How many games would we have to lose before you bench Hoyer
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I love this.
Finally people can see how ridiculous the Hoyer Lovers are. They honestly believe he won this game by himself.
I don't know whats worse, the fact they give him the credit for this win or that they still give Hoyer the credit for the win against Buffalo last year when he left in the 2nd quarter down 10-0. They still count it as a Hoyer win.
Does anyone think Hoyer is a Franchise QB still?
Honestly speak up if you do. Does anyone think hes the Browns starter next year? Speak up if you do I want it on record.I love this.
Finally people can see how ridiculous the Hoyer Lovers are. They honestly believe he won this game by himself.
I don't know whats worse, the fact they give him the credit for this win or that they still give Hoyer the credit for the win against Buffalo last year when he left in the 2nd quarter down 10-0. They still count it as a Hoyer win.
Does anyone think Hoyer is a Franchise QB still?
Honestly speak up if you do. Does anyone think hes the Browns starter next year? Speak up if you do I want it on record.
You have long argued that we should abandon Hoyer now because he is not a Super Bowl capable QB and the clock is ticking on JM's tryout.
I, and others, have long argued that now is not the time to take a JM test drive, because we are in the playoff hunt this year. Should that hunt end, then by all means, start JM.
Suddenly now we "are challenged" to throw in with Hoyer for 2015 as well? Sorry, it does not work that way.
That you believe the position you now challenge those who have disagreed with you to take is the opposite of your long-term stance shows, once and for all, how truly deluded you are.
Should we ultimately fall from playoff contention this year and JM starts, then I and others will legitimately be able to claim something you will never to able to claim, i.e., we were right.
As for game win credit... sorry, Hoyer gets it for the final drive.
Just as Austin does for catching his last chance and having the good sense to get down quickly...
Just as Barn does for his nice catch over the middle...
Just as Gordo does for his fine catch over the middle...
I can keep going if you like, but bottom line team win. Endangered by some poor throws... no doubt about it, but a team win nonetheless.
You are not to be taken seriously any longer.
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MikeThomas777,
That's actually one of the funniest fucking things I've ever read.
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With the team 7-4 they aren't going to make a change, especially with a first year head coach.
No shit Shurlock!
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@everlastingxxx said:
I only saw pieces of the game on The Redzone. I got to see Hoyer get sacked once, throw two interceptions and watch his game winning drive. The guy is such a mixed bag. Great win for Brown fans. Playoff hopes still alive.
Mixed bag for sure. The playoff hopes will be decided against Cincinnati at home and in Baltimore week 17.
Mixed bag for sure. The playoff hopes will be decided against Cincinnati at home and in Baltimore week 17.
I actually think and hope the Browns make it. I don't hate Hoyer. I would be thrilled if he won the super bowl and got an extension, whether it means Johnny gets traded or not. We all know Johnny will get his chance to prove himself when the time comes.
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Well, I thin k there are a few separate arguements all getting rolled into one
....should Hoyer start? and Is Hoyer a franchise qb? are 2 different questions with different answers(yes/no).....then add in the 12 other JFF perspectives(great, terrible, start, dont start, trade, etc) and you have the endless discussion that just keeps giving & giving
Well, I thin k there are a few separate arguements all getting rolled into one
....should Hoyer start? and Is Hoyer a franchise qb? are 2 different questions with different answers(yes/no).....then add in the 12 other JFF perspectives(great, terrible, start, dont start, trade, etc) and you have the endless discussion that just keeps giving & giving
Last gasp of a deluded mind, Mud...
... and no, not yours... this time...

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once you were 6-3 with 7 to go Hoyer keeps the team. It's going to be an interesting offseason and we'll see what Farmer is made of. If you give Hoyer a legit contract you've either flushed 20-25 million down the toilet or Manziel isn't really their guy.
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once you were 6-3 with 7 to go Hoyer keeps the team. It's going to be an interesting offseason and we'll see what Farmer is made of. If you give Hoyer a legit contract you've either flushed 20-25 million down the toilet or Manziel isn't really their guy.
once you were 6-3 with 7 to go Hoyer keeps the team. It's going to be an interesting offseason and we'll see what Farmer is made of. If you give Hoyer a legit contract you've either flushed 20-25 million down the toilet or Manziel isn't really their guy.
Baring a deep playoff run and/or improvement from Hoyer it seems pretty obvious what will happen. Hoyer will want a lot of money. The Browns wont give it to him. He signs with another team. Johnny is given a chance.
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Team game.
The Team is currently 7-4
Hoyer as the QB is the Team leader, and is 9-4 in complete games (10-4 started).
Damn, I don't care if he has a 1% completion stat as long as he gets the W.
Look at our D.
We're giving up a shitload of yards, but we're a bit tighter on the points, which helps us to Win.
Just Win Baby !
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Team game.
The Team is currently 7-4
Hoyer as the QB is the Team leader, and is 9-4 in complete games (10-4 started).
Damn, I don't care if he has a 1% completion stat as long as he gets the W.
Look at our D.
We're giving up a shitload of yards, but we're a bit tighter on the points, which helps us to Win.
Just Win Baby !
Team game.
The Team is currently 7-4
Hoyer as the QB is the Team leader, and is 9-4 in complete games (10-4 started).
Damn, I don't care if he has a 1% completion stat as long as he gets the W.
Look at our D.
We're giving up a shitload of yards, but we're a bit tighter on the points, which helps us to Win.
Just Win Baby !
I love Hoyer but last years stats doesn't matter shit.
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Last 6 games 52% Completions 4TDs 7INTs 31st rated QB.
Miller High Life in a Champagne League. -
Team game.
The Team is currently 7-4
Hoyer as the QB is the Team leader, and is 9-4 in complete games (10-4 started).
Damn, I don't care if he has a 1% completion stat as long as he gets the W.
Look at our D.
We're giving up a shitload of yards, but we're a bit tighter on the points, which helps us to Win.
Just Win Baby !
I love Hoyer but last years stats doesn't matter shit.
I love Hoyer but last years stats doesn't matter shit.
Fine.
Hoyer is 7-4 this year = first non double digit loss Season in how many years?
Meant to add on previous post - Aaron Rodgers sat for three years learning, doesn't seem to have hurt him too much.
Can't see it hurting Manziel to sit for a little while seeing as how he only played two years in College and is now up against the Big Boys (NFL).
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Last 6 games 52% Completions 4TDs 7INTs 31st rated QB.
Miller High Life in a Champagne League.Last 6 games 52% Completions 4TDs 7INTs 31st rated QB.
Miller High Life in a Champagne League.
Stockton, a non- Real Browns is going to agree that the last 2 games he hasn't looked good. That being said at 7-4 you hope he continues to learn and can get you to the playoffs. Manziel is a complete unknown at this point and I hope you'd agree that he has looked more like RG3 than Luck against 1st teamers in the pre-season. You gotta stick with the guy who has gotten you there to this point or you'll lose the locker room. If he goes 9-7, then the real decisions will have to be made but as it stands right now you know what you have in Hoyer and if you can get him to 18-30 for 225 1TD and 0 INTs they can win.
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Hoyer will get the rest of the year and sign for BIG $ somewhere else.
Today was my breaking point, no excuses for today, the rest of the team played very well.
Hoyer will get the rest of the year and sign for BIG $ somewhere else.
Today was my breaking point, no excuses for today, the rest of the team played very well.
today was your breaking point?
seems like if someone dropped a glass in china it'd be your breaking point.
you've got to be real young because you have learned to control yourself yet. tomorrow everything will be rosy with you and the birds will be singing.
but right now you're about to blow a gasket because hoyer sucked balls BUT yet the browns won.
who would have thought that another bad game by hoyer would have brought out the JF faithful?
is anyone even going to question why shanny had hoyer throwing in the red zone at the end of two different drives after they ran the ball convincingly down inside the ten? the net result was 3 points and an interception?
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Hoyer will get the rest of the year and sign for BIG $ somewhere else.
Today was my breaking point, no excuses for today, the rest of the team played very well.
today was your breaking point?
seems like if someone dropped a glass in china it'd be your breaking point.
you've got to be real young because you have learned to control yourself yet. tomorrow everything will be rosy with you and the birds will be singing.
but right now you're about to blow a gasket because hoyer sucked balls BUT yet the browns won.
who would have thought that another bad game by hoyer would have brought out the JF faithful?
is anyone even going to question why shanny had hoyer throwing in the red zone at the end of two different drives after they ran the ball convincingly down inside the ten? the net result was 3 points and an interception?
today was your breaking point?
seems like if someone dropped a glass in china it'd be your breaking point.
you've got to be real young because you have learned to control yourself yet. tomorrow everything will be rosy with you and the birds will be singing.
but right now you're about to blow a gasket because hoyer sucked balls BUT yet the browns won.
who would have thought that another bad game by hoyer would have brought out the JF faithful?
is anyone even going to question why shanny had hoyer throwing in the red zone at the end of two different drives after they ran the ball convincingly down inside the ten? the net result was 3 points and an interception?
We won this ball game inspite of Hoyer. He was hot garbage today, if you can't see that you're visually impaired.
The entire team played really well today minus Brian, he even said so himself after the game.
I'm not even calling for Manziel to start but Brian was dogshit today. Nothing with observing that.
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Last 6 games 52% Completions 4TDs 7INTs 31st rated QB.
Miller High Life in a Champagne League.Last 6 games 52% Completions 4TDs 7INTs 31st rated QB.
Miller High Life in a Champagne League.
There it is again!!!
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Hoyer will get the rest of the year and sign for BIG $ somewhere else.
Today was my breaking point, no excuses for today, the rest of the team played very well.
today was your breaking point?
seems like if someone dropped a glass in china it'd be your breaking point.
you've got to be real young because you have learned to control yourself yet. tomorrow everything will be rosy with you and the birds will be singing.
but right now you're about to blow a gasket because hoyer sucked balls BUT yet the browns won.
who would have thought that another bad game by hoyer would have brought out the JF faithful?
is anyone even going to question why shanny had hoyer throwing in the red zone at the end of two different drives after they ran the ball convincingly down inside the ten? the net result was 3 points and an interception?
today was your breaking point?
seems like if someone dropped a glass in china it'd be your breaking point.
Where you been man?
Walter is channeling all his negative energy Hoyer's way today...
Hasn't even mentioned a couple dropped INTs we would have had if whomever dropped them had not been taking plays off as they got paid this week... or something...
Or any dropped passes...
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Last 6 games 52% Completions 4TDs 7INTs 31st rated QB.
Miller High Life in a Champagne League.
There it is again!!!
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today was your breaking point?
seems like if someone dropped a glass in china it'd be your breaking point.
you've got to be real young because you have learned to control yourself yet. tomorrow everything will be rosy with you and the birds will be singing.
but right now you're about to blow a gasket because hoyer sucked balls BUT yet the browns won.
who would have thought that another bad game by hoyer would have brought out the JF faithful?
is anyone even going to question why shanny had hoyer throwing in the red zone at the end of two different drives after they ran the ball convincingly down inside the ten? the net result was 3 points and an interception?
We won this ball game inspite of Hoyer. He was hot garbage today, if you can't see that you're visually impaired.
The entire team played really well today minus Brian, he even said so himself after the game.
I'm not even calling for Manziel to start but Brian was dogshit today. Nothing with observing that.
We won this ball game inspite of Hoyer. He was hot garbage today, if you can't see that you're visually impaired.
The entire team played really well today minus Brian, he even said so himself after the game.
I'm not even calling for Manziel to start but Brian was dogshit today. Nothing with observing that.
oh he sucked donkey balls today for the most part from what i can tell. i know there were a ton of incompletions and 3 picks but i really haven't been able to sit down and watch the replay.
if we were losing by 30 we might have seen a glimpse of johnny but i guess it was close. i question the play calling in the end zone. i'm looking at a couple of long runs into the red zone. crowell had punched it in before, why throw the ball?
yes, i was very disappointed in hoyer's play but the highlights of his last drive squash all that with the win.
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today was your breaking point?
seems like if someone dropped a glass in china it'd be your breaking point.
Where you been man?
Walter is channeling all his negative energy Hoyer's way today...
Hasn't even mentioned a couple dropped INTs we would have had if whomever dropped them had not been taking plays off as they got paid this week... or something...
Or any dropped passes...
Where you been man?
Walter is channeling all his negative energy Hoyer's way today...
Hasn't even mentioned a couple dropped INTs we would have had if whomever dropped them had not been taking plays off as they got paid this week... or something...
Or any dropped passes...
2nd sunday of kissing potential client ass. must have been wild in the tavern.
i'm going to watch the game when the wife hits the hay. now it's time for a friggin drink.
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