Fuck yeah the Clowns are back!

[miktoxic]

@clevfan4life said:

I'll judge Pettine after 3 years when he's had the time to put the personnel in that suit his system. These guys are half assed tbh. The front seven has been getting piped on the run since day 1 so this is what they've been working on the whole season.....and have absolutely nothing to show for it. They have not made one single ounce of progress against run defense since opening day.

man i hope he makes it that long. just for shits and giggles why was our defense ranked so high last year or the year before with less talent? could it be the scheme?

well if that's the case, why employ that scheme? didn't we have sheard last year at this point with like 6 sacks? and mingo, the guy they would have sold their soul for in buffalo is here and you have him dropping back like a tall CB/OLB? the dude never played that position in his life. i mean really.

fuck the traditional scheme. put the talent you have in the best position to make plays. period. and that is pettine. and that is o'neill. and that is shanahan.

[TopDawg31]

@bbedward said:

Best showing of the year probably. But it was against Jacksonville... There were at least two passes that should have been big completions (one of them in the end zone), where Bortles just missed.

was that the one where Haden got faked out of his jock strap?

[Soju]

@clevfan4life said:

Going for it on 4th for no reason at all, balls bouncing off of facemasks on punt returns, ridiculous botched plays where no one on the offense has a singular clue on what was supposed to happen....did I miss anything?

FFS, this Clownie revival act better be for one night and one night only. The fuck did I watch today? Seriously, was that football?

this was ALL on Brian Hoyer today, he's garbage.

[BaconHound]

If I'm getting angry at the team it's not the Clowns, it's the Stains

[nickers]

@soju said:

this was ALL on Brian Hoyer today, he's garbage.

No,,, your garbage.

[hoorta]

@soju said:

this was ALL on Brian Hoyer today, he's garbage.

Did you not notice the bad, BAD decision on 4th down? the muffed punt? The dropped passes on the rare occasions Hoyer's passes were on target? OK, you put Brady on the Browns today- we win easily. Too bad Tom's not on the roster.

@nickers said:

No,,, your garbage.

[Tour2ma]

@clevfan4life said:

I'll judge Pettine after 3 years when he's had the time to put the personnel in that suit his system. These guys are half assed tbh. The front seven has been getting piped on the run since day 1 so this is what they've been working on the whole season.....and have absolutely nothing to show for it. They have not made one single ounce of progress against run defense since opening day.

Two things:

1. The entirety of the off-season talk was about how Pettine fits schemes to players.

2. If the players we have can't be productive, why have there been no trades?

@soju said:

this was ALL on Brian Hoyer today, he's garbage.

Attagirl...

[TopDawg31]

@hoorta said:

Did you not notice the bad, BAD decision on 4th down? the muffed punt? The dropped passes on the rare occasions Hoyer's passes were on target? OK, you put Brady on the Browns today- we win easily. Too bad Tom's not on the roster.

thare were two bad coaching decisions on 4th down, on the road you must take the points. And the other, why the fuck did Greco snap the ball when there wasn't even a play called according to Tate, they were just supposed to try and get them to jump.

[Xanthros]

@topdawg31 said:

thare were two bad coaching decisions on 4th down, on the road you must take the points. And the other, why the fuck did Greco snap the ball when there wasn't even a play called according to Tate, they were just supposed to try and get them to jump.

Could be that Greco had his first start at center in his entire career?

[Tour2ma]

@topdawg31 said:

thare were two bad coaching decisions on 4th down, on the road you must take the points. And the other, why the fuck did Greco snap the ball when there wasn't even a play called according to Tate, they were just supposed to try and get them to jump.

Well... Pettine said in his presser that "we were trying to catch them in a change" and to do that the ball has to be snapped.

So there has to have been some call made to switch from "snap" to "no snap"... and Greco must have missed it.

[TopDawg31]

this is the fucking NFL stop the school yard bullshit

[Tour2ma]

@topdawg31 said:

this is the fucking NFL stop the school yard bullshit

Exactly...

[BaconHound]

@tour2ma said:

Well... Pettine said in his presser that "we were trying to catch them in a change" and to do that the ball has to be snapped.

So there has to have been some call made to switch from "snap" to "no snap"... and Greco must have missed it.

Just watched the presser, Pettine explained they wanted them to simply burn a timeout or take the delay penalty.

[Clevfan4life]

stfu with this Hoyer is garbage bullshit. He was off today no question, but the dropsies made an unwelcome return today as well. There were a number of balls that dropped today for no particularly good reason.....he still was behind on so many fucking throws though and blatantly queefed on that pass to Cameron in the endzone. I don't know what his problem was today but he's been awesome the whole season so stfu. He puts 3 or 4 games like this on the board though...then we'll talk.

[pooIpro]

I swear to god the browns especially wanna be hoyer owe me money for my time I spent watching this farce, my guess is hoyer is hurt and he will screw the fans before he admits it because he knows if johnny football takes the field hes done in Cleveland, hes not young and before the browns he was about done in the nfl and he knows it, no one drops off that much against an 0-6 team unless he is hurt in some way, hoyer wont admit it he would rather take the team and all the fans down the toilet with him, I lost respect for this fool today, hoyer the destroyer? more like hoyer the destroyer he destroys his own team.

[Osiris]

@soju said:

this was ALL on Brian Hoyer today, he's garbage.

We lost this game because we could not run the ball. The Shanahan system requires it in order to create open receivers. We do not have the personel to make the plays when we are forced out of that system. This is a game where having Josh Gordon would've made a huge difference.

Because we couldn't run the ball, we couldn't pass, and because we couldn't sustain drives, the defense spent too much time on the field. The defense held up well enough for 3 quarters to win if our offense had managed to score or even put together a couple more reasonably long drives. This game was lost in the trenches on both sides of the ball.

[Clevfan4life]

He looked perfectly fine out there. I honestly think this whole story with him possibly not signing unless JFF was gone may have put some ice in the lockerroom. And not because the guys are all smitten with JFF...it's because none of them get to dictate who their replacements are. At every other position on the field you don't produce you sit...and you don't get to say well I won't resign unless you get rid of that promising young dude you got waiting in the wings to take my spot. Maybe the week was spent by everyone wondering if there was truth to the story, maybe the lockerroom knows there's truth to the story I dunno. Hoyer's head looked somewhere else for sure.

@pooipro said:

I swear to god the browns especially wanna be hoyer owe me money for my time I spent watching this farce, my guess is hoyer is hurt and he will screw the fans before he admits it because he knows if johnny football takes the field hes done in Cleveland, hes not young and before the browns he was about done in the nfl and he knows it, no one drops off that much against an 0-6 team unless he is hurt in some way, hoyer wont admit it he would rather take the team and all the fans down the toilet with him, I lost respect for this fool today, hoyer the destroyer? more like hoyer the destroyer he destroys his own team.

[jcam222]

@soju said:

this was ALL on Brian Hoyer today, he's garbage.

. You are the biggest Fucktard on this board. He'll you are the biggest Fucktard on any of the boards. Go away, even the squeeler fans posts bring more value to the board than yours.

[miktoxic]

@osiris said:

We lost this game because we could not run the ball.

so it has been said so it shall be written.

BUT if you can't run the ball either because injury and inexperience in the OLine or you just have a couple of pussy RBs that don't like to get hit.

sorry, shannie's play calling can be suspect at times but he's got balls. problem is tate will go forward 3 steps and then fall10 back.

[Osiris]

@miktoxic said:

so it has been said so it shall be written.

BUT if you can't run the ball either because injury and inexperience in the OLine or you just have a couple of pussy RBs that don't like to get hit.

sorry, shannie's play calling can be suspect at times but he's got balls. problem is tate will go forward 3 steps and then fall10 back.

I put the run problems on the O line. The RBs did what they were supposed to do in a zone scheme by looking for cutback lanes but they just weren't getting any and on the outside runs were driven out of bounds. Jax deserves a lot of credit for how well they played the run. I won't be surprised if we see Greco back at RG next week and someone new at center.