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Browns going to franchise Sean Jones?

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  • ITHIKAI ITHIKA

    It will be a huge loss if we let Jones get away. He will be a Pro Bowl Safety and his best days are in front of him!

    sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on
    #20

    @ithika said:

    It will be a huge loss if we let Jones get away. He will be a Pro Bowl Safety and his best days are in front of him!

    and his character and attitude are great. he doesn't complain that i've ever heard, leads by example, and he's aggressive against the run. he makes picks and tackles well too. he's actually one of my favorite players......i'll admit i'd be pretty bummed if he left.

  • ? Guest

    Yeah, those are the numbers. And according to one report, the $2.4M base salary is guaranteed.

    sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on
    #21

    Aloysius said:

    Yeah, those are the numbers. And according to one report, the $2.4M base salary is guaranteed.

    thanks A. like you said earlier, i hope they can come to some agreement. paying someone 2.4M to leave is a terrible business move! this seems to be a theme in Cleveland lately.

    i'd be fine w/ the 4.4M you suggested Aloysius. sure hope JLew is. 😎

    **crosses fingers**

    seriously though, just look at him! you wanna tackle that guy?!?

  • GeechG Geech

    I am somewhat biased. Sean Jones is the guy that I wanted the Browns to draft in the 2nd round of the 2004 Draft. Safeties used to be cheap to franchise. Not so anymore. It will cost $6,342,000 to Franchise a Safety in 2009. Do we really want to pay that much for a Safety? Is Jones really that good?

    If it's true what the author of that article said, that "a very good front seven would propel Jones to the Pro Bowl," then it would be wise to franchise Jones and get him signed long term at around $4m per year with incentives that could make the pay higher.

    Generally, starting Safeties are easy to find in the 2nd round. You're not likely to get a Sean Payton, Roy Williams, or Troy Polamalu in the 2nd, but a quality starter can be found rather easily in the 2nd round of most Drafts. Although, I think the amount of 2009's prospects is a bit thinner than usual.

    'nfldraftbible.com said:

    Designated NFL Franchise & Transition Tags For 2009

    Quarterback

    Franchise: $14.651M

    Transition: $12.440M

    Running Back

    Franchise: $6.621M

    Transition: $5.925M

    Wide Receiver

    Franchise: $9.884M

    Transition: $8.393M

    Tight End

    Franchise: $4.462M

    Transition: $4.065M

    Offensive Linemen

    Franchise: $8.451M

    Transition: $7.744M

    Defensive Tackle

    Franchise: $6.058M

    Transition: $5.45M

    Defensive End

    Franchise: $8.991M

    Transition: $7.777M

    Linebacker

    Franchise: $8.304M

    Transition: $7.480M

    Safety

    Franchise: $6.342M

    Transition: $5.130M

    Cornerback

    Franchise: $9.957M

    Transition: $8.374M

    Kicker/Punter

    Franchise: $2.483M

    Transition: $2.264M

    http://www.nfldraftbible.com/All-Access-Fo...n_salaries.html

    -Al

    R roach wrote on
    #22

    @geech said:

    I am somewhat biased. Sean Jones is the guy that I wanted the Browns to draft in the 2nd round of the 2004 Draft. Safeties used to be cheap to franchise. Not so anymore. It will cost $6,342,000 to Franchise a Safety in 2009. Do we really want to pay that much for a Safety? Is Jones really that good?

    No. He's too soft for that kind of money. Good riddance.

  • R roach

    @geech said:

    I am somewhat biased. Sean Jones is the guy that I wanted the Browns to draft in the 2nd round of the 2004 Draft. Safeties used to be cheap to franchise. Not so anymore. It will cost $6,342,000 to Franchise a Safety in 2009. Do we really want to pay that much for a Safety? Is Jones really that good?

    No. He's too soft for that kind of money. Good riddance.

    sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on
    #23

    @roach said:

    No. He's too soft for that kind of money. Good riddance.

    so how would you fill the void roach? a Pool/Adams tandem possibly?

    Y R 2 Replies
  • sisky fringoS sisky fringo

    @roach said:

    No. He's too soft for that kind of money. Good riddance.

    so how would you fill the void roach? a Pool/Adams tandem possibly?

    Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on
    #24

    @sisky-fringo said:

    so how would you fill the void roach? a Pool/Adams tandem possibly?

    Neither could play SS. The best in FA is Phillips but you also have guys like Jerrod Page, Will Allen and James Butler. There are also some very good SS that will be available in round 2 headed by Patrick Chung, who I love. Then again, it would be important to have some additional picks from a Anderson trade because there will be some nice looking LBs there in the 2nd round also.

    It will be interesting to see how this staff goes with this situation. I don't think they will franchise Jones and pay him over $6 million.

  • L lambdo wrote on
    #25

    I think it's a wise move to franchise him. We are not getting better at DB by letting him go. Even the bean counting accountants would have to agree with that ..

  • Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on
    #26

    I guess the new staff has a different opinion because it doesn't look like he is going to be tagged. Butler from the Giants is a good option and way cheaper. Butler is a player also. I'd like to have him. I think he has better cover skills then Jones.

  • Y YtownBrownsBacker

    I guess the new staff has a different opinion because it doesn't look like he is going to be tagged. Butler from the Giants is a good option and way cheaper. Butler is a player also. I'd like to have him. I think he has better cover skills then Jones.

    ? AdaM wrote on
    #27

    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    I guess the new staff has a different opinion because it doesn't look like he is going to be tagged. Butler from the Giants is a good option and way cheaper. Butler is a player also. I'd like to have him. I think he has better cover skills then Jones.

    I want my safety to lay the wood and be a ball hawk, corners cover.

    ? Y 2 Replies
  • ? Guest

    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    I guess the new staff has a different opinion because it doesn't look like he is going to be tagged. Butler from the Giants is a good option and way cheaper. Butler is a player also. I'd like to have him. I think he has better cover skills then Jones.

    I want my safety to lay the wood and be a ball hawk, corners cover.

    ? Masters wrote on
    #28

    AdaM said:

    I want my safety to lay the wood and be a ball hawk, corners cover.

    Troy P and Ed Reed cover.

  • J JewDago wrote on
    #29

    well, they didn't franchise him. think we're going after yeremiah bell?

  • ? Guest

    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    I guess the new staff has a different opinion because it doesn't look like he is going to be tagged. Butler from the Giants is a good option and way cheaper. Butler is a player also. I'd like to have him. I think he has better cover skills then Jones.

    I want my safety to lay the wood and be a ball hawk, corners cover.

    Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on
    #30

    AdaM said:

    I want my safety to lay the wood and be a ball hawk, corners cover.

    Jones hasn't shown that "lay the wood" play for quite a while. If he did, I'm sure he would be looking at a new contract. He stopped hitting and can't cover and leaves the corners on an island too often.

    Jones's has knee problems and none of us know if their's a problem there or not. Also, how much has that knee problem slowed him down? That is something I'm sure the coaches weigh in making their decision.

  • sisky fringoS sisky fringo

    @roach said:

    No. He's too soft for that kind of money. Good riddance.

    so how would you fill the void roach? a Pool/Adams tandem possibly?

    R roach wrote on
    #31

    @sisky-fringo said:

    so how would you fill the void roach? a Pool/Adams tandem possibly?

    Sure that is worth exploring. i don't think the solution is necessarily on the current roster.

  • R roach wrote on
    #32

    BTW, i'd give Cribbs a look if he's up to it. We know the guy can tackle. i have no idea if he has cover skills.

  • R roach wrote on
    #33

    Sorry to keep adding to this.........

    What's the signficance of Feb 19?

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