F Brian "Garbage" Hoyer

tiamat63

@nickers said:
Yes,I really don't see the comparison to Ben R except body type,maybe... Otherwise.. He looks raw. Ben didn't make those kind of mistakes his rookie season.

Ben wasn't asked to throw much his rookie season and was surrounded with a far more competent team.

bbedward

@downsouthkc said:
The only thing I'll say (aside from Hoyer is still the guy) is that all these play actions/bootlegs we do are set up for Manziel to excel in.

I'd agree that manziel could excel in this scheme, but the PA and boot legs seem to be where hoyas excelled the most

Also, Bortles had a terrible game today. I bet Jags fans aren't calling for his head.

Clevfan4life

Bortles looked alright for a rook. Kid has promise. But yeah any middle of the road defense shuts him and the Jags down today. I just give up trying to explain why we can't stop the run. This loss was by FAR not all on Hoyer. Please STFU anybody that's calling for Hoyer to be replaced. Just shit the bed today...whole team did except for the secondary.

jcam222

@walterwhite said:

We got the best QB in the draft...

. Man you flop back and forth on this a LOT! One bad game and your back blowing Johnny

Tour2ma

@tiamat63 said:
Ben wasn't asked to throw much his rookie season and was surrounded with a far more competent team.

Yup... and that team included a strong run game...

Their run to pass ratio was not quite 2:1, but approached it. Still he threw 17 TDs, but also 11 INTs.

hoorta

@clevfan4life said:
Bortles looked alright for a rook. Kid has promise. But yeah any middle of the road defense shuts him and the Jags down today. I just give up trying to explain why we can't stop the run. This loss was by FAR not all on Hoyer. Please STFU anybody that's calling for Hoyer to be replaced. Just shit the bed today...whole team did except for the secondary.

You ever think Rubin and Taylor didn't play today? That was a true team stinker.

Vagitron

@hx214 said:

3 picks

159 yards

QB rating 39.6

With the third overall pick in the draft....

No thanks.

He's a rookie on a pretty bad offensive team.

miktoxic

@jcam222 said:
. Man you flop back and forth on this a LOT! One bad game and your back blowing Johnny

walter is rob assuranuses' campaign manager for gov of NY.

flippin burgers and floppin like a soccer mom.

RoyceRolls

@jcam222 said:
. Man you flop back and forth on this a LOT! One bad game and your back blowing Johnny

To be fair, I don't see how saying "we got the best QB in the draft" can be seen as a knock on hoyer. Hoyer wasn't drafted this year.

It is possible for someone to like both Hoyer and Manziel....

b86b

Hoyer the last two weeks 24/58 41% 432 yrds 1td 1int. He's trending in the wrong direction

LBC mike

A qb's best friend is a running game and ours didn't help

djdawg2010

The loss was a team effort. From the coaching staff on down. Bad calls, horrible game management.

jim_brown

16 for 41 with an interception, if he's lucky he gets one more week to turn things around....over all he hasn't been terrible...just mediocre, which is pretty much what he's been his entire career....my guess is manziel is ready at this point and we'd be wise to see what he can do......there's no guarantees, but my guess is that he would do better than that...two field goals against a louzy team that gives up 3 interceptions....that's pathetic....

tml1138

Bortles has thrown more than one interception just about every game he's started. He's raw and Browns should've won by taking full advantage of that.

Anyone calling for Hoyer's head: you'd better just be venting over this shitty loss and get back with it for next week.

TypicalBrowns

it really is pathetic, one reason why I was surprised we didn't even see A LITTLE of Johnny

tml1138

@typicalbrowns said:
it really is pathetic, one reason why I was surprised we didn't even see A LITTLE of Johnny

Too soon. That would only mix things up and mentally screw the team even worse.

DieHardBrownsFan

@tml1138 said:

Too soon. That would only mix things up and mentally screw the team even worse.

So if Oakland beats us, is that soon enough? Or do we wait for the next week?

jim_brown

@tml1138 said:

Too soon. That would only mix things up and mentally screw the team even worse.

too soon..??...we're 6 games into the season and have 3 losses......if you're generous, you give hoyer one more chance to turn his performance around.....if he screws the pooch yet again, i gotta believe the coaches will decide to give manziel a chance.....

Westside Steve

@diehardbrownsfan said:
So if Oakland beats us, is that soon enough? Or do we wait for the next week?

I'm hard pressed to put the entire blame on Brian Hoyer's shoulders.

But I like to see any quarterback get a good and fair look. As a rookie johnny is going have his own growing pains just like the great Blake bortles is. Then the Boo birds will be screaming for Connor Shaw.

WSS

PurplePantyWaste

Flacco has had worse games.

Even Peyton had had 4+ interception games.

Too soon to give up on him.

I was more shocked by your defense