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  • i think when michael vick finally puts his cleats up the days of the running QB will be retired as well.

    after watching and listening to the talking heads over a decade now saying that the nfl will one day turn into a new era where the qbs will have to be more than just a little mobile, can we put that to rest now? anyone see rg3 lately? how about colin kaepernik? people might mention russell wilson but i'll say to them he's not a running qb. what he is IMO is a very smart qb. ingenious how carroll uses him. but one qb in a league of at least 64?

    i'm sorry but i see these guys getting hurt. that's pretty much what i see when wilson takes off. he missed getting clobbered a couple of times yesterday by seconds. one of these days it'll catch up to him.

    the game is still won in the trenches (ask dallas). and is still won by guys that can stand up in the pocket and deliver the ball.

    put that experiment to rest.

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    i think when michael vick finally puts his cleats up the days of the running QB will be retired as well.

    after watching and listening to the talking heads over a decade now saying that the nfl will one day turn into a new era where the qbs will have to be more than just a little mobile, can we put that to rest now? anyone see rg3 lately? how about colin kaepernik? people might mention russell wilson but i'll say to them he's not a running qb. what he is IMO is a very smart qb. ingenious how carroll uses him. but one qb in a league of at least 64?

    i'm sorry but i see these guys getting hurt. that's pretty much what i see when wilson takes off. he missed getting clobbered a couple of times yesterday by seconds. one of these days it'll catch up to him.

    the game is still won in the trenches (ask dallas). and is still won by guys that can stand up in the pocket and deliver the ball.

    put that experiment to rest.

    @miktoxic said:

    i think when michael vick finally puts his cleats up the days of the running QB will be retired as well.

    after watching and listening to the talking heads over a decade now saying that the nfl will one day turn into a new era where the qbs will have to be more than just a little mobile, can we put that to rest now? anyone see rg3 lately? how about colin kaepernik? people might mention russell wilson but i'll say to them he's not a running qb. what he is IMO is a very smart qb. ingenious how carroll uses him. but one qb in a league of at least 64?

    i'm sorry but i see these guys getting hurt. that's pretty much what i see when wilson takes off. he missed getting clobbered a couple of times yesterday by seconds. one of these days it'll catch up to him.

    the game is still won in the trenches (ask dallas). and is still won by guys that can stand up in the pocket and deliver the ball.

    put that experiment to rest.

    Yup... Fads come and go...

    I do think Wilson is the exception to the rule, however. I do not see his injury odds from running as any higher than a typical QB's are in the pocket. Russell is just that savvy...

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  • We'll have to see the final test subject, prototype "Johnny #2" before we can close the case on running QBs Mik.

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  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    We'll have to see the final test subject, prototype "Johnny #2" before we can close the case on running QBs Mik.

    @poeticg said:

    We'll have to see the final test subject, prototype "Johnny #2" before we can close the case on running QBs Mik.

    But does he see the field while he is still a "running QB"? I think/ hope we are trying to transform him into Wilson, Jr.

    As mik said, I think Wilson is not so much a "running QB", but a QB with the ability to run. Carroll pops designed runs (read options) often enough to maintain the illusion.

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  • yep on both counts.

    i'm kinda eager to see what kind of qbs are going to go where in next spring's draft. i know mariota is a guy that can run but i haven't seen enough of oregon to know whether or not he's a 'runner'. hell, he might not even declare. just trying to think of a qb on the national stage that uses his feet more than his arm.....

  • difference between elusive and running. Wilson is more elusive than he is running. Take the running away from Kaepernick and he's a completely avg QB at best. I hate the way he throws the ball too. He drops underneath it and throws a rising fastball every damn time I'm sick of watching it. Every time his receivers start their hands low cause that's where it looks like it's coming but then have to raise up real quick. Go fucking play baseball with that shit, I'd be furious if he was a Brown. He's gonna get one of his guys killed. Got away with that shit when people were worried about him scampering off for 20 yds a pop. Ain't happenin anymore.

    Wilson is shifty, like Rothlisberger....that's what the new era QB has to be. Extend a play for 7-8 seconds and u will be a god.

  • C Clevfan4life

    difference between elusive and running. Wilson is more elusive than he is running. Take the running away from Kaepernick and he's a completely avg QB at best. I hate the way he throws the ball too. He drops underneath it and throws a rising fastball every damn time I'm sick of watching it. Every time his receivers start their hands low cause that's where it looks like it's coming but then have to raise up real quick. Go fucking play baseball with that shit, I'd be furious if he was a Brown. He's gonna get one of his guys killed. Got away with that shit when people were worried about him scampering off for 20 yds a pop. Ain't happenin anymore.

    Wilson is shifty, like Rothlisberger....that's what the new era QB has to be. Extend a play for 7-8 seconds and u will be a god.

    @clevfan4life said:

    Wilson is shifty, like Rothlisberger....that's what the new era QB has to be. Extend a play for 7-8 seconds and u will be a god.

    Roethlisberger is "shifty"?

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    i think when michael vick finally puts his cleats up the days of the running QB will be retired as well.

    after watching and listening to the talking heads over a decade now saying that the nfl will one day turn into a new era where the qbs will have to be more than just a little mobile, can we put that to rest now? anyone see rg3 lately? how about colin kaepernik? people might mention russell wilson but i'll say to them he's not a running qb. what he is IMO is a very smart qb. ingenious how carroll uses him. but one qb in a league of at least 64?

    i'm sorry but i see these guys getting hurt. that's pretty much what i see when wilson takes off. he missed getting clobbered a couple of times yesterday by seconds. one of these days it'll catch up to him.

    the game is still won in the trenches (ask dallas). and is still won by guys that can stand up in the pocket and deliver the ball.

    put that experiment to rest.

    @miktoxic said:

    i think when michael vick finally puts his cleats up the days of the running QB will be retired as well.

    after watching and listening to the talking heads over a decade now saying that the nfl will one day turn into a new era where the qbs will have to be more than just a little mobile, can we put that to rest now? anyone see rg3 lately? how about colin kaepernik? people might mention russell wilson but i'll say to them he's not a running qb. what he is IMO is a very smart qb. ingenious how carroll uses him. but one qb in a league of at least 64?

    i'm sorry but i see these guys getting hurt. that's pretty much what i see when wilson takes off. he missed getting clobbered a couple of times yesterday by seconds. one of these days it'll catch up to him.

    the game is still won in the trenches (ask dallas). and is still won by guys that can stand up in the pocket and deliver the ball.

    put that experiment to rest.

    If JFF were to follow a model, he would do well to follow the example of Wilson. Run when necessary, but run smart, and run to pass, not to run.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @miktoxic said:

    i think when michael vick finally puts his cleats up the days of the running QB will be retired as well.

    after watching and listening to the talking heads over a decade now saying that the nfl will one day turn into a new era where the qbs will have to be more than just a little mobile, can we put that to rest now? anyone see rg3 lately? how about colin kaepernik? people might mention russell wilson but i'll say to them he's not a running qb. what he is IMO is a very smart qb. ingenious how carroll uses him. but one qb in a league of at least 64?

    i'm sorry but i see these guys getting hurt. that's pretty much what i see when wilson takes off. he missed getting clobbered a couple of times yesterday by seconds. one of these days it'll catch up to him.

    the game is still won in the trenches (ask dallas). and is still won by guys that can stand up in the pocket and deliver the ball.

    put that experiment to rest.

    Yup... Fads come and go...

    I do think Wilson is the exception to the rule, however. I do not see his injury odds from running as any higher than a typical QB's are in the pocket. Russell is just that savvy...

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... Fads come and go...

    I do think Wilson is the exception to the rule, however. I do not see his injury odds from running as any higher than a typical QB's are in the pocket. Russell is just that savvy...

    I put Wilson in the "mobile QB" role, not the "running QB" role. I think that there is a difference.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @clevfan4life said:

    Wilson is shifty, like Rothlisberger....that's what the new era QB has to be. Extend a play for 7-8 seconds and u will be a god.

    Roethlisberger is "shifty"?

    @tour2ma said:

    Roethlisberger is "shifty"?

    or whatever you wanna call it when defensive players can't seem to get their fucking hands on the slimy raping little cocksucking fgt.

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  • it will by heightened to a new level that no one can match but many will try to immolate for decades to come once Johnny shows an ounce of the damage he can do. reck the fucking league one play at a time.

  • C Clevfan4life

    @tour2ma said:

    Roethlisberger is "shifty"?

    or whatever you wanna call it when defensive players can't seem to get their fucking hands on the slimy raping little cocksucking fgt.

    @clevfan4life said:

    or whatever you wanna call it when defensive players can't seem to get their fucking hands on the slimy raping little cocksucking fgt.

    roethlisberger is just big and people don't know how to wrap him up. you have to either knock his ass down physically or grab him by his legs and wrestle him down. he shrugs guys off like bugs.

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  • C Clevfan4life

    @tour2ma said:

    Roethlisberger is "shifty"?

    or whatever you wanna call it when defensive players can't seem to get their fucking hands on the slimy raping little cocksucking fgt.

    @clevfan4life said:

    or whatever you wanna call it when defensive players can't seem to get their fucking hands on the slimy raping little cocksucking fgt.

    Big?

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  • With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @clevfan4life said:

    or whatever you wanna call it when defensive players can't seem to get their fucking hands on the slimy raping little cocksucking fgt.

    Big?

    @tour2ma said:

    Big?

    Well yeah that's part of it, but he's slimy somehow. What you don't feel me?

  • It is all the lube Ben secretes.

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

    @mudfly said:

    With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

    For some reason, I thought of Robert Newhouse when I read this.

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    It is all the lube Ben secretes.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    It is all the lube Ben secretes.

    HA! funny but sick and creepy at the same time.

  • You gotta figure if you're a QB that's a tough thing to do, to keep your eyes on blips on a radar while trying to avoid the bombs going off around you.

    Anyone know anything about speed reading? Isn't the concept about widening your vision while still being able to focus your attention to the wider content, and recognizing word patterns and stuff?

    Seems like that would be good training for a QB. Whenever he's eating, or brushing his teeth, or taking a shit, guys should fly in from nowhere and try to level him. Keep him on his toes, really develop that fight or flight instinct.

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

    @mudfly said:

    With the way the NFL seems so enamored by these running QB's, you'd think SOMEONE somewhere woulda come up with a throwing running back by now....

    Tim Tebow tried that route, it didn't work out so well.

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