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  • @walterwhite said:

    bill.gif

    that needs to be saved and posted when talking about raeplisberger.

    stockton needs medication, that's all. and with treatment he can learn to live amongst the rest of the people that question their sexuality in this society.

    no wait. maybe he can just join a cult where they give up all worldly goods and go into retreat wearing a silk robe and beads which are all purpose? maybe he can start his own cult? yeah the sans brian hoyer cult. he can invoke an anti-hoyer chant hourly while praying to uranus.

  • I think he's a Browns fan. Something got jumbled along the way though. It's pretty evident he cares more about the failure of one guy than the success of our team, just for the sake of being right, l guess.

    It's disheartening, really. He's a smart guy, and l'd love to hear his perspective on many other aspects of the game and revel in the successes of the team with him, but his agenda trumps all.

  • I think he's a Browns fan. Something got jumbled along the way though. It's pretty evident he cares more about the failure of one guy than the success of our team, just for the sake of being right, l guess.

    It's disheartening, really. He's a smart guy, and l'd love to hear his perspective on many other aspects of the game and revel in the successes of the team with him, but his agenda trumps all.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I think he's a Browns fan. Something got jumbled along the way though. It's pretty evident he cares more about the failure of one guy than the success of our team, just for the sake of being right, l guess.

    It's disheartening, really. He's a smart guy, and l'd love to hear his perspective on many other aspects of the game and revel in the successes of the team with him, but his agenda trumps all.

    Oh dear god...

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    I think he's a Browns fan. Something got jumbled along the way though. It's pretty evident he cares more about the failure of one guy than the success of our team, just for the sake of being right, l guess.

    It's disheartening, really. He's a smart guy, and l'd love to hear his perspective on many other aspects of the game and revel in the successes of the team with him, but his agenda trumps all.

    Oh dear god...

    @upper-lip said:

    Oh dear god...

    Suck what?

  • Brian hoyer is a great QB, yes I said great, and I'm goin to leave it at that. Played like poop, then that resilience to lead ANOTHER game winning drive beautifully. He came out and was frustrated with himself post game, excited to see what he does next week. Oh yea, can an administrator please kick this Stockton guy out? When is 'enough is enough'? This is getting ridiculous

    @upper-lip said:

    Brian hoyer is a great QB

    If you really think that, which he's not by any means, what kind of contract would you offer him?

  • @walterwhite said:

    bill.gif

    I hear old bill has been putting his puddin' pop in a lot of flibbety-gibbetys

  • @walterwhite said:

    bill.gif

    I hear old bill has been putting his puddin' pop in a lot of flibbety-gibbetys

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I hear old bill has been putting his puddin' pop in a lot of flibbety-gibbetys

    HAAAAA!

  • @upper-lip said:

    Brian hoyer is a great QB

    If you really think that, which he's not by any means, what kind of contract would you offer him?

    @walterwhite said:

    If you really think that, which he's not by any means, what kind of contract would you offer him?

    I'd start at around 10 mil a year, if I had to I'd go to 12.5. Much higher than that then hello johnny

  • I think he's a Browns fan. Something got jumbled along the way though. It's pretty evident he cares more about the failure of one guy than the success of our team, just for the sake of being right, l guess.

    It's disheartening, really. He's a smart guy, and l'd love to hear his perspective on many other aspects of the game and revel in the successes of the team with him, but his agenda trumps all.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I think he's a Browns fan. Something got jumbled along the way though. It's pretty evident he cares more about the failure of one guy than the success of our team, just for the sake of being right, l guess.

    It's disheartening, really. He's a smart guy, and l'd love to hear his perspective on many other aspects of the game and revel in the successes of the team with him, but his agenda trumps all.

    you are way too nice of a guy.

    i don't know what kind of bullshit deflector you're wearing but mine wore out about 3 days into the first of many stockton rants. the is no conversation there. he doesn't hear you. he's a friggin devil robot placed on earth to make people jump off buildings and throw themselves in front of buses. sorta like the plants and trees in that m. night shylaman bomb of a flick 'the happening'.

  • @walterwhite said:

    If you really think that, which he's not by any means, what kind of contract would you offer him?

    I'd start at around 10 mil a year, if I had to I'd go to 12.5. Much higher than that then hello johnny

    @upper-lip said:

    I'd start at around 10 mil a year, if I had to I'd go to 12.5. Much higher than that then hello johnny

    hahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha 10 million a year? LOL dude you're fucking nuts.

    And why would you give Manziel a contract? He already has one on the cheap dummy

  • We won guys, why all the fighting.

  • @upper-lip said:

    I'd start at around 10 mil a year, if I had to I'd go to 12.5. Much higher than that then hello johnny

    hahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha 10 million a year? LOL dude you're fucking nuts.

    And why would you give Manziel a contract? He already has one on the cheap dummy

    @walterwhite said:

    hahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha 10 million a year? LOL dude you're fucking nuts.

    And why would you give Manziel a contract? He already has one on the cheap dummy

    Yes, 10 million a year for hoyer. I'd be ecstatic to keep him at that price. And what the hell do you mean about manziel? No kidding he's already under contract ....

  • We won guys, why all the fighting.

    @bbedward said:

    We won guys, why all the fighting.

    We didn't win good enough. Wins without a franchise qb aren't worth anything.

  • @walterwhite said:

    hahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha 10 million a year? LOL dude you're fucking nuts.

    And why would you give Manziel a contract? He already has one on the cheap dummy

    Yes, 10 million a year for hoyer. I'd be ecstatic to keep him at that price. And what the hell do you mean about manziel? No kidding he's already under contract ....

    @upper-lip said:

    Yes, 10 million a year for hoyer. I'd be ecstatic to keep him at that price. And what the hell do you mean about manziel? No kidding he's already under contract ....

    I like Brian Hoyers attitude, I like the fact he's considered a leader, and a hometown guy thats won some games for us.

    He will not get that kind of money, period. His agent is going to push him to get that, but he won't get it here.

    He's currently last in completion percentage and in the bottom half of QB rating with only 11 TD's, he's not getting top 15 money, sorry. They look at every little factor when millions of dollars are at stake.

    I would like to see him resigned if he can improve down the stretch on a short term deal but if you expect some 5 year +60 million contract, it's not going to be here.

    I'd like to see Hoyer play good for 2-3 years before so we don't have a Matt Shuab, Matt Flynn, Derek Anderson type situation.

    Giving huge contract to players based off 1 season isn't smart football management

  • @upper-lip said:

    Yes, 10 million a year for hoyer. I'd be ecstatic to keep him at that price. And what the hell do you mean about manziel? No kidding he's already under contract ....

    I like Brian Hoyers attitude, I like the fact he's considered a leader, and a hometown guy thats won some games for us.

    He will not get that kind of money, period. His agent is going to push him to get that, but he won't get it here.

    He's currently last in completion percentage and in the bottom half of QB rating with only 11 TD's, he's not getting top 15 money, sorry. They look at every little factor when millions of dollars are at stake.

    I would like to see him resigned if he can improve down the stretch on a short term deal but if you expect some 5 year +60 million contract, it's not going to be here.

    I'd like to see Hoyer play good for 2-3 years before so we don't have a Matt Shuab, Matt Flynn, Derek Anderson type situation.

    Giving huge contract to players based off 1 season isn't smart football management

    @walterwhite said:

    I like Brian Hoyers attitude, I like the fact he's considered a leader, and a hometown guy thats won some games for us.

    He will not get that kind of money, period. His agent is going to push him to get that, but he won't get it here.

    He's currently last in completion percentage and in the bottom half of QB rating, he's not getting top 15 money, sorry.

    I would like to see him resigned if he can improve down the stretch on a short term deal but if you expect some 5 year +60 million contract, it's not going to be here.

    I don't know where the browns front office guys' heads are at with the QB situation. I'm telling you what I'd do. And like I've said multiple times, I don't give a rats ass what stats tell you, stats are inconsistent and don't tell you all that much when they're relative to other players. I can give you Matt cassels stats in New England and his stats in minny and ask you which QB you think is better. See how this doesn't work? Stats are for autistics. I see what we have in hoyer with his intangibles and mentality. He played like complete poop today, abd him stepping it up again to clean up his mess and lead another game winning drive gave me even more faith in him. Did you see joe Thomas' and josh Gordon's quotes after the game? His teammates love him and believe in him.

  • @walterwhite said:

    I like Brian Hoyers attitude, I like the fact he's considered a leader, and a hometown guy thats won some games for us.

    He will not get that kind of money, period. His agent is going to push him to get that, but he won't get it here.

    He's currently last in completion percentage and in the bottom half of QB rating, he's not getting top 15 money, sorry.

    I would like to see him resigned if he can improve down the stretch on a short term deal but if you expect some 5 year +60 million contract, it's not going to be here.

    I don't know where the browns front office guys' heads are at with the QB situation. I'm telling you what I'd do. And like I've said multiple times, I don't give a rats ass what stats tell you, stats are inconsistent and don't tell you all that much when they're relative to other players. I can give you Matt cassels stats in New England and his stats in minny and ask you which QB you think is better. See how this doesn't work? Stats are for autistics. I see what we have in hoyer with his intangibles and mentality. He played like complete poop today, abd him stepping it up again to clean up his mess and lead another game winning drive gave me even more faith in him. Did you see joe Thomas' and josh Gordon's quotes after the game? His teammates love him and believe in him.

    @upper-lip said:

    I don't know where the browns front office guys' heads are at with the QB situation. I'm telling you what I'd do. And like I've said multiple times, I don't give a rats ass what stats tell you, stats are inconsistent and don't tell you all that much when they're relative to other players. I can give you Matt cassels stats in New England and his stats in minny and ask you which QB you think is better. See how this doesn't work? Stats are for autistics. I see what we have in hoyer with his intangibles and mentality. He played like complete poop today, abd him stepping it up again to clean up his mess and lead another game winning drive gave me even more faith in him. Did you see joe Thomas' and josh Gordon's quotes after the game? His teammates love him and believe in him.

    The only stat I care about is the number in the win columns and Brian is killing it there. Suck it haters!

  • @walterwhite said:

    I like Brian Hoyers attitude, I like the fact he's considered a leader, and a hometown guy thats won some games for us.

    He will not get that kind of money, period. His agent is going to push him to get that, but he won't get it here.

    He's currently last in completion percentage and in the bottom half of QB rating, he's not getting top 15 money, sorry.

    I would like to see him resigned if he can improve down the stretch on a short term deal but if you expect some 5 year +60 million contract, it's not going to be here.

    I don't know where the browns front office guys' heads are at with the QB situation. I'm telling you what I'd do. And like I've said multiple times, I don't give a rats ass what stats tell you, stats are inconsistent and don't tell you all that much when they're relative to other players. I can give you Matt cassels stats in New England and his stats in minny and ask you which QB you think is better. See how this doesn't work? Stats are for autistics. I see what we have in hoyer with his intangibles and mentality. He played like complete poop today, abd him stepping it up again to clean up his mess and lead another game winning drive gave me even more faith in him. Did you see joe Thomas' and josh Gordon's quotes after the game? His teammates love him and believe in him.

    @upper-lip said:

    I don't know where the browns front office guys' heads are at with the QB situation. I'm telling you what I'd do. And like I've said multiple times, I don't give a rats ass what stats tell you, stats are inconsistent and don't tell you all that much when they're relative to other players. I can give you Matt cassels stats in New England and his stats in minny and ask you which QB you think is better. See how this doesn't work? Stats are for autistics. I see what we have in hoyer with his intangibles and mentality. He played like complete poop today, abd him stepping it up again to clean up his mess and lead another game winning drive gave me even more faith in him. Did you see joe Thomas' and josh Gordon's quotes after the game? His teammates love him and believe in him.

    Stats do MATTER especially when it comes down to $MONEY$, NFL management, agents, and contract negotiations.

    My college roommate is currently a sports agent in Miami and you have no idea how critical it is how much stats matter, maybe not to you but to everyone else involved. A missed TD, int, or fumble here, extra 100 yards rushing, extra sack there can be a million(s) dollar swing.

    Who do you think is getting paid more? The QB with 28 TD's and 4 int's with 3000+ yards and 100+ rating

    or the QB with 14 TD's 9 int's < 3000 yards and lower 90 rating????????

    Stats are a reflection of how you play on the field.

    Would you rather have a RB with 1600 yards and averages 5 yards a carry or the running back who runs with heart and has 770 yards and a 3.4 ypc? RB#1 gets paid more.

    Stats matter and players and agents use them as leverage to increase their contracts which is why agents are often considered slimy scumbags.

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    I think he's a Browns fan. Something got jumbled along the way though. It's pretty evident he cares more about the failure of one guy than the success of our team, just for the sake of being right, l guess.

    It's disheartening, really. He's a smart guy, and l'd love to hear his perspective on many other aspects of the game and revel in the successes of the team with him, but his agenda trumps all.

    you are way too nice of a guy.

    i don't know what kind of bullshit deflector you're wearing but mine wore out about 3 days into the first of many stockton rants. the is no conversation there. he doesn't hear you. he's a friggin devil robot placed on earth to make people jump off buildings and throw themselves in front of buses. sorta like the plants and trees in that m. night shylaman bomb of a flick 'the happening'.

    @miktoxic said:

    you are way too nice of a guy.

    i don't know what kind of bullshit deflector you're wearing but mine wore out about 3 days into the first of many stockton rants. the is no conversation there. he doesn't hear you. he's a friggin devil robot placed on earth to make people jump off buildings and throw themselves in front of buses. sorta like the plants and trees in that m. night shylaman bomb of a flick 'the happening'.

    No Mik. Don't you start with me. I like you too damn much. Fuck you.

    We all have our favorite villains on this board we like to spar with. Imagine if Stockton could evolve, and instead of just annoying the shit out of us about Brian Hoyer, he could annoy the shit out of us about Terrance West, or John Greco, or ANYONE besides Brian Hoyer.

    But your analogy was spot on.

  • @upper-lip said:

    I don't know where the browns front office guys' heads are at with the QB situation. I'm telling you what I'd do. And like I've said multiple times, I don't give a rats ass what stats tell you, stats are inconsistent and don't tell you all that much when they're relative to other players. I can give you Matt cassels stats in New England and his stats in minny and ask you which QB you think is better. See how this doesn't work? Stats are for autistics. I see what we have in hoyer with his intangibles and mentality. He played like complete poop today, abd him stepping it up again to clean up his mess and lead another game winning drive gave me even more faith in him. Did you see joe Thomas' and josh Gordon's quotes after the game? His teammates love him and believe in him.

    Stats do MATTER especially when it comes down to $MONEY$, NFL management, agents, and contract negotiations.

    My college roommate is currently a sports agent in Miami and you have no idea how critical it is how much stats matter, maybe not to you but to everyone else involved. A missed TD, int, or fumble here, extra 100 yards rushing, extra sack there can be a million(s) dollar swing.

    Who do you think is getting paid more? The QB with 28 TD's and 4 int's with 3000+ yards and 100+ rating

    or the QB with 14 TD's 9 int's < 3000 yards and lower 90 rating????????

    Stats are a reflection of how you play on the field.

    Would you rather have a RB with 1600 yards and averages 5 yards a carry or the running back who runs with heart and has 770 yards and a 3.4 ypc? RB#1 gets paid more.

    Stats matter and players and agents use them as leverage to increase their contracts which is why agents are often considered slimy scumbags.

    @walterwhite said:

    Stats do MATTER especially when it comes down to $MONEY$, NFL management, agents, and contract negotiations.

    My college roommate is currently a sports agent in Miami and you have no idea how critical it is how much stats matter, maybe not to you but to everyone else involved. A missed TD, int, or fumble here, extra 100 yards rushing, extra sack there can be a million(s) dollar swing.

    Who do you think is getting paid more? The QB with 28 TD's and 4 int's with 3000+ yards and 100+ rating

    or the QB with 14 TD's 9 int's < 3000 yards and lower 90 rating????????

    Stats are a reflection of how you play on the field.

    Would you rather have a RB with 1600 yards and averages 5 yards a carry or the running back who runs with heart and has 770 yards and a 3.4 ypc? RB#1 gets paid more.

    Stats matter and players and agents use them as leverage to increase their contracts which is why agents are often considered slimy scumbags.

    Ok let's compare 2 different stat lines from a season in which the running back played in 16 games

    A: 737 rush yards, 3.5 ypc, 6 rush td's, 46.1ypg, 22 rec, 145 rec yds, 0 rec tds

    B: 1590 rush yards, 5.0 ypc, 11 rush td's, 99.4 ypg, 23 rec, 196 rec yds, 1 rec td's

    Alright so based off that who's the better player, A or B?

    Oh wait, it's the same fucking person. A is marshawn lynch in 2010 age 24 and B him in 2012 age 26

    Idc what you tell me, stats mean absolutely nothing to the ability of a player. Nothing. At all. They are for Retards and autistics

  • @walterwhite said:

    Stats do MATTER especially when it comes down to $MONEY$, NFL management, agents, and contract negotiations.

    My college roommate is currently a sports agent in Miami and you have no idea how critical it is how much stats matter, maybe not to you but to everyone else involved. A missed TD, int, or fumble here, extra 100 yards rushing, extra sack there can be a million(s) dollar swing.

    Who do you think is getting paid more? The QB with 28 TD's and 4 int's with 3000+ yards and 100+ rating

    or the QB with 14 TD's 9 int's < 3000 yards and lower 90 rating????????

    Stats are a reflection of how you play on the field.

    Would you rather have a RB with 1600 yards and averages 5 yards a carry or the running back who runs with heart and has 770 yards and a 3.4 ypc? RB#1 gets paid more.

    Stats matter and players and agents use them as leverage to increase their contracts which is why agents are often considered slimy scumbags.

    Ok let's compare 2 different stat lines from a season in which the running back played in 16 games

    A: 737 rush yards, 3.5 ypc, 6 rush td's, 46.1ypg, 22 rec, 145 rec yds, 0 rec tds

    B: 1590 rush yards, 5.0 ypc, 11 rush td's, 99.4 ypg, 23 rec, 196 rec yds, 1 rec td's

    Alright so based off that who's the better player, A or B?

    Oh wait, it's the same fucking person. A is marshawn lynch in 2010 age 24 and B him in 2012 age 26

    Idc what you tell me, stats mean absolutely nothing to the ability of a player. Nothing. At all. They are for Retards and autistics

    @upper-lip said:

    Stats mean absolutely nothing to the ability of a player. Nothing. At all. They are for Retards and autistics

    You're obviously Retarded if you think stats don't matter.

    They are a reflection of your performance on the field and often dictate how much a player will get paid.