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  • So the same guy involved in the fight has now been caught with a DUI exactly one week right down to the time of morning it happened later. At least it lends itself to the idea the BOTH the guys fighting were drunk. I don't know if that says anything about Johnny, but it at least pokes some holes in the idea that only the "fan" was making drunken decisions.

    MudflyM 1 Reply

  • i know manziel wasn't involved with this DUI situation but what i don't understand is why these guys (any football player/celebs etc.) don't get everything they need to party with i.e. women, drugs, guns whatever and go to their mansion and lock the fucking door. the need to show your face and be TMZed at 2:30 in the fucking morning is beyond all comprehension. especially when you know your employer frowns on such behavior.

    needs to cut ties with that bodyguard.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • hoortaH hoorta

    @bacon said:

    Hoorta is a gordon cheerleader so apparently breaking actual rules that require mandatory league suspensions and driving drunk is ok, but having a fake id in college, omg.

    and before he does the, johnny is a a qb thing. if your morals and values waiver that easily, you don't have any. You don't work for the Browns; even if you did holding manziel to a different standard than you hold gordon to is ridiculous.

    the fact is youre just hoping to be proven right about some pre-draft prediction you made based on not liking johnny for some weird personal reason.

    you're a cliche.

    I could give a rat if I'm proven right or wrong. My track record is pretty far on the proven right though. And when I'm wrong, I'm the first to admit it.

    Har har regarding Gordon. Get back to me when Manziel leads the league in passing yards, and makes the Pro Bowl. As of right now, he hasn't done jack shit in the NFL.I'll cut him as much slack as Gordon when he does.

    True- I didn't want Manziel- because he'd be a distraction, among other things. Guess what? He's a distraction. FYI- there's a shit ton of people that don't like Manziel for the same reason I don't particularly care for him- as a person. Not the kind of guy I'd want to hang out with. There's a difference between liking a football player, and liking the person. Isn't about my personal opinion anymore- I can't kick Manziel off the team- and I have to hope he does well.

    This had zero, zilch, nada to do with the fake JFF ID. I could care less about it. I do care about his conduct after he got drafted by the Browns however. F**cking liar. I'm all into football. sure. However, I (and some others) still think he's still got some growing up to do. Maybe he'd actually be starting if he had been in Berea working out instead of hanging out with Bieb-er.

    @hoorta said:

    I could give a rat if I'm proven right or wrong. My track record is pretty far on the proven right though. And when I'm wrong, I'm the first to admit it.

    Har har regarding Gordon. Get back to me when Manziel leads the league in passing yards, and makes the Pro Bowl. As of right now, he hasn't done jack shit in the NFL.I'll cut him as much slack as Gordon when he does.

    True- I didn't want Manziel- because he'd be a distraction, among other things. Guess what? He's a distraction. FYI- there's a shit ton of people that don't like Manziel for the same reason I don't particularly care for him- as a person. Not the kind of guy I'd want to hang out with. There's a difference between liking a football player, and liking the person. Isn't about my personal opinion anymore- I can't kick Manziel off the team- and I have to hope he does well.

    This had zero, zilch, nada to do with the fake JFF ID. I could care less about it. I do care about his conduct after he got drafted by the Browns however. F**cking liar. I'm all into football. sure. However, I (and some others) still think he's still got some growing up to do. Maybe he'd actually be starting if he had been in Berea working out instead of hanging out with Bieb-er.

    Everyone, hoorta doesn't care if he's proven right but he wants you to know about his track record. He's apathetic, but.

    Your entire post proved my points for me. Thanks.

    It's flat out weird you want your qb to be someone you want to hang out with. Why would you even say that? Like you think about hanging out with the players? Or you just like things that are like you?

    Good luck with that.

  • The irony of hoorta suggesting manziel needs to grow up is amazing.

    Hopefully he does one day so you take down your brian Hoyer poster. Please, post more post on the Internet about how another man needs to grow up to do his job better where he makes millions of dollars.

    That's adult-like.

    hoortaH 1 Reply

  • Ah, yes... "millions"... all the validation that is needed.

    Brilliant!

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    i know manziel wasn't involved with this DUI situation but what i don't understand is why these guys (any football player/celebs etc.) don't get everything they need to party with i.e. women, drugs, guns whatever and go to their mansion and lock the fucking door. the need to show your face and be TMZed at 2:30 in the fucking morning is beyond all comprehension. especially when you know your employer frowns on such behavior.

    needs to cut ties with that bodyguard.

    @miktoxic said:

    ... what i don't understand is why these guys (any football player/celebs etc.) don't get everything they need to party with i.e. women, drugs, guns whatever and go to their mansion and lock the fucking door.

    Isn't that what Jerrah tried? 🙂

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • H HoundDawg

    So the same guy involved in the fight has now been caught with a DUI exactly one week right down to the time of morning it happened later. At least it lends itself to the idea the BOTH the guys fighting were drunk. I don't know if that says anything about Johnny, but it at least pokes some holes in the idea that only the "fan" was making drunken decisions.

    @hounddawg said:

    BOTH the guys fighting were drunk. I don't know if that says anything about Johnny, but it at least pokes some holes in the idea that only the "fan" was making drunken decisions.

    Birds of a feather......

  • Can't even remember how this escalated, but it's boring. Bottom line, I believe Johnny will succeed in the NFL, regardless of who likes him, who doesn't, who thinks he doesn't work hard enough even though they have no idea how hard he's working, or who thinks his stats don't matter but his "incidents" do. NFL history might be against me, Browns history is definitely against me, but Johnny Manziel history is on my side.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • Why not?

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
    ballpeenB C 2 Replies

  • I think so. He looked good considering what he was put into. Hoyer looked awful, again.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
    Browns149B 1 Reply

  • He has to start and not matter how bad he looks he finishes the season.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    I think so. He looked good considering what he was put into. Hoyer looked awful, again.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I think so. He looked good considering what he was put into. Hoyer looked awful, again.

    I agree, Hoyer has gotten worse not better

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Yes.. Hoyer has given it to him....

    BobPound!

  • Yep. I say go for it....

  • With such a bright outlook and a game with a "playoff atmosphere" laid an egg, Johnny likely starts next week, but if he lays an egg the back 3 will be sad.

  • As much as I was a Hoyer fan, as my ProfilePic can show, it is JMoney's time

  • No

  • ManzielSucks said:

    This is it. The beginning of the end for Pettine and company.

    The Browns could lose every game from here on out and it wouldn't be the end for Pettine and company. He's already more than doubled our win total from last year. How quickly we forget.

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
    bbedwardB 1 Reply

  • Playoffs are over for us. Gotta give JFF a chance to play. He needs this time to prepare for next season. Of course next year we will need someone to prepare for next season. "wait til next " is our battle cry.

  • OsirisO Osiris

    ManzielSucks said:

    This is it. The beginning of the end for Pettine and company.

    The Browns could lose every game from here on out and it wouldn't be the end for Pettine and company. He's already more than doubled our win total from last year. How quickly we forget.

    @osiris said:

    The Browns could lose every game from here on out and it wouldn't be the end for Pettine and company. He's already more than doubled our win total from last year. How quickly we forget.

    Ditto. Not gonna see PITT or BAL drop their guys after dropping to 7-5 in "must win" games.

    The fact PITT and BAL lost also means we aren't out of the playoff hunt. Next week against IND is tough and huge.

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