Jonathan Paul Manziel
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First: I think of BH and JF like Favre and Rodgers. Fan of Hoyer let Johnny sit and learn.
Second: WE do not need to see anything. Pettine gets to see it in practice everyday. I trust NFL coaches judgement more than any guy sitting on his couch on Sundays drinking beer watching the game second guessing every decision.
Third: Hoyers interception, even though it was a piss poor throw to JG (1 brownie to 3 bills) anybody notice JGs body language when it was intercepted. I wasnt a fan of that no matter how bad the throw was.
Fourth: Manziel or Hoyer against Indy. IDK, like some have said Hoyer has regressed. What made him "good" was game managing and minimal mistakes. He hasnt been that guy for a couple of weeks. JF had a td drive but the game was pretty much over and the bills D didnt game plan for him. IF JM is ready start him, if not BH. Im a bum who was at bar louie in cbus watching the game, ill let Pettine and co. make that decision.
WE do not need to see anything. Pettine gets to see it in practice everyday. I trust NFL coaches judgement more than any guy sitting on his couch on Sundays drinking beer watching the game second guessing every decision. IF JM is ready start him, if not BH. Im a bum who was at bar louie in cbus watching the game, ill let Pettine and co. make that decision.
Seeing as how fans are the ones putting asses in seats and jacking up the ratings, there will be immense pressure to play Manziel next week if Hoyer starts and plays like the shit. The Boo's will rain down and the last fucking thing this team needs is to lose the locker room. This front office is going to tolerate a rain of boo's at home.
I trust Pettine and company will make the right decision like they did today.
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ManzielSucks said:
TD against second string defense that was in at the time.
Hahaha you're a fucking Retarded peasant.
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Being a Colts fan, Manziel worries me more than Hoyer. Hoyer is a bum. Manziel will probably turn it over a couple of times,but he might make a spectacular play or two and some drive-extending plays with his feet. Hoyer is garbage.
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How bout we wait one more week before we pull the plug on Hoyer . It's a pretty good bet now the ONLY way we get in is by winning the division. Let's look at it realistically . By far the best team we will have faced this year is the Colts next week. I don't think we can beat them no matter which QB starts, but I'd give Hoyer this last shot. I think he deserves it. If we lose then put Manzeil in and let's see how magic he really is the rest of the season. That way he can prove under NFL pressure that he has what it takes especially against two of our three division rivals . If he can beat them I'd let him "borrow" the car. If he can beat Denver I'd sign the title over to him.
GO BROWNS !
How bout we wait one more week before we pull the plug on Hoyer.
The plug was pulled on Hoyer TODAY by Pettine.
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ManzielSucks said:
Why is the truth Retarded? No football talk just telling me "fucking Retarded peasant"
At least you agree then the Bills had taken the defense out for that drive.
No, they didn't you genetically defective failed experiment that should have been shot into a tissue,
they still had their starters in you fucking failure at life.
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@josephsuxdick said:
Am I? Seriously dude, even the RAVENS fans are laughing their asses off:
You're less successful at life than Johnny Manziel it eats you alive. It burns you so bad.
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@josephsuxdick said:
Am I? Seriously dude, even the RAVENS fans are laughing their asses off:
I don't call people names. But I couldn't give 2 shits at what the F Ravens fans are saying. They are such classy fans that they wore their "Ray Rice" Jerseys to the game, even after the video was released.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Hoyer back at the helm next week but his leash is shorter than ever and his fate is sealed. Brian hoyer will NOT be starting for the browns next year. Johnny manziel WILL be the 2015 starter
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
This goes back to my original gripe about the draft. They would be so much better if they would learn how to draft in the first round. Since they wasted their two first picks on Gilbert and Manziel its Farmer in the hot seat, not Pettine. Pettine has done an extremely good job considering no big tall wide receivers and injuries galore on defense. Pettine and Shanahan should be commended. As for Manziel, they'd better play him no matter what to decide if once again, they blew it in the first round.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Hoyer back at the helm next week but his leash is shorter than ever and his fate is sealed. Brian hoyer will NOT be starting for the browns next year. Johnny manziel WILL be the 2015 starter
I wouldn't be surprised to see Hoyer back at the helm next week but his leash is shorter than ever and his fate is sealed. Brian hoyer will NOT be starting for the browns next year. Johnny manziel WILL be the 2015 starter
I agree on the starter next year, but why wouldn't we start him? They need to see what he has for free agent/draft decisions, don't you think?
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This goes back to my original gripe about the draft. They would be so much better if they would learn how to draft in the first round. Since they wasted their two first picks on Gilbert and Manziel its Farmer in the hot seat, not Pettine. Pettine has done an extremely good job considering no big tall wide receivers and injuries galore on defense. Pettine and Shanahan should be commended. As for Manziel, they'd better play him no matter what to decide if once again, they blew it in the first round.
This goes back to my original gripe about the draft. They would be so much better if they would learn how to draft in the first round. Since they wasted their two first picks on Gilbert and Manziel its Farmer in the hot seat, not Pettine. Pettine has done an extremely good job considering no big tall wide receivers and injuries galore on defense. Pettine and Shanahan should be commended. As for Manziel, they'd better play him no matter what to decide if once again, they blew it in the first round.
you were doing so good there for a second. as soon as you bring up the draft you fail.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Hoyer back at the helm next week but his leash is shorter than ever and his fate is sealed. Brian hoyer will NOT be starting for the browns next year. Johnny manziel WILL be the 2015 starter
I wouldn't be surprised to see Hoyer back at the helm next week but his leash is shorter than ever and his fate is sealed. Brian hoyer will NOT be starting for the browns next year. Johnny manziel WILL be the 2015 starter
I agree that Brian's fate is sealed and he won't be the starter next year, as that's why this regime drafted Johnny. So with that, why not give Johnny some time this year now that Brian has played himself out of a job? ( See Stockton, all you had to do was chill, and you would've been around to bask in your love of Johnny .......... Too bad you're a douche )
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he came in 12 mins left in 4th quarter, that wasnt second string or prevent. it was same dfense hoyer seen the previous drive... and the browns being down let the bills pinthere ears back and all out rush the qb, makng his job actually harder...you guys that have blind loyalty to hoyer or manziel make this board unreadable at times...ManzielSucks said:
TD against second string defense that was in at the time.
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Hoyer has sucked for the the last three weeks. Look at the stats. We can make a change that if we would have earlier we may not be in the dire straights we are in. Manziel is 20 times the qb Hoyer is.Do you think he would have been cut by several teams if he was the second coming of Jesus? C,mon don't be a bunch of dumbasses.. This seasons not over,we still have a shot!!
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What hind of name is Manziel Sucks??? WHAT A DOUCHEBAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Am I the only one that thinks that our offense was not better but more in sync before Gordon came back ? It just seems that if Gordon gets the ball early such as on slants he's more productive. He and Hoyer haven't really been on the same page and I think Hoyer's trying to force him the ball at times. There were four or five last week and again this week where Hoyer and Gordon just weren't on the same page. Or (as the almighty wise Walter says) I'm just fucking Retarded.
GO BROWNS !
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All right, I said in the tavern that I wouldn't respond here this week, but here goes.
I like Brian, and have been in his corner 100%, but I don't like the way Brian has regressed the last 5 weeks culminating in today's performance. If Pettine makes a change, it is not just because of how Brian played today, and even the most biased Brian supporter HAS to see and agree with this. He will make the change because of Brian's complete body of work, and how that body has been regressing.
There is never a perfect time to make a change at QB because of lack of production, but right now, it's about as good as it gets for Pettine. We are still in the playoff race with a 1/4 of the season left to be played. Johnny has had time to watch, listen and learn and is probably as ready now as he will be any time this year.
Hopefully Pettine will be smart and not give any type of definitive answer on who starts next week as to keep the Colts guessing and give Johnny any tiny advantage he can give him............ The press and we won't like it, but if he's smart, it's what he'll do.
Based on the last 5 weeks and if I'm the head coach, I start Johnny......... and that coming from a Brian supporter.
All right, I said in the tavern that I wouldn't respond here this week, but here goes.
I like Brian, and have been in his corner 100%, but I don't like the way Brian has regressed the last 5 weeks culminating in today's performance. If Pettine makes a change, it is not just because of how Brian played today, and even the most biased Brian supporter HAS to see and agree with this. He will make the change because of Brian's complete body of work, and how that body has been regressing.
There is never a perfect time to make a change at QB because of lack of production, but right now, it's about as good as it gets for Pettine. We are still in the playoff race with a 1/4 of the season left to be played. Johnny has had time to watch, listen and learn and is probably as ready now as he will be any time this year.
Hopefully Pettine will be smart and not give any type of definitive answer on who starts next week as to keep the Colts guessing and give Johnny any tiny advantage he can give him............ The press and we won't like it, but if he's smart, it's what he'll do.
Based on the last 5 weeks and if I'm the head coach, I start Johnny......... and that coming from a Brian supporter.
Well said D. I am a huge fan of Bryan and the whole story of him becoming the starter as well. I wanted it to pan out for him. The reality is that he has slowly regressed and now in the last two games has been horrible. He may have led us to the comeback win last week but there would have been no comeback necessary without the horrible play at QB. I dont like Manziel one bit as a human being but I am rooting for him as our QB moving forward.
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I suspect a safari this week pending the decision on starting QB. Much rage if it's Hoyer, many sky high if it's Manziel.
I hope IF it's Hoyer next week and they struggle on offense that they pull him very early. Don't want to see the guy get boo'd off the field by his hometown,would rather see him head to the sidelines before that happens.
But then again, I feel like they should probably make their decision tomorrow after tape rather than split reps and flip a coin.
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I agree. Brian seemed to spread it around more without Puffy. Hawk in the slot was invisible today.
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