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  • Browns149B Browns149

    Stopping the run was the problem

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    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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    @browns149 said:

    Stopping the run was the problem

    Yep, one of many unfortunately.

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      Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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      They didn't run the ball enough. Stick with the run! Hoyer threw 50 times. Some game plan.

      DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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        They didn't run the ball enough. Stick with the run! Hoyer threw 50 times. Some game plan.

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        @opal312 said:

        They didn't run the ball enough. Stick with the run! Hoyer threw 50 times. Some game plan.

        Amen

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          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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          so this has been the Browns problem since 1999

          They can't run on offense

          They can't stop the run on defense

          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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            Being down a couple TDs in Q4 tends to lead to passing...

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              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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              We almost gave up 100 yds rushing to Blue in the first half, and it didn't get better after that.

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                Being down a couple TDs in Q4 tends to lead to passing...

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                @tour2ma said:

                Being down a couple TDs in Q4 tends to lead to passing...

                And that leads to the other team running, and we couldn't stop them from running

                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                  Running at Watt was not the issue.

                  Running around him? Different story...

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                  @tour2ma said:

                  Running at Watt was not the issue.

                  Running around him? Different story...

                  I swear we must have run like 7 sweeps to the right. Idiotic.

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                    Being down a couple TDs in Q4 tends to lead to passing...

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                    @tour2ma said:

                    Being down a couple TDs in Q4 tends to lead to passing...

                    Shanny got away from the run game before it was a multiple possession game. For example, it was 14-7 and Crow went 11yds on 2 carries and Shanny then called 3 passes in a row, including the flea-flicker.

                    It's been my biggest -and really only criticism of Shanny this year, as he has done this multiple times.

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                      Crow's rushing breakdown:

                      0/00 WL

                      1/03 TL: 3,

                      5/37 GL: 35, 2, -1, -1, 2

                      0/00 C :

                      4/16 GR: 8, 9, 1, -2

                      4/07 TR: 0,-1, 7, 1

                      0/00 WR:

                      14/63 ==> 4.50 YPC

                      Q1

                      S1 Crowell right tackle to CLE 30 for no gain (94-R.Pickett). Pitch Out

                      S1 Crowell right tackle to CLE 41 for -1 yards (99-J.Watt). Pitch Out

                      S2 Crowell left guard to HOU 45 for 35 yards (38-D.Manning).

                      S3 Crowell right guard to CLE 28 for 8 yards (21-K.Lewis; 36-D.Swearinger). Pitch Out

                      Q2

                      S3 Crowell left guard to HOU 30 for 2 yards (90-J.Clowney). Pitch Out

                      S4 Crowell right guard to CLE 41 for 3 yards (58-B.Reed; 56-B.Cushing). PENALTY on CLE-77-J.Greco, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at CLE 38 - No Play. Penalty on CLE-72-M.Schwartz, Offensive Holding, declined. pitchout

                      S4 Crowell right tackle to HOU 35 for 7 yards (24-J.Joseph).

                      S4 Crowell left tackle to HOU 32 for 3 yards (93-J.Crick).

                      S5 Crowell left guard to HOU 44 for -1 yards (90-J.Clowney).

                      S5 Crowell left guard to HOU 20 for -1 yards (56-B.Cushing). FUMBLES

                      S6 Kneel

                      Q3

                      S7 Crowell right guard to CLE 29 for 9 yards (58-B.Reed).

                      S7 Crowell right guard to CLE 30 for 1 yard (38-D.Manning).

                      S8 Crowell right guard to HOU 49 for -2 yards (50-A.Dent). pitchout

                      S9 -none-

                      Q4

                      S10 Crowell left guard to CLE 12 for 2 yards (97-J.Pagan). Pitch Out

                      S10 Crowell right tackle to HOU 22 for 1 yard (94-R.Pickett).

                      S11 -none-

                      S12 -none-

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                        VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                        Here are the outcomes of only balls that were pitched to the right.

                        Quarter 1

                        13:49 0 yards (Crowell)

                        12:47 -1 yard (Crowell)

                        00:30 8 yards (Crowell)

                        Quarter 2

                        11:36 3 yards (Crowell, called back because of holding penalty on Greco vs Watt)

                        Quarter 3

                        8:49 -2 yards (Crowell)

                        5:12 -2 yards (West)

                        3:52 -6 yards (Tate)

                        Here are the outcomes of pitches to the left.

                        Quarter 1

                        14:12 2 yards (Crowell)

                        Quarter 2

                        4:44 7 yards (West)

                        Quarter 4

                        9:33 2 yards (Crowell)

                        tl;dr - we averaged 0 yards on 7 attempts when pitching the ball to the right (plus a holding penalty because Watt overmatched our right side), averaged 3.67 yards on 3 attempts when pitching the ball to the left

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