that we were the wrong team.
But a "bust" is not necessarily the fault of the GM or where a player got picked. Nor does it mean they were bad picks or bad players. No one can predict when an injury will happen and it certainly isnt the GM's fault when it does.....and when your team completely sucks, it's hard to look good, even if you are good......
Maybe if the Browns picked McNabb, we would be discussing how terrible(and fragile) he was and why didnt we picked Couch????......you never know.....
Yup, MHO- you have to differentiate between "lousy player" (Jamarcus Russell & Ryan Leaf) busts, and "injury" busts. KI-Jana Carter is the prime example there.The Browns Lawyer Tillman comes to mind. Who knows how good Knievel Winslow could have been if he hadn't been trying to do wheelies on a crotch rocket? Had a semi-decent career playing on a shot knee.. RG Knee is one ACL away from joining that list. I think Sam Bradford is knocking on the door of the Club too.
Yup, MHO- you have to differentiate between "lousy player" (Jamarcus Russell & Ryan Leaf) busts, and "injury" busts.
Yup... two words... Greg Cook.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-top-ten/09000d5d807434bc/Top-Ten-One-Shot-Wonders-Greg-Cook
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