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  • you run a fucking toss play right at Watt, every freakin time.... Its like we wanted to lose.

  • Running at Watt was not the issue.

    Running around him? Different story...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Stopping the run was the problem

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • Browns149B Browns149

    Stopping the run was the problem

    @browns149 said:

    Stopping the run was the problem

    Yep, one of many unfortunately.

  • They didn't run the ball enough. Stick with the run! Hoyer threw 50 times. Some game plan.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
  • Opal312O Opal312

    They didn't run the ball enough. Stick with the run! Hoyer threw 50 times. Some game plan.

    @opal312 said:

    They didn't run the ball enough. Stick with the run! Hoyer threw 50 times. Some game plan.

    Amen

  • so this has been the Browns problem since 1999

    They can't run on offense

    They can't stop the run on defense

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Being down a couple TDs in Q4 tends to lead to passing...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • We almost gave up 100 yds rushing to Blue in the first half, and it didn't get better after that.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Being down a couple TDs in Q4 tends to lead to passing...

    @tour2ma said:

    Being down a couple TDs in Q4 tends to lead to passing...

    And that leads to the other team running, and we couldn't stop them from running

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Running at Watt was not the issue.

    Running around him? Different story...

    @tour2ma said:

    Running at Watt was not the issue.

    Running around him? Different story...

    I swear we must have run like 7 sweeps to the right. Idiotic.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Being down a couple TDs in Q4 tends to lead to passing...

    @tour2ma said:

    Being down a couple TDs in Q4 tends to lead to passing...

    Shanny got away from the run game before it was a multiple possession game. For example, it was 14-7 and Crow went 11yds on 2 carries and Shanny then called 3 passes in a row, including the flea-flicker.

    It's been my biggest -and really only criticism of Shanny this year, as he has done this multiple times.

  • Crow's rushing breakdown:

    0/00 WL

    1/03 TL: 3,

    5/37 GL: 35, 2, -1, -1, 2

    0/00 C :

    4/16 GR: 8, 9, 1, -2

    4/07 TR: 0,-1, 7, 1

    0/00 WR:

    14/63 ==> 4.50 YPC

    Q1

    S1 Crowell right tackle to CLE 30 for no gain (94-R.Pickett). Pitch Out

    S1 Crowell right tackle to CLE 41 for -1 yards (99-J.Watt). Pitch Out

    S2 Crowell left guard to HOU 45 for 35 yards (38-D.Manning).

    S3 Crowell right guard to CLE 28 for 8 yards (21-K.Lewis; 36-D.Swearinger). Pitch Out

    Q2

    S3 Crowell left guard to HOU 30 for 2 yards (90-J.Clowney). Pitch Out

    S4 Crowell right guard to CLE 41 for 3 yards (58-B.Reed; 56-B.Cushing). PENALTY on CLE-77-J.Greco, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at CLE 38 - No Play. Penalty on CLE-72-M.Schwartz, Offensive Holding, declined. pitchout

    S4 Crowell right tackle to HOU 35 for 7 yards (24-J.Joseph).

    S4 Crowell left tackle to HOU 32 for 3 yards (93-J.Crick).

    S5 Crowell left guard to HOU 44 for -1 yards (90-J.Clowney).

    S5 Crowell left guard to HOU 20 for -1 yards (56-B.Cushing). FUMBLES

    S6 Kneel

    Q3

    S7 Crowell right guard to CLE 29 for 9 yards (58-B.Reed).

    S7 Crowell right guard to CLE 30 for 1 yard (38-D.Manning).

    S8 Crowell right guard to HOU 49 for -2 yards (50-A.Dent). pitchout

    S9 -none-

    Q4

    S10 Crowell left guard to CLE 12 for 2 yards (97-J.Pagan). Pitch Out

    S10 Crowell right tackle to HOU 22 for 1 yard (94-R.Pickett).

    S11 -none-

    S12 -none-

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Here are the outcomes of only balls that were pitched to the right.

    Quarter 1

    13:49 0 yards (Crowell)

    12:47 -1 yard (Crowell)

    00:30 8 yards (Crowell)

    Quarter 2

    11:36 3 yards (Crowell, called back because of holding penalty on Greco vs Watt)

    Quarter 3

    8:49 -2 yards (Crowell)

    5:12 -2 yards (West)

    3:52 -6 yards (Tate)

    Here are the outcomes of pitches to the left.

    Quarter 1

    14:12 2 yards (Crowell)

    Quarter 2

    4:44 7 yards (West)

    Quarter 4

    9:33 2 yards (Crowell)

    tl;dr - we averaged 0 yards on 7 attempts when pitching the ball to the right (plus a holding penalty because Watt overmatched our right side), averaged 3.67 yards on 3 attempts when pitching the ball to the left

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