F Brian "Garbage" Hoyer
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No but he did over throw by 10 yards a WIDE OPEN Jordan Cameron that would have made it 10-0.
He did under throw a WIDE OPEN Taylor Gabriel that would have given us a TD instead of punting.
Hoyer played like shit last week and he even admitted himself, sure the rest of the team was garbage but Brian wasn't any better.
Stop sucking his dick and just call it as you see it.
So who did play well last week??? Longsnapper??? Placeholder?? Kicker???
So who did play well last week??? Longsnapper??? Placeholder?? Kicker???
No one. And I think we should bench every player that has a bad game and play the backup instead. So we "know" what we have.
Based upon what Ive read here the last few weeks, we should bench Gilbert, Hoyer, Haden, Dansby, Schwartz, Whitner, Sheard, Kruger, Mingo and Taylor.
And we should also dump Hoyer and play JFF now so we can make a rash decision about picking another QB next year.
News flash!!!! - the Browns aint picking another QB in the first round next year. Its not gonna happen and REALLY stupid to think that it's even a possibility. The ONLY way it happens is if he sucks soooooooooooooooo bad it's not funny. And IF thats the case, they already know it. So why play someone who you already know sucks?. And IF he doesn't suck and you PLAN to use him, why not go with the best one till he's ready?
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But according to you we should already have moved onto "the future"...
100%.
Hoyer isn't the future, of anybody. He's a stop gap career backup QB with accuracy issues. Its what he came into the league as, its what hes been cut 3 times as, and its what he still is.
Have to find out what Manziel has before next two QB loaded drafts.
Browns have to find a Franchise QB.
Brian Hoyer is not a Franchise QB.
Both of those are true, combine them and you'll have exactly what I've been saying all along.
Did you see Ian Rapoport on Eisen this morning? Said Jon Gruden begged the Raiders to take Manziel first round last draft and if they did he was going to coach the Raiders. Thats how much Gruden believes Manziel is a Franchise QB. If we traded Hoyer to Oakland right now do you think Gruden comes out of the booth to coach them then? Not a chance in hell.
The thinking around here is too small time to realize the opportunity the Browns have here and how much wasting of time is going on.
Hoyer isn't the future, of anybody. He's a stop gap career backup QB with accuracy issues. Its what he came into the league as, its what hes been cut 3 times as, and its what he still is.
Have to find out what Manziel has before next two QB loaded drafts.
Missed this bit earlier...
Hoyer is our immediate future. Why? Because he is the best at his position on our current roster.
If you want JM to start now, then you have to fire Pettine. Why? Because Pettine believes in competition. Every move he has made this year screams that. Deactivating West screams that. Sitting Gilbert screams that. Sitting JM screams that.
So fire Pettine and elevate Shanny to Interim HC, then JM will start. Why? Because Shanny is a JM fan. Shanny is infatuated with JM's athleticism. Shanny sees RG4. Move also assures our D will give up plenty of points so you can compress a season's worth of pass calls into less than half a season of games.
As for the drafts...
Still a lot of underclass decisions to come, but right now 2015 is looking a lot less "QB loaded" than it did prior to the start of the season.
2016 looks promising, again pending decisions, but there's plenty of time between now and then to decide.
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No but he did over throw by 10 yards a WIDE OPEN Jordan Cameron that would have made it 10-0.
He did under throw a WIDE OPEN Taylor Gabriel that would have given us a TD instead of punting.
Hoyer played like shit last week and he even admitted himself, sure the rest of the team was garbage but Brian wasn't any better.
Stop sucking his dick and just call it as you see it.
So who did play well last week??? Longsnapper??? Placeholder?? Kicker???
So who did play well last week??? Longsnapper??? Placeholder?? Kicker???
If Brian connects on those passes, who knows how this game plays out.
The fact of the matter is that the opportunities to win games are so few and far bewtween and missing 2 TD's on erratic throws is partially to blame.
Brian isn't the sole factor we lost, but he didn't help himself.
He's in a Browns jersey so lets hope he kicks ass today. Winning is all that matters
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can someone just get rid of stockton already?
his constant yammering about the same thing over and over again is like getting hit in the head with a hammer (over and over).
and walter you're a bitch. all you need is a little buddy to edge you on and you turn 180 degrees in 0.1 seconds. make up your fucking mind and stick to your convictions you flip-flopping fuck.
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can someone just get rid of stockton already?
his constant yammering about the same thing over and over again is like getting hit in the head with a hammer (over and over).
and walter you're a bitch. all you need is a little buddy to edge you on and you turn 180 degrees in 0.1 seconds. make up your fucking mind and stick to your convictions you flip-flopping fuck.
and walter you're a bitch. all you need is a little buddy to edge you on and you turn 180 degrees in 0.1 seconds. make up your fucking mind and stick to your convictions you flip-flopping fuck.
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No but he did over throw by 10 yards a WIDE OPEN Jordan Cameron that would have made it 10-0.
He did under throw a WIDE OPEN Taylor Gabriel that would have given us a TD instead of punting.
Hoyer played like shit last week and he even admitted himself, sure the rest of the team was garbage but Brian wasn't any better.
Stop sucking his dick and just call it as you see it.
So who did play well last week??? Longsnapper??? Placeholder?? Kicker???
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makes sense you would put up an animated gif of robert downey jr. when he was smoking crack like you smoke cock.
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Damn. Just when Ghoolie starts coming around we have Stockton and Walter taking over for the old Ghoolie and Rich routine. Just STFU already..
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^this.
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No quarterback, not Manning, Brady, Breesy, Rodgers, Newton, Rivers, Wilson, Luck or that fat ass in Pittsburgh would be successful with every possession being 3rd and long. None. Not a god damn one.
As the ground game goes, so will he offense. Want to know what will happen with JM playing and the Oline not opening running lanes? It'll probably be worse than what you're seeing with Hoyer. If you think otherwise, then you're just a fucking stooge. I really won't bother qualifying it in any other terms. Get to learn football, there's a reason the run game and pass game are complimentary.
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No quarterback, not Manning, Brady, Breesy, Rodgers, Newton, Rivers, Wilson, Luck or that fat ass in Pittsburgh would be successful with every possession being 3rd and long. None. Not a god damn one.
As the ground game goes, so will he offense. Want to know what will happen with JM playing and the Oline not opening running lanes? It'll probably be worse than what you're seeing with Hoyer. If you think otherwise, then you're just a fucking stooge. I really won't bother qualifying it in any other terms. Get to learn football, there's a reason the run game and pass game are complimentary.
Hoyers had some good throws today. Some bad ones where's he's been bailed out.No quarterback, not Manning, Brady, Breesy, Rodgers, Newton, Rivers, Wilson, Luck or that fat ass in Pittsburgh would be successful with every possession being 3rd and long. None. Not a god damn one.
As the ground game goes, so will he offense. Want to know what will happen with JM playing and the Oline not opening running lanes? It'll probably be worse than what you're seeing with Hoyer. If you think otherwise, then you're just a fucking stooge. I really won't bother qualifying it in any other terms. Get to learn football, there's a reason the run game and pass game are complimentary.
But we're consistent with last week, we can't run the ball or offer the same type of production even with the McDonald/Greco combo.
If Mack's the reason we should pay the man more than everybody.
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Hoyers had some good throws today. Some bad ones where's he's been bailed out.No quarterback, not Manning, Brady, Breesy, Rodgers, Newton, Rivers, Wilson, Luck or that fat ass in Pittsburgh would be successful with every possession being 3rd and long. None. Not a god damn one.
As the ground game goes, so will he offense. Want to know what will happen with JM playing and the Oline not opening running lanes? It'll probably be worse than what you're seeing with Hoyer. If you think otherwise, then you're just a fucking stooge. I really won't bother qualifying it in any other terms. Get to learn football, there's a reason the run game and pass game are complimentary.
But we're consistent with last week, we can't run the ball or offer the same type of production even with the McDonald/Greco combo.
If Mack's the reason we should pay the man more than everybody.
Hoyers had some good throws today. Some bad ones where's he's been bailed out.
But we're consistent with last week, we can't run the ball or offer the same type of production even with the McDonald/Greco combo.
If Mack's the reason we should pay the man more than everybody.
mack might not even come back close to what he was. sign him yes, but also NOW WE KNOW that you have to have serious depth at the OL position.
DUH.
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Hoyers had some good throws today. Some bad ones where's he's been bailed out.
But we're consistent with last week, we can't run the ball or offer the same type of production even with the McDonald/Greco combo.
If Mack's the reason we should pay the man more than everybody.
mack might not even come back close to what he was. sign him yes, but also NOW WE KNOW that you have to have serious depth at the OL position.
DUH.
mack might not even come back close to what he was. sign him yes, but also NOW WE KNOW that you have to have serious depth at the OL position.
DUH.
But is our depth THAT bad? Top 5 rush offense to bottom 5 with a backup center?
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Bring in JFF>
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No matter the system, when teams play the run by stacking the box numbers will go down. The verdict is clearly out for the Browns offense that stopping the run is key.
That will work until we get Gordon back. Once we can stretch the field and the other team's defense cannot stack the box we will see a much more explosive offense.
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In all seriousness though what's the verdict from everyone about Hoyer today? There's no doubt he played better today, but the stat line is sneaky IMO. It's impossible to deny he got away with 4-5 throws today that better teams would have intercepted. BUT he did make some good plays when it mattered.
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Hoyer is what he is, a game manager, and that's not a knock. There are only about 10 guys in the NFL that are game changers so he's in the majority.
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What was it, over 100 yards YAC today? Kept it short.
Teams are loading up on the run because they don't think Hoyer can beat them deep. Oakland was one of the worst pass defenses in the league, giving up a huge rating and Hoyer got a huge rating himself without having to much of anything.
He had 3 passes that hit defenders in the hands and they dropped, the one before half was a Pick 6 and the guy was running without securing it. We had 9 points going into the 4th and scored the two TDs off of Raiders turnovers with a short field.
Keep telling me everything is ok, but you all know its not. Just watching the game and looking at the physical abilities between the two today, you can't tell me Carr isn't the more talented QB in his 7th start then Hoyer in his 7th year. Thats were Brian Hoyer is at, and we're talking about long term contract? Please.
If this was against Buffalo or better we lose. We got away with it because it was Oakland and they turned the ball over. Only gives you more chance to deny deny deny reality and keep us wishing for a playoff birth that isn't coming and wasting time starting the future. Thats all thats happening here is wasting time starting our future. Not contenders, not going to make the playoffs, just twiddling our thumbs, trying our hardest to lower our draft pick and wasting time getting the future going. Like a college kid that graduates and hangs in his college town an extra year and works at a bar.
Hoyer is a Miller High Life in a Champaign League. Remember who told you first.
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