Where did this team come from?
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Heckert was our best GM since the return... by far. I'm not mad with Farmer, but I wonder what could have happened if Holmgren would've kept Mangini on with Heckert putting the team together?? I know it's speculative and a waste of energy, but I remember the day they announced that Pat Shurmur was taking over for Mangini, and I literally almost vomited in my mouth... I tried to defend the guy, as I always do, but that was a hard one...
Also, the 2012 draft is a head-scratcher. Given Hecker's awesome positive influence on this team, it's impossible for me to believe he had anything to do with trading up for Richardson or drafting Weeden at 22... If you ever saw the movie Draft Day, I can see Hecker being Kostner's character and fat a** Holmgren being the Owner who's trying to "make a splash."
But I keep reading about the "trade down" to get Gilbert, and people talking about the "Browns track record" drafting... Well look at this list, nobody has been given any time to put a team together, and nobody has been our GM long enough to even develop a "track record"... Just because the helmet stays the same, doesn't mean this is the same organization...
Just some thoughts...
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Heckert was our best GM since the return... by far. I'm not mad with Farmer, but I wonder what could have happened if Holmgren would've kept Mangini on with Heckert putting the team together?? I know it's speculative and a waste of energy, but I remember the day they announced that Pat Shurmur was taking over for Mangini, and I literally almost vomited in my mouth... I tried to defend the guy, as I always do, but that was a hard one...
Also, the 2012 draft is a head-scratcher. Given Hecker's awesome positive influence on this team, it's impossible for me to believe he had anything to do with trading up for Richardson or drafting Weeden at 22... If you ever saw the movie Draft Day, I can see Hecker being Kostner's character and fat a** Holmgren being the Owner who's trying to "make a splash."
But I keep reading about the "trade down" to get Gilbert, and people talking about the "Browns track record" drafting... Well look at this list, nobody has been given any time to put a team together, and nobody has been our GM long enough to even develop a "track record"... Just because the helmet stays the same, doesn't mean this is the same organization...
Just some thoughts...
Heckert was our best GM since the return... by far. I'm not mad with Farmer, but I wonder what could have happened if Holmgren would've kept Mangini on with Heckert putting the team together?? I know it's speculative and a waste of energy, but I remember the day they announced that Pat Shurmur was taking over for Mangini, and I literally almost vomited in my mouth... I tried to defend the guy, as I always do, but that was a hard one...
Also, the 2012 draft is a head-scratcher. Given Hecker's awesome positive influence on this team, it's impossible for me to believe he had anything to do with trading up for Richardson or drafting Weeden at 22... If you ever saw the movie Draft Day, I can see Hecker being Kostner's character and fat a** Holmgren being the Owner who's trying to "make a splash."
But I keep reading about the "trade down" to get Gilbert, and people talking about the "Browns track record" drafting... Well look at this list, nobody has been given any time to put a team together, and nobody has been our GM long enough to even develop a "track record"... Just because the helmet stays the same, doesn't mean this is the same organization...
Just some thoughts...
Heckert may have been the best since the return, but he wasn't very good.
Haden, ward his first year which turned out good - Everything else about 2010 pretty much a stinker. 2011 we had Taylor, sheard, Cameron, Skrine. Still a bit of average. 2012 is a fail minus a couple like Benji, winn.
We're better off now and heckert wasn't as good as some people believe.
Mangina didn't get a fair shake, but the belichik disciples haven't tended to turn out successful anywhere.
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Pretty cool thread idea, nice job. I believe all of the current Steelers not that any of you give a damn are from Colbert with the exception of MAYBE Keisel. Nice thread once again. You all need to post more threads like this for yourselves in the future. Tour has also been doing a really nice job with his line breakdowns.
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Pretty cool thread idea, nice job. I believe all of the current Steelers not that any of you give a damn are from Colbert with the exception of MAYBE Keisel. Nice thread once again. You all need to post more threads like this for yourselves in the future. Tour has also been doing a really nice job with his line breakdowns.
Pretty cool thread idea, nice job. I believe all of the current Steelers not that any of you give a damn are from Colbert with the exception of MAYBE Keisel. Nice thread once again. You all need to post more threads like this for yourselves in the future. Tour has also been doing a really nice job with his line breakdowns.
Curious, how long has Colbert been there and who was before him? And did old man Rooney used to make picks back in the day? cause Im wondering who picked all those HOF 70's players.
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Pretty cool thread idea, nice job. I believe all of the current Steelers not that any of you give a damn are from Colbert with the exception of MAYBE Keisel. Nice thread once again. You all need to post more threads like this for yourselves in the future. Tour has also been doing a really nice job with his line breakdowns.
Curious, how long has Colbert been there and who was before him? And did old man Rooney used to make picks back in the day? cause Im wondering who picked all those HOF 70's players.
Curious, how long has Colbert been there and who was before him? And did old man Rooney used to make picks back in the day? cause Im wondering who picked all those HOF 70's players.
Dick Haley, Todd Haley's dad was the GM during the Noll Era and is often credited for that 74 draft. Colbert Started in 2000.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Heckert was our best GM since the return... by far. I'm not mad with Farmer, but I wonder what could have happened if Holmgren would've kept Mangini on with Heckert putting the team together?? I know it's speculative and a waste of energy, but I remember the day they announced that Pat Shurmur was taking over for Mangini, and I literally almost vomited in my mouth... I tried to defend the guy, as I always do, but that was a hard one...
Also, the 2012 draft is a head-scratcher. Given Hecker's awesome positive influence on this team, it's impossible for me to believe he had anything to do with trading up for Richardson or drafting Weeden at 22... If you ever saw the movie Draft Day, I can see Hecker being Kostner's character and fat a** Holmgren being the Owner who's trying to "make a splash."
But I keep reading about the "trade down" to get Gilbert, and people talking about the "Browns track record" drafting... Well look at this list, nobody has been given any time to put a team together, and nobody has been our GM long enough to even develop a "track record"... Just because the helmet stays the same, doesn't mean this is the same organization...
Just some thoughts...
Heckert may have been the best since the return, but he wasn't very good.
Haden, ward his first year which turned out good - Everything else about 2010 pretty much a stinker. 2011 we had Taylor, sheard, Cameron, Skrine. Still a bit of average. 2012 is a fail minus a couple like Benji, winn.
We're better off now and heckert wasn't as good as some people believe.
Mangina didn't get a fair shake, but the belichik disciples haven't tended to turn out successful anywhere.
Heckert may have been the best since the return, but he wasn't very good.
Haden, ward his first year which turned out good - Everything else about 2010 pretty much a stinker. 2011 we had Taylor, sheard, Cameron, Skrine. Still a bit of average. 2012 is a fail minus a couple like Benji, winn.
We're better off now and heckert wasn't as good as some people believe.
Mangina didn't get a fair shake, but the belichik disciples haven't tended to turn out successful anywhere.
That 2011 seems pretty damn good to me. 4 starting caliber players
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Heckert may have been the best since the return, but he wasn't very good.
Haden, ward his first year which turned out good - Everything else about 2010 pretty much a stinker. 2011 we had Taylor, sheard, Cameron, Skrine. Still a bit of average. 2012 is a fail minus a couple like Benji, winn.
We're better off now and heckert wasn't as good as some people believe.
Mangina didn't get a fair shake, but the belichik disciples haven't tended to turn out successful anywhere.
That 2011 seems pretty damn good to me. 4 starting caliber players
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Great thread, thanks for the post.
A very welcome change of pace from the intellectual giants wringing their hands over a backdrop of dreadful, snotty tears mumbling "Watkins this, Manziel that, we coulda, we shoulda.....AAAAHHH IM ANGRY!"
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Good things are going to happen with Farmer. In an older thread I posted the Chiefs draft picks during his tenure from 2006-2012 as director of pro personnel. Can't find it now but the picks can be seen here.
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Looking at this year's moves, I have a lot of faith in Farmer that he will make full use of those extra picks... This team is trending in the right direction...
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Curious, how long has Colbert been there and who was before him? And did old man Rooney used to make picks back in the day? cause Im wondering who picked all those HOF 70's players.
Dick Haley, Todd Haley's dad was the GM during the Noll Era and is often credited for that 74 draft. Colbert Started in 2000.
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Curious, how long has Colbert been there and who was before him? And did old man Rooney used to make picks back in the day? cause Im wondering who picked all those HOF 70's players.
Dick Haley, Todd Haley's dad was the GM during the Noll Era and is often credited for that 74 draft. Colbert Started in 2000.
Dick Haley, Todd Haley's dad was the GM during the Noll Era and is often credited for that 74 draft. Colbert Started in 2000.
Already found this on Wikipedia(your answer is almost word for word too, strange eh?), but thanks anyway.
I could've sworn that Tom Donahoe and I think the other guy was a Tom or Bill Modrak.. when Cowher came in.
Thanks Nickers. Thats what I was looking for. It was Donahoe who was in there before Colbert, but I couldn't remember his name.
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Dick Haley, Todd Haley's dad was the GM during the Noll Era and is often credited for that 74 draft. Colbert Started in 2000.
Already found this on Wikipedia(your answer is almost word for word too, strange eh?), but thanks anyway.
I could've sworn that Tom Donahoe and I think the other guy was a Tom or Bill Modrak.. when Cowher came in.
Thanks Nickers. Thats what I was looking for. It was Donahoe who was in there before Colbert, but I couldn't remember his name.
Already found this on Wikipedia(your answer is almost word for word too, strange eh?), but thanks anyway.
Thanks Nickers. Thats what I was looking for. It was Donahoe who was in there before Colbert, but I couldn't remember his name.
How many ways can you word the above? Would you like it more in novel form? How about a haiku?
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