Observations from today's game.
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It's only truly fair to really evaluate the Watkins v Gilbert debate until we see the return of the first round pick next we got from the Bills. I definitely have been happy that Gilbert is progressing though. Definitely far from perfect but at least he's getting better.
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My observation is exactly what I had feared......That the Team obviously read, and took to heart, all the damned 6 & 2 talk as soon as we went 3 & 2.
I damn near got sick when I read all the predictions for a "blowout" win.
The Team AND Fans needed a wake up call & dose of reality. That's what took place today.
Jacksonville literally kicked our asses in all phases of the game. All we can do is learn from it & get ready for the next SINGLE game.
Say what you will, but the phrase "..on any given Sunday" does have merit.
Mike
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These idiots that play for this team couldn't get away from the praise everyone heaped on them
Now that those idiots are checked into reality, the Browns will win the next 2 games for sure
When you have a rookie coach, NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS, pro players think and read what the ESPN's and Fox's talk about
Now that Petine was proved correct, maybe these idiot's will listen
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I truly do not know what caused such a poor game out of Hoyer. Maybe we should have taken last game with a huge dose of salt since he only completed 8 passes and was under 50%.
Today he was under 40%. I'll have to watch the replay to see what the hell is going on there. Was the loss of Mack that big a factor? Right now I just don't know.
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I truly do not know what caused such a poor game out of Hoyer. Maybe we should have taken last game with a huge dose of salt since he only completed 8 passes and was under 50%.
Today he was under 40%. I'll have to watch the replay to see what the hell is going on there. Was the loss of Mack that big a factor? Right now I just don't know.
I truly do not know what caused such a poor game out of Hoyer. Maybe we should have taken last game with a huge dose of salt since he only completed 8 passes and was under 50%.
Today he was under 40%. I'll have to watch the replay to see what the hell is going on there. Was the loss of Mack that big a factor? Right now I just don't know.
I already watched it.
He was NERVOUS. Hoyer overthrew, underthrew, threw it behind and through it to hard,
I'm guessing he was nervous without MACK at center. The O-line was a SIEVE,
They need to sign a center and let the reat of the line go back to what they were intended to do
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I simply call it as I see it.
If you can't see that Brian Hoyer was dogshit today, along with the coaching and playing calling, you're either blind or mentally Retarded.
Simply being the operative word...
And with the "Retard card" having been played... that's a wrap for the nite.
Will the sun come up tomorrow?
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Yeah the pass on Watkins looks terrible. There wasn't much downside to taking Watkins at 6 either. Even if he was having a subpar rookie year, Gordon coming back sometime this year or even next year.....would have taken so much pressure off Watkins. But he's pretty much the #1 in Buffalo isn't he? So obviously he would have been up to the task. That's another one we're gonna look back on and say what if....like Passing on Watt, Smith etc, etc. I also have to say that they need to stop utilizing Mingo the way they're utilizing him. Use him like Denver uses Miller..move him all over the LB'ing spots. Miller sometimes lines up like an ILB and blitzes, it makes him impossible to keep tabs on. Dude has what, 7 sacks in 6 games? Tha'ts more than our OLB'ers combines and might almost be as much as our entire LB'ing corp. Whatever it is we're doing, Mingo is definitely not being put in the impact positions that he should be.
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Yes! Rabble rabble rabble!
Base everything off of one bad play or one bad game!
rabble rabble rabble...............
...ugh
Yes! Rabble rabble rabble!
Base everything off of one bad play or one bad game!
rabble rabble rabble...............
...ugh
Another useless post from the peckerhead....
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Yeah the pass on Watkins looks terrible. There wasn't much downside to taking Watkins at 6 either. Even if he was having a subpar rookie year, Gordon coming back sometime this year or even next year.....would have taken so much pressure off Watkins. But he's pretty much the #1 in Buffalo isn't he? So obviously he would have been up to the task. That's another one we're gonna look back on and say what if....like Passing on Watt, Smith etc, etc. I also have to say that they need to stop utilizing Mingo the way they're utilizing him. Use him like Denver uses Miller..move him all over the LB'ing spots. Miller sometimes lines up like an ILB and blitzes, it makes him impossible to keep tabs on. Dude has what, 7 sacks in 6 games? Tha'ts more than our OLB'ers combines and might almost be as much as our entire LB'ing corp. Whatever it is we're doing, Mingo is definitely not being put in the impact positions that he should be.
Yeah the pass on Watkins looks terrible. There wasn't much downside to taking Watkins at 6 either. Even if he was having a subpar rookie year, Gordon coming back sometime this year or even next year.....would have taken so much pressure off Watkins. But he's pretty much the #1 in Buffalo isn't he? So obviously he would have been up to the task. That's another one we're gonna look back on and say what if....like Passing on Watt, Smith etc, etc. I also have to say that they need to stop utilizing Mingo the way they're utilizing him. Use him like Denver uses Miller..move him all over the LB'ing spots. Miller sometimes lines up like an ILB and blitzes, it makes him impossible to keep tabs on. Dude has what, 7 sacks in 6 games? Tha'ts more than our OLB'ers combines and might almost be as much as our entire LB'ing corp. Whatever it is we're doing, Mingo is definitely not being put in the impact positions that he should be.
throw your thick headed defensive schemes out the window and come up with your own new 22nd century hybrid scheme.
'gotta have guys with their hands in the dirt.' 'well we have DL and LBer issues so we'll move all our back end defense up to try and help to stop the run from our inept depth on DL.
taylor and rubin bums?
lol.
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Yeah the pass on Watkins looks terrible. There wasn't much downside to taking Watkins at 6 either. Even if he was having a subpar rookie year, Gordon coming back sometime this year or even next year.....would have taken so much pressure off Watkins. But he's pretty much the #1 in Buffalo isn't he? So obviously he would have been up to the task. That's another one we're gonna look back on and say what if....like Passing on Watt, Smith etc, etc. I also have to say that they need to stop utilizing Mingo the way they're utilizing him. Use him like Denver uses Miller..move him all over the LB'ing spots. Miller sometimes lines up like an ILB and blitzes, it makes him impossible to keep tabs on. Dude has what, 7 sacks in 6 games? Tha'ts more than our OLB'ers combines and might almost be as much as our entire LB'ing corp. Whatever it is we're doing, Mingo is definitely not being put in the impact positions that he should be.
throw your thick headed defensive schemes out the window and come up with your own new 22nd century hybrid scheme.
'gotta have guys with their hands in the dirt.' 'well we have DL and LBer issues so we'll move all our back end defense up to try and help to stop the run from our inept depth on DL.
taylor and rubin bums?
lol.
well the whole point of the 3-4 is to have your OLB'ers standing most of the time which is supposed to help them run defend better. It's not our OLB'ers that are the problem, so I don't see what switching to a 4-3 is going to do for us on run D. Hell it might make it even worse if that's possible.
throw your thick headed defensive schemes out the window and come up with your own new 22nd century hybrid scheme.
'gotta have guys with their hands in the dirt.' 'well we have DL and LBer issues so we'll move all our back end defense up to try and help to stop the run from our inept depth on DL.
taylor and rubin bums?
lol.
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The blueprint is out. Do everything you can to stop the run and make Hoyer beat you with his arm.
At least yesterday, he looked a lot like Charlie Frye out there. Brian needs to cowboy up because teams are going to make him prove that he can beat them.
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The blueprint is out. Do everything you can to stop the run and make Hoyer beat you with his arm.
At least yesterday, he looked a lot like Charlie Frye out there. Brian needs to cowboy up because teams are going to make him prove that he can beat them.
The blueprint is out. Do everything you can to stop the run and make Hoyer beat you with his arm.
At least yesterday, he looked a lot like Charlie Frye out there. Brian needs to cowboy up because teams are going to make him prove that he can beat them.
That is exactly who he reminded me of.
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The blueprint is out. Do everything you can to stop the run and make Hoyer beat you with his arm.
At least yesterday, he looked a lot like Charlie Frye out there. Brian needs to cowboy up because teams are going to make him prove that he can beat them.
The blueprint is out. Do everything you can to stop the run and make Hoyer beat you with his arm.
At least yesterday, he looked a lot like Charlie Frye out there. Brian needs to cowboy up because teams are going to make him prove that he can beat them.
We've been in situations this year where there was no chance of us running the ball, so teams only had to worry about the pass. And Hoyer beat them.
Man, it just seems like we reversed the entire vibe from last week fans cheering, holding Hoya signs - to cheering injury material for next week.
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well the whole point of the 3-4 is to have your OLB'ers standing most of the time which is supposed to help them run defend better. It's not our OLB'ers that are the problem, so I don't see what switching to a 4-3 is going to do for us on run D. Hell it might make it even worse if that's possible.
throw your thick headed defensive schemes out the window and come up with your own new 22nd century hybrid scheme.
'gotta have guys with their hands in the dirt.' 'well we have DL and LBer issues so we'll move all our back end defense up to try and help to stop the run from our inept depth on DL.
taylor and rubin bums?
lol.
well the whole point of the 3-4 is to have your OLB'ers standing most of the time which is supposed to help them run defend better. It's not our OLB'ers that are the problem, so I don't see what switching to a 4-3 is going to do for us on run D. Hell it might make it even worse if that's possible.
my whole point is why define your defense as 3-4, 4-3 or whatever? like i've been saying since pettine took over, why put players in positions that they've never played before? just let the freakin dogs loose and let them play.
sheard and mingo should be wreaking havoc on QBs, and they're in coverage?
GTFO.
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Yeah the pass on Watkins looks terrible. There wasn't much downside to taking Watkins at 6 either. Even if he was having a subpar rookie year, Gordon coming back sometime this year or even next year.....would have taken so much pressure off Watkins. But he's pretty much the #1 in Buffalo isn't he? So obviously he would have been up to the task. That's another one we're gonna look back on and say what if....like Passing on Watt, Smith etc, etc. I also have to say that they need to stop utilizing Mingo the way they're utilizing him. Use him like Denver uses Miller..move him all over the LB'ing spots. Miller sometimes lines up like an ILB and blitzes, it makes him impossible to keep tabs on. Dude has what, 7 sacks in 6 games? Tha'ts more than our OLB'ers combines and might almost be as much as our entire LB'ing corp. Whatever it is we're doing, Mingo is definitely not being put in the impact positions that he should be.
Yeah the pass on Watkins looks terrible. There wasn't much downside to taking Watkins at 6 either.
Use him like Denver uses Miller..move him all over the LB'ing spots. Miller sometimes lines up like an ILB and blitzes, it makes him impossible to keep tabs on. Dude has what, 7 sacks in 6 games? Tha'ts more than our OLB'ers combines and might almost be as much as our entire LB'ing corp. Whatever it is we're doing, Mingo is definitely not being put in the impact positions that he should be.
Watkins was not there at 6...
Do really think the only difference between Mingo and Miller is how they are used?
well the whole point of the 3-4 is to have your OLB'ers standing most of the time which is supposed to help them run defend better. It's not our OLB'ers that are the problem, so I don't see what switching to a 4-3 is going to do for us on run D. Hell it might make it even worse if that's possible.
We have two, stand-up, 3-4 LBs that were pretty good, 4-3 DE's, Kruger and Sheard. Put them outside of our two best interior linemen available and you have a pretty good, 3-down D-line. Back that with Dansby flanked by Kirksey and Robertson and you have a pretty good set of 3-down, 4-3 LBs.
Then you have Mingo for situational pass rushing as a DE and can do a little zone blitzing with him as well.
Is the 4-3 a better way to go? Dunno now that the official D is playing better, but a couple weeks ago it sure looked to me like it was.
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Looking back, our defensive line is weak sauce. They just get up and wait for contact to hit them.
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The blueprint is out. Do everything you can to stop the run and make Hoyer beat you with his arm.
At least yesterday, he looked a lot like Charlie Frye out there. Brian needs to cowboy up because teams are going to make him prove that he can beat them.
The blueprint is out. Do everything you can to stop the run and make Hoyer beat you with his arm.
Is there a team in the NFL for which there is not a Defensive blueprint? They all have at least one loss, so there must be.
We've been in situations this year where there was no chance of us running the ball, so teams only had to worry about the pass. And Hoyer beat them.
Man, it just seems like we reversed the entire vibe from last week fans cheering, holding Hoya signs - to cheering injury material for next week.
Disappointing losses tend to dent enthusiasm, but point taken.
On the come backs... part of the credit Shanny was getting for them was that we did not completely abandon the run despite some large deficits.
And that meant the PAP plays remained effective... etc...
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