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  • H HoundDawg

    So the same guy involved in the fight has now been caught with a DUI exactly one week right down to the time of morning it happened later. At least it lends itself to the idea the BOTH the guys fighting were drunk. I don't know if that says anything about Johnny, but it at least pokes some holes in the idea that only the "fan" was making drunken decisions.

    @hounddawg said:

    BOTH the guys fighting were drunk. I don't know if that says anything about Johnny, but it at least pokes some holes in the idea that only the "fan" was making drunken decisions.

    Birds of a feather......

  • Can't even remember how this escalated, but it's boring. Bottom line, I believe Johnny will succeed in the NFL, regardless of who likes him, who doesn't, who thinks he doesn't work hard enough even though they have no idea how hard he's working, or who thinks his stats don't matter but his "incidents" do. NFL history might be against me, Browns history is definitely against me, but Johnny Manziel history is on my side.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • Why not?

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
    ballpeenB C 2 Replies

  • I think so. He looked good considering what he was put into. Hoyer looked awful, again.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
    Browns149B 1 Reply

  • He has to start and not matter how bad he looks he finishes the season.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    I think so. He looked good considering what he was put into. Hoyer looked awful, again.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    I think so. He looked good considering what he was put into. Hoyer looked awful, again.

    I agree, Hoyer has gotten worse not better

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Yes.. Hoyer has given it to him....

    BobPound!

  • Yep. I say go for it....

  • With such a bright outlook and a game with a "playoff atmosphere" laid an egg, Johnny likely starts next week, but if he lays an egg the back 3 will be sad.

  • As much as I was a Hoyer fan, as my ProfilePic can show, it is JMoney's time

  • No

  • ManzielSucks said:

    This is it. The beginning of the end for Pettine and company.

    The Browns could lose every game from here on out and it wouldn't be the end for Pettine and company. He's already more than doubled our win total from last year. How quickly we forget.

    "I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta
    bbedwardB 1 Reply

  • Playoffs are over for us. Gotta give JFF a chance to play. He needs this time to prepare for next season. Of course next year we will need someone to prepare for next season. "wait til next " is our battle cry.

  • OsirisO Osiris

    ManzielSucks said:

    This is it. The beginning of the end for Pettine and company.

    The Browns could lose every game from here on out and it wouldn't be the end for Pettine and company. He's already more than doubled our win total from last year. How quickly we forget.

    @osiris said:

    The Browns could lose every game from here on out and it wouldn't be the end for Pettine and company. He's already more than doubled our win total from last year. How quickly we forget.

    Ditto. Not gonna see PITT or BAL drop their guys after dropping to 7-5 in "must win" games.

    The fact PITT and BAL lost also means we aren't out of the playoff hunt. Next week against IND is tough and huge.

  • I'll have to think about it just like Pettine now has to think it through before making that drastic a change. I really wanted JF to get a whole season with spot duty. Today qualifies for that since the game was just about gone anyway. A good time to see what the rook could do. But do you take the chance now if you're Pettine? I don't know. It's not a snap decision that's for sure. Be interesting to hear what he has to say in all post game pressers.

    bbedwardB Mr. Make-BelieveM 2 Replies
  • T TexasAg1969

    I'll have to think about it just like Pettine now has to think it through before making that drastic a change. I really wanted JF to get a whole season with spot duty. Today qualifies for that since the game was just about gone anyway. A good time to see what the rook could do. But do you take the chance now if you're Pettine? I don't know. It's not a snap decision that's for sure. Be interesting to hear what he has to say in all post game pressers.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'll have to think about it just like Pettine now has to think it through before making that drastic a change. I really wanted JF to get a whole season with spot duty. Today qualifies for that since the game was just about gone anyway. A good time to see what the rook could do. But do you take the chance now if you're Pettine? I don't know. It's not a snap decision that's for sure. Be interesting to hear what he has to say in all post game pressers.

    I'm fairly confident he's only going to be asked about 1 thing in the pressers about 20 different ways. Hopefully the media is better than that.

  • T TexasAg1969

    I'll have to think about it just like Pettine now has to think it through before making that drastic a change. I really wanted JF to get a whole season with spot duty. Today qualifies for that since the game was just about gone anyway. A good time to see what the rook could do. But do you take the chance now if you're Pettine? I don't know. It's not a snap decision that's for sure. Be interesting to hear what he has to say in all post game pressers.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'll have to think about it just like Pettine now has to think it through before making that drastic a change. I really wanted JF to get a whole season with spot duty. Today qualifies for that since the game was just about gone anyway. A good time to see what the rook could do. But do you take the chance now if you're Pettine? I don't know. It's not a snap decision that's for sure. Be interesting to hear what he has to say in all post game pressers.

    I still think they're going to give the ball to Hoyer against the Colts. Last chance to save the season, they'll likely prefer to have the guy back there who got 'em this far.

    Not saying I agree with it. And not suggesting it's the wise choice. But I think next game is a last-ditch effort for playoff position and Hoyer will be given his last chance.

  • Yes. Unfortunately playoffs are pretty much over for us now. Start the learning process for Johnny.

    bbedwardB OsirisO 2 Replies
  • R ReginaBrownsFan

    Yes. Unfortunately playoffs are pretty much over for us now. Start the learning process for Johnny.

    @reginabrownsfan said:

    Yes. Unfortunately playoffs are pretty much over for us now. Start the learning process for Johnny.

    No they aren't. BAL and PITT lost and fell into a 3 way tie with us. We still play BAL. Cincy is continuing to prove their scrubbiness, we get another crack at them too. We still determine our own fate.

    👍

  • Pettine and the coaches see Manziel in practice day in and day out. If he was playing like Luck we would've seen him weeks ago. He got a shot today cause Hoyer played like shit again. The coaches will evaluate who gives them the best shot against Indy and my guess is that will be Hoyer. Can't deny the drive Manziel had but let's be honest there is a huge difference between, a spark and score, and executing a game plan.

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