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  • Could very well be true, Mud.

    I've never heard Pettine state any objection to a QB starting his 2nd year in the league.

    @tour2ma said:

    Could very well be true, Mud.

    I've never heard Pettine state any objection to a QB starting his 2nd year in the league.

    And I promise not repeat it 10,271 times. History doesn't care if Im right. 😉

  • Agreed, I don't see this FO giving Hoyer the kind of contract he will want with Johnny waiting in the wings. Hoyer has given this team a lot, but unless he turns into Joe Montana over the remaining ten games or backs down from his contract expectations (even more unlikely than the first option), his days in Cleveland are numbered.

    The thing that Johnny fans are complaining about will only help his career IMO. Allowing the young rookie time to adjust to the NFL can only be seen as a positive in my book.

  • Agreed, I don't see this FO giving Hoyer the kind of contract he will want with Johnny waiting in the wings. Hoyer has given this team a lot, but unless he turns into Joe Montana over the remaining ten games or backs down from his contract expectations (even more unlikely than the first option), his days in Cleveland are numbered.

    The thing that Johnny fans are complaining about will only help his career IMO. Allowing the young rookie time to adjust to the NFL can only be seen as a positive in my book.

    @roycerolls said:

    Agreed, I don't see this FO giving Hoyer the kind of contract he will want with Johnny waiting in the wings. Hoyer has given this team a lot, but unless he turns into Joe Montana over the remaining ten games ...

    If we in fact get to play another "10 games", then I think Hoyer may well be able to name his price. 😉

  • @roycerolls said:

    Agreed, I don't see this FO giving Hoyer the kind of contract he will want with Johnny waiting in the wings. Hoyer has given this team a lot, but unless he turns into Joe Montana over the remaining ten games ...

    If we in fact get to play another "10 games", then I think Hoyer may well be able to name his price. 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    If we in fact get to play another "10 games", then I think Hoyer may well be able to name his price. 😉

    He could pull a Joe Flacco on the Browns FA...lol

  • @tour2ma said:

    If we in fact get to play another "10 games", then I think Hoyer may well be able to name his price. 😉

    He could pull a Joe Flacco on the Browns FA...lol

    @purplepantywaste said:

    He could pull a Joe Flacco on the Browns FA...lol

    If Hoyer plays another 10 games, and goes 4-0 in the last 4, he can pull a Flacco all he wants. In Cleveland, they'd build statues of the guy.

    Flacco has a huge salary, but every team would have given him the same deal after that post season.

  • Hoyers completion percentage will keep the contract reasonable. If we finish with a winning record, ragrdless of a playoff birth I can see giving him a 4 year 35-40 mill deal. He gets more if he wins in the playoffs. Or he can crap the bed, lose the job to Manziel, and be playing with the coach hes already helped win, in Houston.

  • @purplepantywaste said:

    He could pull a Joe Flacco on the Browns FA...lol

    If Hoyer plays another 10 games, and goes 4-0 in the last 4, he can pull a Flacco all he wants. In Cleveland, they'd build statues of the guy.

    Flacco has a huge salary, but every team would have given him the same deal after that post season.

    @bbedward said:

    If Hoyer plays another 10 games, and goes 4-0 in the last 4, he can pull a Flacco all he wants. In Cleveland, they'd build statues of the guy.

    Flacco has a huge salary, but every team would have given him the same deal after that post season.

    I don't think so - while I wasn't a member I did read this board from time to time around that late 2012 season and some peoples consensus was that both a dominating Oline and Anquan Boldin playing out of his mind

    had more to do with that playoff run than anything.

    If certain people on this board felt that way, I guarantee there were/are NFL front office exec's saying the same thing. The Ratbirds were in a familiar position though of walking away from a SuperBowl winning QB.

    Only this time they put 100Mil on their signal caller. Really hasn't done much for them since then either.

  • @bbedward said:

    If Hoyer plays another 10 games, and goes 4-0 in the last 4, he can pull a Flacco all he wants. In Cleveland, they'd build statues of the guy.

    Flacco has a huge salary, but every team would have given him the same deal after that post season.

    I don't think so - while I wasn't a member I did read this board from time to time around that late 2012 season and some peoples consensus was that both a dominating Oline and Anquan Boldin playing out of his mind

    had more to do with that playoff run than anything.

    If certain people on this board felt that way, I guarantee there were/are NFL front office exec's saying the same thing. The Ratbirds were in a familiar position though of walking away from a SuperBowl winning QB.

    Only this time they put 100Mil on their signal caller. Really hasn't done much for them since then either.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I don't think so - while I wasn't a member I did read this board from time to time around that late 2012 season and some peoples consensus was that both a dominating Oline and Anquan Boldin playing out of his mind

    had more to do with that playoff run than anything.

    If certain people on this board felt that way, I guarantee there were/are NFL front office exec's saying the same thing. The Ratbirds were in a familiar position though of walking away from a SuperBowl winning QB.

    Only this time they put 100Mil on their signal caller. Really hasn't done much for them since then either.

    Flacco had a great postseason though, it would have been madness to cut ties after a SB win. But he did get overpaid, anyway.

  • @purplepantywaste said:

    He could pull a Joe Flacco on the Browns FA...lol

    If Hoyer plays another 10 games, and goes 4-0 in the last 4, he can pull a Flacco all he wants. In Cleveland, they'd build statues of the guy.

    Flacco has a huge salary, but every team would have given him the same deal after that post season.

    @bbedward said:

    If Hoyer plays another 10 games, and goes 4-0 in the last 4, he can pull a Flacco all he wants. In Cleveland, they'd build statues of the guy.

    Flacco has a huge salary, but every team would have given him the same deal after that post season.

    Yes. Ravens could have saved money by giving him the 18 mill a year salary he wanted before that season, he gambled in himself and won.

  • @bbedward said:

    If Hoyer plays another 10 games, and goes 4-0 in the last 4, he can pull a Flacco all he wants. In Cleveland, they'd build statues of the guy.

    Flacco has a huge salary, but every team would have given him the same deal after that post season.

    I don't think so - while I wasn't a member I did read this board from time to time around that late 2012 season and some peoples consensus was that both a dominating Oline and Anquan Boldin playing out of his mind

    had more to do with that playoff run than anything.

    If certain people on this board felt that way, I guarantee there were/are NFL front office exec's saying the same thing. The Ratbirds were in a familiar position though of walking away from a SuperBowl winning QB.

    Only this time they put 100Mil on their signal caller. Really hasn't done much for them since then either.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I don't think so - while I wasn't a member I did read this board from time to time around that late 2012 season and some peoples consensus was that both a dominating Oline and Anquan Boldin playing out of his mind

    had more to do with that playoff run than anything.

    If certain people on this board felt that way, I guarantee there were/are NFL front office exec's saying the same thing. The Ratbirds were in a familiar position though of walking away from a SuperBowl winning QB.

    Only this time they put 100Mil on their signal caller. Really hasn't done much for them since then either.

    Boldin really didn't do as well as puerile make it out to be...I mean he did very well but Honestly the offense was really balanced and that was the key.

    Colts took away Torrey and Boldin torched them. Broncos took away Boldin, and Torrey smoked them. Patriots then tried to zone, especially after talib watalib injured, to make us earn every yard and in the second half Flacco played lights out and drove us down the field play by play over and over. Niners just didn't match our intensity on both sides of the ball until Goodell pulled the plug - I mean the lights went out and stole our momentum.

    Boldin was a key piece, but not THE KEY piece.