ebola
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As far as I'm concerned our soldiers should be there to stop the spread of the disease BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Do you read me, gentlemen?
As far as I'm concerned our soldiers should be there to stop the spread of the disease BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Do you read me, gentlemen?
Hell ya.
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Loud and clear.
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As far as I'm concerned our soldiers should be there to stop the spread of the disease BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Do you read me, gentlemen?
As far as I'm concerned our soldiers should be there to stop the spread of the disease BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Do you read me, gentlemen?
I'm going to pretend you are trolling with that comment.
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10,000 new cases a week estimated in Africa. Time to send the bio cleaners in to do the tough job. Exterminate the disease. The victims are already collateral damage. Let the hippies wring their hands about it once they can safely do so.
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As far as I'm concerned our soldiers should be there to stop the spread of the disease BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Do you read me, gentlemen?
I'm going to pretend you are trolling with that comment.
I'm going to pretend you are trolling with that comment.
You are a fool if you think the cdc ' s containment measures are going to work at this point. You want to protect people? Then protect them.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
In America containment might still be possible. In Africa those people are not so lucky.
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'Merica
Fuck Yeah
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'Merica
Fuck Yeah
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Not sure how that is relevant in the slightest woody. I'll give you that number again. 10,000 new cases PER WEEK expected in africa. 70-90% fatality rate. What kind of a foolish response is that?
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You are a fool if you think the cdc ' s containment measures are going to work at this point. You want to protect people? Then protect them.
Yeah, genocide baby!
Meanwhile, in Lagos, only 20 ppl were infected in a city of 20 million people and there have been no new cases in over 42 days, double the incubation period. Stop listening to the news and start listening to doctors and scientists who have more of a clue than Fox and CNN news broadcasters. Cool heads prevail.
This is how Nigeria did it. No genocide neccessary.
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Im not sure you understand what genocide is. It's not killing a minority of highly virulent contagious disease ridden people who are going to die in 70+% of cases so that the vast majority don't die right along with them. That's not genocide.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
In Nigeria 20 people had it. In Liberia and Sierra Leone it's out of control and even according to the WHO the number of cases reported is drastically smaller than the realistic number. They expect between 5-10,000 new cases per week over the coming months. Now you're a smart guy Osiris, do you really believe they have the ability to contain it there for long? Let's not try to be idealistic. Let's be realistic.
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Im not sure you understand what genocide is. It's not killing a minority of highly virulent contagious disease ridden people who are going to die in 70+% of cases so that the vast majority don't die right along with them. That's not genocide.
Im not sure you understand what genocide is. It's not killing a minority of highly virulent contagious disease ridden people who are going to die in 70+% of cases so that the vast majority don't die right along with them. That's not genocide.
I can't believe you are seriously arguing for killing off thousands of people because they are sick and have a poor prognosis. Glad doctors take the Hippocratic Oath. And yes, being that I work with people who actually research and have studied Eboloa and other viruses for years and have attended their talks, I do believe it can be contained to the region it is currently is in. I've said it three times already, the reason it is spreading there is due to social and cultural factors specific to the region.
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Contained to the region killing how many? You're essentially advocating sentencing the well to a horrible painful blood puking death. There's already thousands and thousands of cases. Every new one up to 5-10,000 a week increases the odds that it will mutate and spread further out of control. I'd rather they contain it but you don't send soldiers in harms way to contain. If you send them there its one mission only. Kill it. Kill it with fire.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
'Merica
Fuck Yeah
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Not sure how that is relevant in the slightest woody. I'll give you that number again. 10,000 new cases PER WEEK expected in africa. 70-90% fatality rate. What kind of a foolish response is that?
Not sure how that is relevant in the slightest woody. I'll give you that number again. 10,000 new cases PER WEEK expected in africa. 70-90% fatality rate. What kind of a foolish response is that?
Just ignore the ignorant little troll.
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Monty Python - Bring out Your Dead:
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Sooo... A scorch the earth policy devpid of all ethics and moral decency. No thanks.
Even if you are putting them "out of their misery" you're still murdering the 30% that would survive. Not to mention killing every sick person you can see is no sure fire way to stop the disease. Oh, and pissing a ton of countries off, that's great too. But I'm sure we'll be received well when we show up...
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Sooo... A scorch the earth policy devpid of all ethics and moral decency. No thanks.
Even if you are putting them "out of their misery" you're still murdering the 30% that would survive. Not to mention killing every sick person you can see is no sure fire way to stop the disease. Oh, and pissing a ton of countries off, that's great too. But I'm sure we'll be received well when we show up...
as harsh is it may seem I kind of agree with that policy but only, & I stress the word only, if we would be sure eliminating the virus.Sooo... A scorch the earth policy devpid of all ethics and moral decency. No thanks.
Even if you are putting them "out of their misery" you're still murdering the 30% that would survive. Not to mention killing every sick person you can see is no sure fire way to stop the disease. Oh, and pissing a ton of countries off, that's great too. But I'm sure we'll be received well when we show up...
(not wipe out hundreds of thousands or millions of innocent people)
And I don't think that's even close to being a realistic option.
WSS
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Contained to the region killing how many? You're essentially advocating sentencing the well to a horrible painful blood puking death. There's already thousands and thousands of cases. Every new one up to 5-10,000 a week increases the odds that it will mutate and spread further out of control. I'd rather they contain it but you don't send soldiers in harms way to contain. If you send them there its one mission only. Kill it. Kill it with fire.
Contained to the region killing how many? You're essentially advocating sentencing the well to a horrible painful blood puking death. There's already thousands and thousands of cases. Every new one up to 5-10,000 a week increases the odds that it will mutate and spread further out of control. I'd rather they contain it but you don't send soldiers in harms way to contain. If you send them there its one mission only. Kill it. Kill it with fire.
First, let's not state speculation of the WHO official in the article as fact. I'm not saying we won't get 5-10K cases per week, but he is projecting. Second, the 70% death rate is a projection based on his claim that deaths are under-reported. But you know what else is under-reported? The survivors. Why? Because the stigma is attached to contracting the disease, not just dying from it. So survivors are also not reporting it. Historically Ebola kills 25-85%. So until someone has positive evidence (instead of speculating on under-reporting), I'm sticking with the 50% number.
The thing about this disease is peoples' behavior plays a critical factor in the spread of the disease. People dramatically increase their chance of not contracting the disease if, as hard as it is, they buck custom and refrain from touching their relatives that die from Ebola. They increase the chance of both surviving and containing the disease if they immediately seek medical attention, which many are not doing because of the stigma attached to this disease. So I'm not sentencing the well to a horrible death, people there are sentencing themselves and the best thing we can do is try to get them to stop doing so.
Suppose we did get an Ebola epidemic in some city in the USA. Would you be okay with a foreign military coming in and razing San Francisco, or Houston, or Tampa, or Boston?
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Osiris so far nearly 37 million people have died from AIDS. And we've known for decades that all they have to do is refrain from unprotected anal sex and using dirty needles.
(by the way I'm just discussing things and still of the opinion that this will be a non issue in 6 months)
WSS
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