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  • dawg08 D
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    D dawg08 wrote on last edited by
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    Abou time he gets a TD! He deserves it!

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    • ramblin R One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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      R ramblin wrote on last edited by
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      Was thinking the same thing earlier. When Gordon gets back and stretches the defense along with a healthy Cameron, Hawkins or Austin will be one on one in the open field.

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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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        Austin is becoming a beast

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        • bbedwardB bbedward

          Good hands, good speed. Cincinnati had no interest in keeping him so why'd we get so lucky?

          Even worse is cincy is signing Greg little.

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @bbedward said:

          Good hands, good speed. Cincinnati had no interest in keeping him so why'd we get so lucky?

          Even worse is cincy is signing Greg little.

          Greg Little had a good game vs. scavengers yesterday.

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            @bbedward said:

            Good hands, good speed. Cincinnati had no interest in keeping him so why'd we get so lucky?

            Even worse is cincy is signing Greg little.

            Greg Little had a good game vs. scavengers yesterday.

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            @the-gipper said:

            Greg Little had a good game vs. scavengers yesterday.

            5 targets, 3 catches for 42 yards. Damn, we've missed that kind of production.

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              ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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              Cinci has to regret letting Hawkins go. Big time. Sometimes you don't know what you got till it's gone.

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                Cinci has to regret letting Hawkins go. Big time. Sometimes you don't know what you got till it's gone.

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @manzier said:

                Cinci has to regret letting Hawkins go. Big time. Sometimes you don't know what you got till it's gone.

                Pave paradise and put up a parking lot. Thanks Joni.

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                  slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by
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                  He's definitely been productive. Hopefully now that he broke the seal with his 1st TD, he starts scoring more frequently.

                  About Austin, am I the only one who thinks he's being underutilized??? He's averaging 3 receptions and 5 targets per game and 12 ypc. I know he' not going to produce like its 2009 again, but with his size and hands, I'm just a bit suprised they dont try and get him the ball a little more. Especially considering all our other WR's are smaller shiftier guys. He's the only WR that can use his body to establish position and shield off the DB's.

                  !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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                    ThaakT Thaak wrote on last edited by
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                    I love Hawkins. I loved him in the Michael Irvin/Dallas Cowboys reality show. I wanted him to win.

                    I love what he's doing for the Browns right now.

                    I think he's a long term answer in the slot once Gordon comes back.

                    But I'm also really, really impressed with #18! Taylor Gabriel! He's making plays man! That's all this kid is doing right now is making plays!

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                      slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by
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                      If I remember correctly, Cincinnati wanted to resign him but Cleveland offered him more money than Cincinatti was willing to match. Also I believe we will end up having to give Cincinatti a compensatory pick.

                      !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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                        ThaakT Thaak wrote on last edited by Thaak
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                        We won't have to give Cincinnati anything. The NFL hands out compensatory picks.

                        And while the algorithm for how compensatory picks are handed out is convoluted at best, I don't believe an undrafted free agent will get you anything. Compensatory picks are handed out based on the drafted position of the free agents you lose.

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                        • slimdawgS slimdawg

                          If I remember correctly, Cincinnati wanted to resign him but Cleveland offered him more money than Cincinatti was willing to match. Also I believe we will end up having to give Cincinatti a compensatory pick.

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                          ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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                          @slimdawg said:

                          If I remember correctly, Cincinnati wanted to resign him but Cleveland offered him more money than Cincinatti was willing to match. Also I believe we will end up having to give Cincinatti a compensatory pick.

                          Nope, no compensatory pick. Just a FA signing.

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                          • slimdawgS slimdawg

                            If I remember correctly, Cincinnati wanted to resign him but Cleveland offered him more money than Cincinatti was willing to match. Also I believe we will end up having to give Cincinatti a compensatory pick.

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                            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                            @slimdawg said:

                            If I remember correctly, Cincinnati wanted to resign him but Cleveland offered him more money than Cincinatti was willing to match. Also I believe we will end up having to give Cincinatti a compensatory pick.

                            @thaak said:

                            We won't have to give Cincinnati anything. The NFL hands out compensatory picks.

                            And while the algorithm for how compensatory picks are handed out is convoluted at best, I don't believe an undrafted free agent will get you anything. Compensatory picks are handed out based on the drafted position of the free agents you lose.

                            @manzier said:

                            Nope, no compensatory pick. Just a FA signing.

                            for clarification, Cinci tendered an 'Exclusive Rights FA' contract, meaning they had first refusal on any contract; if they refuse, they are entitled to a compensatory pick equivalent to where the player was drafted. However, since Hawkins was a UDFA, no pick is 'traded'.

                            We'd be in the same position with Gipson, FWIW.

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                              @manzier said:

                              Cinci has to regret letting Hawkins go. Big time. Sometimes you don't know what you got till it's gone.

                              Pave paradise and put up a parking lot. Thanks Joni.

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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Pave paradise and put up a parking lot. Thanks Joni.

                              lol.. Who's next? Melanie?

                              @slimdawg said:

                              About Austin, am I the only one who thinks he's being underutilized??? He's averaging 3 receptions and 5 targets per game and 12 ypc. I know he' not going to produce like its 2009 again, but with his size and hands, I'm just a bit suprised they dont try and get him the ball a little more. Especially considering all our other WR's are smaller shiftier guys. He's the only WR that can use his body to establish position and shield off the DB's.

                              Austin is essentially seems to have settled into the "possession" role. Which for his size and relative lack of speed seems appropriate.

                              As for try... no. Take what the D gives. Mix it up. Trying to target a WR often ends badly.

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                Pave paradise and put up a parking lot. Thanks Joni.

                                lol.. Who's next? Melanie?

                                @slimdawg said:

                                About Austin, am I the only one who thinks he's being underutilized??? He's averaging 3 receptions and 5 targets per game and 12 ypc. I know he' not going to produce like its 2009 again, but with his size and hands, I'm just a bit suprised they dont try and get him the ball a little more. Especially considering all our other WR's are smaller shiftier guys. He's the only WR that can use his body to establish position and shield off the DB's.

                                Austin is essentially seems to have settled into the "possession" role. Which for his size and relative lack of speed seems appropriate.

                                As for try... no. Take what the D gives. Mix it up. Trying to target a WR often ends badly.

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                                ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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                                @tour2ma said:

                                Austin is essentially seems to have settled into the "possession" role. Which for his size and relative lack of speed seems appropriate.

                                As for try... no. Take what the D gives. Mix it up. Trying to target a WR often ends badly.

                                I agree with this. Hoyer doesn't seem to play favorites and is spreading it around pretty good. I'd guess Austin gets targeted when he's open, eh? Seems to have good hands, but maybe a little slow. So not open as often as the younger guys. And not likely to provide the same YAC either. A very good role receiver, but not a 1 or 2 anymore.

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                                • ThaakT Thaak

                                  We won't have to give Cincinnati anything. The NFL hands out compensatory picks.

                                  And while the algorithm for how compensatory picks are handed out is convoluted at best, I don't believe an undrafted free agent will get you anything. Compensatory picks are handed out based on the drafted position of the free agents you lose.

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                                  slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by
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                                  @thaak said:

                                  We won't have to give Cincinnati anything. The NFL hands out compensatory picks.

                                  And while the algorithm for how compensatory picks are handed out is convoluted at best, I don't believe an undrafted free agent will get you anything. Compensatory picks are handed out based on the drafted position of the free agents you lose.

                                  Gotcha, I had it in my head that it was all about the players production the next year.

                                  !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    Pave paradise and put up a parking lot. Thanks Joni.

                                    lol.. Who's next? Melanie?

                                    @slimdawg said:

                                    About Austin, am I the only one who thinks he's being underutilized??? He's averaging 3 receptions and 5 targets per game and 12 ypc. I know he' not going to produce like its 2009 again, but with his size and hands, I'm just a bit suprised they dont try and get him the ball a little more. Especially considering all our other WR's are smaller shiftier guys. He's the only WR that can use his body to establish position and shield off the DB's.

                                    Austin is essentially seems to have settled into the "possession" role. Which for his size and relative lack of speed seems appropriate.

                                    As for try... no. Take what the D gives. Mix it up. Trying to target a WR often ends badly.

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                                    slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by
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                                    @tour2ma said:

                                    lol.. Who's next? Melanie?

                                    Austin is essentially seems to have settled into the "possession" role. Which for his size and relative lack of speed seems appropriate.

                                    As for try... no. Take what the D gives. Mix it up. Trying to target a WR often ends badly.

                                    Nah I wasnt talking about trying to force any throws to him, more like making him 1st read on more plays. Similar to the play they ran in back to back games which both resulted in TD's. I absolutely see him as a possession type reciever, he reminds me of Joe J. alot but I swear I remember Joe being more involved than what Austin is though

                                    !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Pave paradise and put up a parking lot. Thanks Joni.

                                      lol.. Who's next? Melanie?

                                      @slimdawg said:

                                      About Austin, am I the only one who thinks he's being underutilized??? He's averaging 3 receptions and 5 targets per game and 12 ypc. I know he' not going to produce like its 2009 again, but with his size and hands, I'm just a bit suprised they dont try and get him the ball a little more. Especially considering all our other WR's are smaller shiftier guys. He's the only WR that can use his body to establish position and shield off the DB's.

                                      Austin is essentially seems to have settled into the "possession" role. Which for his size and relative lack of speed seems appropriate.

                                      As for try... no. Take what the D gives. Mix it up. Trying to target a WR often ends badly.

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @tour2ma said:

                                      lol.. Who's next? Melanie?

                                      With Candles in the Rain

                                      Austin is essentially seems to have settled into the "possession" role. Which for his size and relative lack of speed seems appropriate.

                                      As for try... no. Take what the D gives. Mix it up. Trying to target a WR often ends badly.

                                      We will target Gordon when he returns.

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                                        @slimdawg said:

                                        If I remember correctly, Cincinnati wanted to resign him but Cleveland offered him more money than Cincinatti was willing to match. Also I believe we will end up having to give Cincinatti a compensatory pick.

                                        @thaak said:

                                        We won't have to give Cincinnati anything. The NFL hands out compensatory picks.

                                        And while the algorithm for how compensatory picks are handed out is convoluted at best, I don't believe an undrafted free agent will get you anything. Compensatory picks are handed out based on the drafted position of the free agents you lose.

                                        @manzier said:

                                        Nope, no compensatory pick. Just a FA signing.

                                        for clarification, Cinci tendered an 'Exclusive Rights FA' contract, meaning they had first refusal on any contract; if they refuse, they are entitled to a compensatory pick equivalent to where the player was drafted. However, since Hawkins was a UDFA, no pick is 'traded'.

                                        We'd be in the same position with Gipson, FWIW.

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                                        ThaakT Thaak wrote on last edited by
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                                        @gftchris said:

                                        for clarification, Cinci tendered an 'Exclusive Rights FA' contract, meaning they had first refusal on any contract; if they refuse, they are entitled to a compensatory pick equivalent to where the player was drafted. However, since Hawkins was a UDFA, no pick is 'traded'.

                                        We'd be in the same position with Gipson, FWIW.

                                        Not to be nit-picky here, but compensatory is the wrong terminology here. They would have been compensated with a pick equal to where he was drafted. So if he were drafted as a 3rd rounder, and they failed to match the Brown's offer, they would have owed Cincinnati a 3rd round pick.

                                        Compensated with a pick is different than compensatory picks. Maybe not in plain English, but in NFL football business jargon it is.

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                                          @thaak said:

                                          We won't have to give Cincinnati anything. The NFL hands out compensatory picks.

                                          And while the algorithm for how compensatory picks are handed out is convoluted at best, I don't believe an undrafted free agent will get you anything. Compensatory picks are handed out based on the drafted position of the free agents you lose.

                                          Gotcha, I had it in my head that it was all about the players production the next year.

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                                          ThaakT Thaak wrote on last edited by
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                                          @slimdawg said:

                                          Gotcha, I had it in my head that it was all about the players production the next year.

                                          Trades are often done in such a way that a team can owe a pick within a range based on production for the new team.

                                          But this has nothing to do with signing a free agent.

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