Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Upper lip, your ass is showing.
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It's mind boggling that some people have nothing better to do than trash talk a back up quarterback. Instead of wishing him success in the hopefully unlikely event Hoyer gets injured, you spew out the vulgarities and expect everyone to hop on board. Let me remind you:
Aaron Rodgers was a back up as was Philip Rivers, Drew Brees Terry Bradshaw, Kurt Warner, Brian Hoyer, Tom Brady, Jim McMahon, Steve Young, Eli Manning etc.
We saw Sam Bradford, Carson Palmer, Nick Foles, Ryan Mallet all go down for the year. I'll bet their fans weren't ripping the backup to the point of exhaustion.
I believe he gets a pass until he has the chance to prove otherwise.
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Johnny's mom Is probably a balla just like him. No doubt she parties till 2am. This guy is lucky he got off how he did, cause we all know JF could have thrown him through walls with his brute strength. Although on the other hand he also could have just gazed into the mans eyes putting a hypnosis on him. Johnny does what johnny wants though.
Johnny's mom Is probably a balla just like him. No doubt she parties till 2am. This guy is lucky he got off how he did, cause we all know JF could have thrown him through walls with his brute strength. Although on the other hand he also could have just gazed into the mans eyes putting a hypnosis on him. Johnny does what johnny wants though.
That's all? Johnny has so much power- he stares at the guy and his head blows up like in Scanners.
It's mind boggling that some people have nothing better to do than trash talk a back up quarterback. Instead of wishing him success in the hopefully unlikely event Hoyer gets injured, you spew out the vulgarities and expect everyone to hop on board. Let me remind you:
Aaron Rodgers was a back up as was Philip Rivers, Drew Brees Terry Bradshaw, Kurt Warner, Brian Hoyer, Tom Brady, Jim McMahon, Steve Young, Eli Manning etc.
We saw Sam Bradford, Carson Palmer, Nick Foles, Ryan Mallet all go down for the year. I'll bet their fans weren't ripping the backup to the point of exhaustion.
I believe he gets a pass until he has the chance to prove otherwise.
Not ripping on JFF at all- just having a little fun. I think Furnier has it right- this dickhead wanted to cause a scene so he could sue Manziel LOL, he could have been like Sir Charles Barkley when that fan heckled him in the Flats way back- just picked him up- and thrown his ass through a window.
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I don't think the Browns FO is going to be pleased with Johnny Sideshow. His days could be numbered.
Conner Shaw may be moving up on the depth chart. LOL
GO BROWNS !
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I don't think the Browns FO is going to be pleased with Johnny Sideshow. His days could be numbered.
Conner Shaw may be moving up on the depth chart. LOL
GO BROWNS !
I don't think the Browns FO is going to be pleased with Johnny Sideshow. His days could be numbered.
Conner Shaw may be moving up on the depth chart. LOL
GO BROWNS !
The Cleveland fan rep for chasing off QB's way before they have a chance to do anything seems well earned. This QB hasn't even played more than a few downs and you are ready to can him? Really? Good thing Pettine has more sense than many "fans".
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Ok, someone said something, someone punched someone, was it a punch, a fight, a riot, Ms. JFF, an entourage, the other drunk asshole's fault, whatever, I'm not trying to figure that BS out.
So, what I know is a few hours after practice, meetings, etc. Friday and a few hours before getting on the plane to Atlanta, the 1st round QB (de facto future leader of the franchise) who hasn't proven jack-squat so far is testing the theory of - nothing good happens at 3 a.m.
I don't need to speculate or exaggerate anything to ask, do you think Johnny was giving himself a 100% chance of being 100% prepared to play Sunday had his number been called?
If you're a pro - in any field - who's been around long enough and proven himself, then you rightly get more benefit of the doubt. No matter what you believe about Johnny and what's true or what's a problem, is he at the point where an employer (coach, GM, owner) or co-worker (teammate) says, even just within their heads, "That deal last night was dumb/bad luck/inconsequential/who knows, but we know Johnny. It doesn't have anything to do with Johnny getting the job done."?
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2AM drug deal.
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I don't think the Browns FO is going to be pleased with Johnny Sideshow. His days could be numbered.
Conner Shaw may be moving up on the depth chart. LOL
GO BROWNS !
The Cleveland fan rep for chasing off QB's way before they have a chance to do anything seems well earned. This QB hasn't even played more than a few downs and you are ready to can him? Really? Good thing Pettine has more sense than many "fans".
The Cleveland fan rep for chasing off QB's way before they have a chance to do anything seems well earned.
Because they all went on to greatness?
How do you think we should have kept around ... Frye? Quinn? McCoy? Weeden?
Zombo
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Ok, someone said something, someone punched someone, was it a punch, a fight, a riot, Ms. JFF, an entourage, the other drunk asshole's fault, whatever, I'm not trying to figure that BS out.
So, what I know is a few hours after practice, meetings, etc. Friday and a few hours before getting on the plane to Atlanta, the 1st round QB (de facto future leader of the franchise) who hasn't proven jack-squat so far is testing the theory of - nothing good happens at 3 a.m.
I don't need to speculate or exaggerate anything to ask, do you think Johnny was giving himself a 100% chance of being 100% prepared to play Sunday had his number been called?
If you're a pro - in any field - who's been around long enough and proven himself, then you rightly get more benefit of the doubt. No matter what you believe about Johnny and what's true or what's a problem, is he at the point where an employer (coach, GM, owner) or co-worker (teammate) says, even just within their heads, "That deal last night was dumb/bad luck/inconsequential/who knows, but we know Johnny. It doesn't have anything to do with Johnny getting the job done."?
Ok, someone said something, someone punched someone, was it a punch, a fight, a riot, Ms. JFF, an entourage, the other drunk asshole's fault, whatever, I'm not trying to figure that BS out.
So, what I know is a few hours after practice, meetings, etc. Friday and a few hours before getting on the plane to Atlanta, the 1st round QB (de facto future leader of the franchise) who hasn't proven jack-squat so far is testing the theory of - nothing good happens at 3 a.m.
I don't need to speculate or exaggerate anything to ask, do you think Johnny was giving himself a 100% chance of being 100% prepared to play Sunday had his number been called?
If you're a pro - in any field - who's been around long enough and proven himself, then you rightly get more benefit of the doubt. No matter what you believe about Johnny and what's true or what's a problem, is he at the point where an employer (coach, GM, owner) or co-worker (teammate) says, even just within their heads, "That deal last night was dumb/bad luck/inconsequential/who knows, but we know Johnny. It doesn't have anything to do with Johnny getting the job done."?
At a minimum the time of the "incident" is a concern... even if JM had a note from Mom...
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I hear they are casting matthew mcconaughey to play JF in the movie. He will be driving a maserati though. JF don't play that pussy Lincoln shit.
What do gay horses eat?
HAAAYY!
That's a lot funnier in person.
McConaughey is way to tall though. More like Tom Cruise. With a lotta botox.
What do gay horses eat?
HAAAYY!
That's a lot funnier in person.
McConaughey is way to tall though. More like Tom Cruise. With a lotta botox.
Both McConaughey and Cruise are old enough to be JFFs daddy.
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I don't think the Browns FO is going to be pleased with Johnny Sideshow. His days could be numbered.
Conner Shaw may be moving up on the depth chart. LOL
GO BROWNS !
The Cleveland fan rep for chasing off QB's way before they have a chance to do anything seems well earned. This QB hasn't even played more than a few downs and you are ready to can him? Really? Good thing Pettine has more sense than many "fans".
The Cleveland fan rep for chasing off QB's way before they have a chance to do anything seems well earned. This QB hasn't even played more than a few downs and you are ready to can him? Really? Good thing Pettine has more sense than many "fans".
Really? Name a single QB that the Browns have "chased off" that has gone on to do "anything". Anything other than being a pine rider.
By the way, I will give you the answer: it is: No one, nobody......at least not since they ran off Len Dawson in the late 50s.
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2:30am on Monday morning. Shouldn't he be in bed and preparing for this week's game?
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I don't think the Browns FO is going to be pleased with Johnny Sideshow. His days could be numbered.
Conner Shaw may be moving up on the depth chart. LOL
GO BROWNS !
The Cleveland fan rep for chasing off QB's way before they have a chance to do anything seems well earned. This QB hasn't even played more than a few downs and you are ready to can him? Really? Good thing Pettine has more sense than many "fans".
The Cleveland fan rep for chasing off QB's way before they have a chance to do anything seems well earned. This QB hasn't even played more than a few downs and you are ready to can him? Really? Good thing Pettine has more sense than many "fans".
I think Pettine has "sense" enough to know that the QB that hasn't even played more than a few downs is more of a distraction than he's worth. Just so we understand each other I am a "fan" of the Cleveland Browns and have been for 50 years . I didn't follow some "Johnny" come lately, over hyped, juvenile delinquent half way across the country and miraculously call myself a Browns fan. I've lived through the losing, season after season, and watched us piss away one draft pick after another. Is it too much to ask of some kid you're giving millions of dollars to, to carry the clipboard with a little respect and professionalism? If you think Pettines and Farmers patience isn't wearing very thin with this guy, you need to take off your Aggie colored glasses.
GO BROWNS
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I don't think the Browns FO is going to be pleased with Johnny Sideshow. His days could be numbered.
Conner Shaw may be moving up on the depth chart. LOL
GO BROWNS !
The Cleveland fan rep for chasing off QB's way before they have a chance to do anything seems well earned. This QB hasn't even played more than a few downs and you are ready to can him? Really? Good thing Pettine has more sense than many "fans".
The Cleveland fan rep for chasing off QB's way before they have a chance to do anything seems well earned.
I gotta agree with Gip on this one. We haven't "run off" ANY quarterbacks. We did cut a bunch. But they all pretty much earned it. The fact that none of them ended up as a starter pretty much backs that up.
The truth is we're accused, more often, of rushing them in and getting them hurt or broken. The complaint was they weren't ready or the team just wasn't good enough for them yet. So, presumably, we ruin QB's by rushing them.
But, THIS TIME, we decide to hold him back and NOT rush him in. And now we hear that thats the wrong way too.
The Cleveland fans dont want to run JFF off. They just want him to start acting and playing like a top flight PROFESSIONAL, instead of acting like a college kid without a job.
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The Cleveland fan rep for chasing off QB's way before they have a chance to do anything seems well earned.
I gotta agree with Gip on this one. We haven't "run off" ANY quarterbacks. We did cut a bunch. But they all pretty much earned it. The fact that none of them ended up as a starter pretty much backs that up.
The truth is we're accused, more often, of rushing them in and getting them hurt or broken. The complaint was they weren't ready or the team just wasn't good enough for them yet. So, presumably, we ruin QB's by rushing them.
But, THIS TIME, we decide to hold him back and NOT rush him in. And now we hear that thats the wrong way too.
The Cleveland fans dont want to run JFF off. They just want him to start acting and playing like a top flight PROFESSIONAL, instead of acting like a college kid without a job.
But, THIS TIME, we decide to hold him back and NOT rush him in. And now we hear that thats the wrong way too.
Actually this is exactly the right way. But many here want to rush him in or send him packing. Either way that is way too premature a judgement to make. You all have to admit the Browns have a very negative history where QB's go to die. Oakland has the same history. Pettine for once is doing it right.
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But, THIS TIME, we decide to hold him back and NOT rush him in. And now we hear that thats the wrong way too.
Actually this is exactly the right way. But many here want to rush him in or send him packing. Either way that is way too premature a judgement to make. You all have to admit the Browns have a very negative history where QB's go to die. Oakland has the same history. Pettine for once is doing it right.
Actually this is exactly the right way.
I agree 100%
But many here want to rush him in or send him packing.
I agree again., But, there are ALWAYS gonna be 10% one way and 10% the other way and 80% in the middle
Either way that is way too premature a judgement to make.
And I agree again(thats 3)....but, I think the agrument is that, as YOU have said, we have a history of bad QB picks. They have failed, one by one and broken our spirits many many times. We have now invested ANOTHER first pick in a guy and ...#1) he didn't give a great effort in camp....#2) he didn't beat out a fairly average QB.....#3) he KEEPS getting in the news for negative reasons. .....#4)he hasn't flashed anything good, but has flashed numerous hints of trouble......so, knowing our history of flops, isn't it reasonable for "us"(not you) to feel like "HERE WE GO AGAIN"....?
Can you get that we are tired of QB's busting? That we'd like ONE to JUST show up, own it, play great and be the face of our franchise? Do you see how we are very leery of this guy and his act, since he HASN'T shown us anything else????
You all have to admit the Browns have a very negative history where QB's go to die.
Yes we do. So, like I said above, wish he would show us SOMETHING to prove he is the one. Right now, we've only gotten a clipboard holder, negative press and a bunch of commercials
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But, THIS TIME, we decide to hold him back and NOT rush him in. And now we hear that thats the wrong way too.
Actually this is exactly the right way. But many here want to rush him in or send him packing. Either way that is way too premature a judgement to make. You all have to admit the Browns have a very negative history where QB's go to die. Oakland has the same history. Pettine for once is doing it right.
Actually this is exactly the right way. But many here want to rush him in or send him packing. Either way that is way too premature a judgement to make. You all have to admit the Browns have a very negative history where QB's go to die. Oakland has the same history. Pettine for once is doing it right.
Those QBs don't come here to die. They weren't very good and they came here and proved it. The only guy that kinda came here then went elsewhere and did OK was the veteran Jeff Garcia. Here they did try to put a round peg into a square hole. Garcia was a WCO system QB who could not run anything else, and when they tried a different offense here with him it didn't work. He went to a couple of other spots and did OK (Eagles, Bucs).
EVERYONE else that was brought here lacked the talent...intangibles...whatever to be a quality NFL QB.
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The Cleveland fan rep for chasing off QB's way before they have a chance to do anything seems well earned.
Because they all went on to greatness?
How do you think we should have kept around ... Frye? Quinn? McCoy? Weeden?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Because they all went on to greatness?
How do you think we should have kept around ... Frye? Quinn? McCoy? Weeden?
Zombo
Probably everyone would have some amount of improvement given more continuity. The system the coaching staff the ownership everything being fluid gives no one a chance to be all that they can be.
Build a good team and a mediocre quarterback can be successful as I always say. Look at the Browns.
Bernie was never successful after leaving the Browns. Is he a turd?
WSS
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Zombo said:
Because they all went on to greatness?
How do you think we should have kept around ... Frye? Quinn? McCoy? Weeden?
Zombo
Probably everyone would have some amount of improvement given more continuity. The system the coaching staff the ownership everything being fluid gives no one a chance to be all that they can be.
Build a good team and a mediocre quarterback can be successful as I always say. Look at the Browns.
Bernie was never successful after leaving the Browns. Is he a turd?
WSS
Probably everyone would have some amount of improvement given more continuity. The system the coaching staff the ownership everything being fluid gives no one a chance to be all that they can be.
Build a good team and a mediocre quarterback can be successful as I always say. Look at the Browns.
Bernie was never successful after leaving the Browns. Is he a turd?
WSS
He was shot before he left.
Zombo
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