Jonathan Paul Manziel
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There isn't hate for manziel, just repeated frustration of telling manziel fans to stfu after complaining about wins.
No hate for Manziel?
Just look at some avatars around here. LBC Mike at the top of the page, what is his avatar?
I can't tell if you're being stupid or disingenuous when you say there's no Manziel hate around here.
Once again what other fan base would trash their 1st round Rookie QB before he even starts a game? Are most fan bases not excited to see their Rookie QBs?
Are most fan bases not excited to see their Rookie QBs?
sure. when he's named starter by the coaching staff.
so really you need to take your complaints to pettine and farmer. all you're doing here is ramblin and jaw-jackin.
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How about I like both QB's we are aloud to question when either one plays shitty? That work for you?
No problem there, WW... but peddle the Consummate Pro shit somewhere else. A consummate Pro would have put himself in a position to compete for the job instead of competing with the "playbook".
JM may yet turn out to be "the consummate one", but as of now he's the "not-even-close"...
No problem there, WW... but peddle the Consummate Pro shit somewhere else. A consummate Pro would have put himself in a position to compete for the job instead of competing with the "playbook".
JM may yet turn out to be "the consummate one", but as of now he's the "not-even-close"...
Well I'm glad Mike Pettine and Joe Thomas and Joel Bitonio disagree with you. No offense but you don't have a lick of credibility compared to them and what they have to say.
Everyone inside that locker room has praised how well Manziel has handled himself and what a consummate professional is.
You can say what you want about his game and if it will translate, but the dude doesn't have a shitty me first Ben Tate attitude.
I don't care if you're Jimmy Buffett or Warren Buffett, no one has a damn clue what the guy will do on the field
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No problem there, WW... but peddle the Consummate Pro shit somewhere else. A consummate Pro would have put himself in a position to compete for the job instead of competing with the "playbook".
JM may yet turn out to be "the consummate one", but as of now he's the "not-even-close"...
Well I'm glad Mike Pettine and Joe Thomas and Joel Bitonio disagree with you. No offense but you don't have a lick of credibility compared to them and what they have to say.
Everyone inside that locker room has praised how well Manziel has handled himself and what a consummate professional is.
You can say what you want about his game and if it will translate, but the dude doesn't have a shitty me first Ben Tate attitude.
I don't care if you're Jimmy Buffett or Warren Buffett, no one has a damn clue what the guy will do on the field
Well I'm glad Mike Pettine and Joe Thomas and Joel Bitonio disagree with you. No offense but you don't have a lick of credibility compared to them and what they have to say.
Everyone inside that locker room has praised how well Manziel has handled himself and what a consummate professional is.
You can say what you want about his game and if it will translate, but the dude doesn't have a shitty me first Ben Tate attitude.
I don't care if you're Jimmy Buffett or Warren Buffett, no one has a damn clue what the guy will do on the field
I think Hoyer is doing a decent job this year and agree with the coaches' decision to sit Manziel. Let's say they put Manziel out there in week 1 and he performs at the level of the other rookies (Bortles, Bridgewater, Carr ect), the media would have ripped him apart, because hating Manziel sells. Even if he performed at Hoyer's level right now, and especially today, you would never hear the end of it. They want to have him 100% ready to go when they do plan on putting him in.
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No problem there, WW... but peddle the Consummate Pro shit somewhere else. A consummate Pro would have put himself in a position to compete for the job instead of competing with the "playbook".
JM may yet turn out to be "the consummate one", but as of now he's the "not-even-close"...
Well I'm glad Mike Pettine and Joe Thomas and Joel Bitonio disagree with you. No offense but you don't have a lick of credibility compared to them and what they have to say.
Everyone inside that locker room has praised how well Manziel has handled himself and what a consummate professional is.
You can say what you want about his game and if it will translate, but the dude doesn't have a shitty me first Ben Tate attitude.
I don't care if you're Jimmy Buffett or Warren Buffett, no one has a damn clue what the guy will do on the field
Well I'm glad Mike Pettine and Joe Thomas and Joel Bitonio disagree with you. No offense but you don't have a lick of credibility compared to them and what they have to say.
Everyone inside that locker room has praised how well Manziel has handled himself and what a consummate professional is.
Show me one quote... just one...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Well I'm glad Mike Pettine and Joe Thomas and Joel Bitonio disagree with you. No offense but you don't have a lick of credibility compared to them and what they have to say.
Everyone inside that locker room has praised how well Manziel has handled himself and what a consummate professional is.
Show me one quote... just one...
Show me one quote... just one...
"That said, Johnny has never stopped working hard in the weight room and at practice and he seems to be learning the playbook well. He’s here trying to work hard and make a name for himself. For the most part he’s a quiet guy. He keeps to himself in the locker room, and then he goes back to the hotel and wants to relax, watch TV, and talk to his friends—just like the rest of us. In my opinion, he doesn’t want all the extra attention. But he doesn’t have much of a choice." - Joel Bitonio
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/10/29/joel-bitonio-cleveland-browns-rookie-what-ive-learned/
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And the words "consummate professional" are where???
Or does a "Consummate Professional" simply "try to work hard"?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Well I'm glad Mike Pettine and Joe Thomas and Joel Bitonio disagree with you. No offense but you don't have a lick of credibility compared to them and what they have to say.
Everyone inside that locker room has praised how well Manziel has handled himself and what a consummate professional is.
Show me one quote... just one...
Show me one quote... just one...
"Johnny Manziel the football player has been great for us," Pettine said. "He comes in the building, he prepares, he helps Brian (Hoyer) out as far as his preparation as the starter, he works hard in practice, he works hard in the weight room, he works hard in the meeting room.
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And the words "consummate professional" are where???
Or does a "Consummate Professional" simply "try to work hard"?
And the words "consummate professional" are where???
Or does a "Consummate Professional" simply "try to work hard"?
Jesus Christ, you really are coming across douchey with this one. Sorry but good god we all know what he's implying.
You sound like a girl playing semantics games.
Everyone has been very high on him and I'll take our coach, Bitionio, and Thomas credibility over yours.
He's busting his ass off or do you need someone to shove the article in your face.
You're being unbelievably twatty on this one.
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Ok, this is going to piss a lot of people off but I really don't give a damn. I stated in one of my very first posts on this forum and I will reiterate once again. "Johnny Sideshow" as I have dubbed him was nothing more than a marketing ploy to elevate the discussion around the Browns and to sell tickets and memorabilia. Guess what, it's working. He's too small, and in my opinion not very bright. He will NEVER be an elite QB for this team nor any other. I said it.... I'll own it.
GO BROWNS !
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The Browns did not draft Manziel as a "marketing ploy" otherwise Jacksonville would have snatched him up. The Browns don't have problems selling tickets.
He was their #1 ranked QB. End of story.
Nobody knows what he will do on the field and that can be debated all day.
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The Browns did not draft Manziel as a "marketing ploy" otherwise Jacksonville would have snatched him up. The Browns don't have problems selling tickets.
He was their #1 ranked QB. End of story.
Nobody knows what he will do on the field and that can be debated all day.
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Ok, this is going to piss a lot of people off but I really don't give a damn. I stated in one of my very first posts on this forum and I will reiterate once again. "Johnny Sideshow" as I have dubbed him was nothing more than a marketing ploy to elevate the discussion around the Browns and to sell tickets and memorabilia. Guess what, it's working. He's too small, and in my opinion not very bright. He will NEVER be an elite QB for this team nor any other. I said it.... I'll own it.
GO BROWNS !
Ok, this is going to piss a lot of people off but I really don't give a damn. I stated in one of my very first posts on this forum and I will reiterate once again. "Johnny Sideshow" as I have dubbed him was nothing more than a marketing ploy to elevate the discussion around the Browns and to sell tickets and memorabilia. Guess what, it's working. He's too small, and in my opinion not very bright. He will NEVER be an elite QB for this team nor any other. I said it.... I'll own it.
GO BROWNS !
Nothing wrong with having that opinion, and only time will tell if you're right or wrong....... What is wrong is constantly saying the same thing over and over again for months, in every post like our boy Stockton did.
I too have an opinion on Johnny, and I have the same concerns as you. I don't know enough about the kid as I only saw 1 college game that he played, and then of course the pre-season this year. I'm not as confident as you to declare he's a bust, but I have my fears.
I've been wrong before, and hopefully I'll be wrong again regarding Johnny. I won't root against him (until he does the Weeden Back Flip) and will root like hell for him when and if he is under center for my Browns.
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I love all the opinions and insults on this board. But let me ask 1 simple question. "How can anyone have a informed opinion of what type of QB, JFF will be in the NFL, since we haven't seen him actually play in the NFL yet." Not trying to be a smart ass, but people for or against how good he will be, have no idea, till we see a body of work, like we have with Hoyer. The passion with our team runs deep, we all want a winner, who the QB is shouldn't matter IMO. We are 7-4, can we just enjoy it.
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And the words "consummate professional" are where???
Or does a "Consummate Professional" simply "try to work hard"?
Jesus Christ, you really are coming across douchey with this one. Sorry but good god we all know what he's implying.
You sound like a girl playing semantics games.
Everyone has been very high on him and I'll take our coach, Bitionio, and Thomas credibility over yours.
He's busting his ass off or do you need someone to shove the article in your face.
You're being unbelievably twatty on this one.
Jesus Christ, you really are coming across douchey with this one. Sorry but good god we all know what he's implying.
You sound like a girl playing semantics games.
Everyone has been very high on him and I'll take our coach, Bitionio, and Thomas credibility over yours.
He's busting his ass off or do you need someone to shove the article in your face.
You're being unbelievably twatty on this one.
Words have meaning...
That you do not understand the meaning of a word when you use it is not my problem, Bud...
Still awaiting my one quote...
Try googling "manziel consummate professional"... I already have.
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I love all the opinions and insults on this board. But let me ask 1 simple question. "How can anyone have a informed opinion of what type of QB, JFF will be in the NFL, since we haven't seen him actually play in the NFL yet." Not trying to be a smart ass, but people for or against how good he will be, have no idea, till we see a body of work, like we have with Hoyer. The passion with our team runs deep, we all want a winner, who the QB is shouldn't matter IMO. We are 7-4, can we just enjoy it.
I love all the opinions and insults on this board. But let me ask 1 simple question. "How can anyone have a informed opinion of what type of QB, JFF will be in the NFL, since we haven't seen him actually play in the NFL yet." Not trying to be a smart ass, but people for or against how good he will be, have no idea, till we see a body of work, like we have with Hoyer. The passion with our team runs deep, we all want a winner, who the QB is shouldn't matter IMO. We are 7-4, can we just enjoy it.
very true. i guess until they release practice footage we'll never know, until they put him in.
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all people who do not want to support the browns at a 7~seaand not Bitch about thier fan love gay love fantasy should just go to the manziel website. we are happy as browns fans winning. go away.
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all people who do not want to support the browns at a 7~seaand not Bitch about thier fan love gay love fantasy should just go to the manziel website. we are happy as browns fans winning. go away.
all people who do not want to support the browns at a 7~seaand not Bitch about thier fan love gay love fantasy should just go to the manziel website.
Your as bad as Stockton just come from the totally opposite direction.
So because Hoyer had a bad game and 90% of us have taken notice to it were gay love fantasy for Manziel?
Being critical of Hoyer doesn't mean Manziel is the answer, it simply being critical of Hoyer.
Hoyer himself said he was "pissed off" with his own performance and how it nearly cost them, listen to his press conference.
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I love all the opinions and insults on this board. But let me ask 1 simple question. "How can anyone have a informed opinion of what type of QB, JFF will be in the NFL, since we haven't seen him actually play in the NFL yet." Not trying to be a smart ass, but people for or against how good he will be, have no idea, till we see a body of work, like we have with Hoyer. The passion with our team runs deep, we all want a winner, who the QB is shouldn't matter IMO. We are 7-4, can we just enjoy it.
I love all the opinions and insults on this board. But let me ask 1 simple question. "How can anyone have a informed opinion of what type of QB, JFF will be in the NFL, since we haven't seen him actually play in the NFL yet." Not trying to be a smart ass, but people for or against how good he will be, have no idea, till we see a body of work, like we have with Hoyer. The passion with our team runs deep, we all want a winner, who the QB is shouldn't matter IMO. We are 7-4, can we just enjoy it.
I saw him in the NFL. I saw an immature kid who couldn't handle a preseason game. Remember the finger?
Thats not the type of qb I want leading my team.
Maybe he'll mature and become a leader. I have my reservations about him from seeing his college games.
But in the end, I do hope the best because he is a brown. I just don't think he's ready to take the starting role yet.
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According to a lot of you if I say Manziel should start I am in a cult, I don't care about the team, and I root for Hoyer to play bad. But anybody who says Hoyer should start is a long time, real Browns fan who wants what is best for the team. It is my opinion that Johnny should be starting just as it is yours that Hoyer should start. I trash Hoyer when he plays bad but you all trash Johnny because of speculation and/or things that you or I really don't know about yet. All I know is the quarterback play on this team this year hasn't been very good and I believe it can be better if we make a change.
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Really things like "We should all pitch him and get him a new clipboard" is not disrespect? Thats a normal comment to make about your 1st round QB?
US real fans sayshit like that just to get a rise outta pathetic piece of shit fans. Seems to be working
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