Jonathan Paul Manziel
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@josephsuxdick said:
No, the only one who's failed here is YOU. It doesn't matter what it was ruled, the fact is, this Ultimate Clown moment has just EXPLODED all over the web (seriously, check it out for yourself.) That's what counts.
And by the way, it WAS a fumble, regardless of how they called it. Geez.
You're a fucking Retard.
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@josephsuxdick said:
No, the only one who's failed here is YOU. It doesn't matter what it was ruled, the fact is, this Ultimate Clown moment has just EXPLODED all over the web (seriously, check it out for yourself.) That's what counts.
And by the way, it WAS a fumble, regardless of how they called it. Geez.
Seems like his TD drive is exploding all over the web. More than the incomplete pass.
Happy the stoolers lost to an NFC south team every other team in the AFCN beat. At home, no less.
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@josephsuxdick said:
this Ultimate Clown moment has just EXPLODED all over the web (seriously, check it out for yourself.)
suxdix: to some people that might be a fail by manziel, to others that will be a jerk off reel.
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One fucking drive and he goes 80 yards, makes great throws, and scores a rad ass running TD and people want to go back to Hoyer?
What fucking game were you guys watching?
That same game you were. The one when Johnny came in against the Bills J.V Dline, was lucky enough not to have a bad decision picked off and made up for it with some good plays.
You're acting like he came in and set the world on fire.
Someone said it before, the coaches see these two every damn day. They put Kwaun over Gilbert because Williams was producing better. So clearly they have no alliegence to any one player.
If Manziel has heads and shoulders been the superior QB on roster then he would have been starting several weeks ago.
He was put in because Hoyer was ineffective many times, not because he fought his way into the starting spot.
Let's see how this week of practice goes before you call other people Retarded for not jumping on the bandwagon as quickly as you.
That same game you were. The one when Johnny came in against the Bills J.V Dline, was lucky enough not to have a bad decision picked off and made up for it with some good plays.
You're acting like he came in and set the world on fire.
Someone said it before, the coaches see these two every damn day. They put Kwaun over Gilbert because Williams was producing better. So clearly they have no alliegence to any one player.
If Manziel has heads and shoulders been the superior QB on roster then he would have been starting several weeks ago.
He was put in because Hoyer was ineffective many times, not because he fought his way into the starting spot.
Let's see how this week of practice goes before you call other people Retarded for not jumping on the bandwagon as quickly as you.
It's not about what Manziel did in his series, it's about what Brian Hoyer has done the past 3 weeks:
COMPLETELY SUCK.
Manziel can't be ANY WORSE than Hoyer. Hoyer has been hot dog shit and the coaches finally had enough.
JFF got a series and did what Brian Hoyer hasn't done in weeks, score a TD.
I want to go to the playoffs and win games and Brian Hoyer isn't helping that cause.
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First: I think of BH and JF like Favre and Rodgers. Fan of Hoyer let Johnny sit and learn.
Second: WE do not need to see anything. Pettine gets to see it in practice everyday. I trust NFL coaches judgement more than any guy sitting on his couch on Sundays drinking beer watching the game second guessing every decision.
Third: Hoyers interception, even though it was a piss poor throw to JG (1 brownie to 3 bills) anybody notice JGs body language when it was intercepted. I wasnt a fan of that no matter how bad the throw was.
Fourth: Manziel or Hoyer against Indy. IDK, like some have said Hoyer has regressed. What made him "good" was game managing and minimal mistakes. He hasnt been that guy for a couple of weeks. JF had a td drive but the game was pretty much over and the bills D didnt game plan for him. IF JM is ready start him, if not BH. Im a bum who was at bar louie in cbus watching the game, ill let Pettine and co. make that decision.
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@josephsuxdick said:
No, the only one who's failed here is YOU. It doesn't matter what it was ruled, the fact is, this Ultimate Clown moment has just EXPLODED all over the web (seriously, check it out for yourself.) That's what counts.
And by the way, it WAS a fumble, regardless of how they called it. Geez.
Oh boy! I'm sure Manziel, the Browns and us fans are going to be so humiliated that the QB made a smart play after a bad snap!
The play was ruled a fumble on the field. The NFL replay needed indisputable proof that it was an incomplete pass to overturn in. The NFL has made it crystal clear this year that they are sticking to a more literal meaning of that. But I'm sure those people just changed the call because they have Manziel fever right?
Are we also just not going to address the fact again that the Steelers lost to a team the Browns beat? You are the epitome of why everyone hates Steelers fans.
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How bout we wait one more week before we pull the plug on Hoyer . It's a pretty good bet now the ONLY way we get in is by winning the division. Let's look at it realistically . By far the best team we will have faced this year is the Colts next week. I don't think we can beat them no matter which QB starts, but I'd give Hoyer this last shot. I think he deserves it. If we lose then put Manzeil in and let's see how magic he really is the rest of the season. That way he can prove under NFL pressure that he has what it takes especially against two of our three division rivals . If he can beat them I'd let him "borrow" the car. If he can beat Denver I'd sign the title over to him.
GO BROWNS !
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First: I think of BH and JF like Favre and Rodgers. Fan of Hoyer let Johnny sit and learn.
Second: WE do not need to see anything. Pettine gets to see it in practice everyday. I trust NFL coaches judgement more than any guy sitting on his couch on Sundays drinking beer watching the game second guessing every decision.
Third: Hoyers interception, even though it was a piss poor throw to JG (1 brownie to 3 bills) anybody notice JGs body language when it was intercepted. I wasnt a fan of that no matter how bad the throw was.
Fourth: Manziel or Hoyer against Indy. IDK, like some have said Hoyer has regressed. What made him "good" was game managing and minimal mistakes. He hasnt been that guy for a couple of weeks. JF had a td drive but the game was pretty much over and the bills D didnt game plan for him. IF JM is ready start him, if not BH. Im a bum who was at bar louie in cbus watching the game, ill let Pettine and co. make that decision.
WE do not need to see anything. Pettine gets to see it in practice everyday. I trust NFL coaches judgement more than any guy sitting on his couch on Sundays drinking beer watching the game second guessing every decision. IF JM is ready start him, if not BH. Im a bum who was at bar louie in cbus watching the game, ill let Pettine and co. make that decision.
Seeing as how fans are the ones putting asses in seats and jacking up the ratings, there will be immense pressure to play Manziel next week if Hoyer starts and plays like the shit. The Boo's will rain down and the last fucking thing this team needs is to lose the locker room. This front office is going to tolerate a rain of boo's at home.
I trust Pettine and company will make the right decision like they did today.
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ManzielSucks said:
TD against second string defense that was in at the time.
Hahaha you're a fucking Retarded peasant.
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Being a Colts fan, Manziel worries me more than Hoyer. Hoyer is a bum. Manziel will probably turn it over a couple of times,but he might make a spectacular play or two and some drive-extending plays with his feet. Hoyer is garbage.
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How bout we wait one more week before we pull the plug on Hoyer . It's a pretty good bet now the ONLY way we get in is by winning the division. Let's look at it realistically . By far the best team we will have faced this year is the Colts next week. I don't think we can beat them no matter which QB starts, but I'd give Hoyer this last shot. I think he deserves it. If we lose then put Manzeil in and let's see how magic he really is the rest of the season. That way he can prove under NFL pressure that he has what it takes especially against two of our three division rivals . If he can beat them I'd let him "borrow" the car. If he can beat Denver I'd sign the title over to him.
GO BROWNS !
How bout we wait one more week before we pull the plug on Hoyer.
The plug was pulled on Hoyer TODAY by Pettine.
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ManzielSucks said:
Why is the truth Retarded? No football talk just telling me "fucking Retarded peasant"
At least you agree then the Bills had taken the defense out for that drive.
No, they didn't you genetically defective failed experiment that should have been shot into a tissue,
they still had their starters in you fucking failure at life.
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@josephsuxdick said:
Am I? Seriously dude, even the RAVENS fans are laughing their asses off:
You're less successful at life than Johnny Manziel it eats you alive. It burns you so bad.
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@josephsuxdick said:
Am I? Seriously dude, even the RAVENS fans are laughing their asses off:
I don't call people names. But I couldn't give 2 shits at what the F Ravens fans are saying. They are such classy fans that they wore their "Ray Rice" Jerseys to the game, even after the video was released.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Hoyer back at the helm next week but his leash is shorter than ever and his fate is sealed. Brian hoyer will NOT be starting for the browns next year. Johnny manziel WILL be the 2015 starter
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
This goes back to my original gripe about the draft. They would be so much better if they would learn how to draft in the first round. Since they wasted their two first picks on Gilbert and Manziel its Farmer in the hot seat, not Pettine. Pettine has done an extremely good job considering no big tall wide receivers and injuries galore on defense. Pettine and Shanahan should be commended. As for Manziel, they'd better play him no matter what to decide if once again, they blew it in the first round.
DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD! -
I wouldn't be surprised to see Hoyer back at the helm next week but his leash is shorter than ever and his fate is sealed. Brian hoyer will NOT be starting for the browns next year. Johnny manziel WILL be the 2015 starter
I wouldn't be surprised to see Hoyer back at the helm next week but his leash is shorter than ever and his fate is sealed. Brian hoyer will NOT be starting for the browns next year. Johnny manziel WILL be the 2015 starter
I agree on the starter next year, but why wouldn't we start him? They need to see what he has for free agent/draft decisions, don't you think?
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This goes back to my original gripe about the draft. They would be so much better if they would learn how to draft in the first round. Since they wasted their two first picks on Gilbert and Manziel its Farmer in the hot seat, not Pettine. Pettine has done an extremely good job considering no big tall wide receivers and injuries galore on defense. Pettine and Shanahan should be commended. As for Manziel, they'd better play him no matter what to decide if once again, they blew it in the first round.
This goes back to my original gripe about the draft. They would be so much better if they would learn how to draft in the first round. Since they wasted their two first picks on Gilbert and Manziel its Farmer in the hot seat, not Pettine. Pettine has done an extremely good job considering no big tall wide receivers and injuries galore on defense. Pettine and Shanahan should be commended. As for Manziel, they'd better play him no matter what to decide if once again, they blew it in the first round.
you were doing so good there for a second. as soon as you bring up the draft you fail.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Hoyer back at the helm next week but his leash is shorter than ever and his fate is sealed. Brian hoyer will NOT be starting for the browns next year. Johnny manziel WILL be the 2015 starter
I wouldn't be surprised to see Hoyer back at the helm next week but his leash is shorter than ever and his fate is sealed. Brian hoyer will NOT be starting for the browns next year. Johnny manziel WILL be the 2015 starter
I agree that Brian's fate is sealed and he won't be the starter next year, as that's why this regime drafted Johnny. So with that, why not give Johnny some time this year now that Brian has played himself out of a job? ( See Stockton, all you had to do was chill, and you would've been around to bask in your love of Johnny .......... Too bad you're a douche )
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he came in 12 mins left in 4th quarter, that wasnt second string or prevent. it was same dfense hoyer seen the previous drive... and the browns being down let the bills pinthere ears back and all out rush the qb, makng his job actually harder...you guys that have blind loyalty to hoyer or manziel make this board unreadable at times...ManzielSucks said:
TD against second string defense that was in at the time.
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