Jonathan Paul Manziel
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wrong. most people that don't like manziel, don't like him for what he brings to the table besides his athletic skills. it's the media circus, the flinging his nose at authority and the feeble minded idiots he has in legions of fans.
So basically they hate America.
Let's be a little more honest here.
They hate Manziel for very personal reasons. Maybe they're racist, and they don't like a white QB acting black. Maybe the rich QB they knew in HS smashed their crush.
Whatever it is, it is personal with these types.
How else do you explain someone actually citing a fake id possession charge? ooooo, got him there!
they're irrational and feelings based like Manziel wore the dress they wanted to wear.
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Hoyer is done in Cleveland now, we have to see what we have with Johnny.
I'm looking forward to see what he brings, exciting times.
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whats so bad about what johnny does off the field. certainly no worse than what josh gordan has done, and u guys are all over his nutsacks.
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We are Johnny Football. Embrace it.
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whats so bad about what johnny does off the field. certainly no worse than what josh gordan has done, and u guys are all over his nutsacks.
whats so bad about what johnny does off the field. certainly no worse than what josh gordan has done, and u guys are all over his nutsacks.
Good point. From what I can see JM has been nothing but a good teammate so far.
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I have no idea what the Las Vegas odds are and wouldn't bet my life but...
If I was a betting man I would put my money on Brian Hoyer starting next week.
(I'm not putting a value judgement on that prediction just guessing that's the kind of decision Mike Pettine will make)
WSS
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I've been a Hoyer supporter since last season when he came in for Weeden and we looked like a different team. I wanted him to succeed, and justified his bad play with "well, every qb has a bad game". Now that it has become a pattern, I have no problem with Manziel at qb. In fact, I called it. I texted my nephew at 3:30 yesterday, when Hoyer threw his 2nd interception....that it might be Johnny Football time. I'm not thrilled about Hoyer not transforming into a quality qb, and I'm just as hopeful that JF will become the guy. This teams needs a stable, consistent qb....but we also need a lot more. Our special teams, offensive line, and run defense all suck. Period. It's a miracle to be sitting at 7 and 5 at this point. A little off the subject... whoever referred to Andy Dalton as Howdy Doody....I thought that name was reserved for Weeden. Check out Scott Farkas....the bully in "A Christmas Story". That's definitely Dalton.
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I have no idea what the Las Vegas odds are and wouldn't bet my life but...
If I was a betting man I would put my money on Brian Hoyer starting next week.
(I'm not putting a value judgement on that prediction just guessing that's the kind of decision Mike Pettine will make)
WSS
I'd bet my life earnings, my house (my parents houseI have no idea what the Las Vegas odds are and wouldn't bet my life but...
If I was a betting man I would put my money on Brian Hoyer starting next week.
(I'm not putting a value judgement on that prediction just guessing that's the kind of decision Mike Pettine will make)
WSS
), my family, and everything I own that manziel starts next week
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My dad is like some of you guys here, he all but said he wants to see Manziel fail to prove he was right about not drafting him. REALLY? The Browns are in a playoff race for the first time in a long time and people want to see a dude fail? Good grief.
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My dad is like some of you guys here, he all but said he wants to see Manziel fail to prove he was right about not drafting him. REALLY? The Browns are in a playoff race for the first time in a long time and people want to see a dude fail? Good grief.
My dad is like some of you guys here, he all but said he wants to see Manziel fail to prove he was right about not drafting him. REALLY? The Browns are in a playoff race for the first time in a long time and people want to see a dude fail? Good grief.
Pride > everything if you're a real man. I'm proud of your dad on his pride and on his opinion of manziel. He's got my approval
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Best case scenario is that Manziel starts and does enough to get us a wild card spot
Fans/Media/Team will buy in and the Browns can let Hoyer go to a team that he'll get another shot at starting.
We have seen QB's repeatedly get their confidence messed with (because of a potential qv change) and then flame out (Couch, Anderson, Quinn, Weeden, and even Boyer who looks like he's been pressing more and more as of late)
The switch needs to be permanent and with the Browns in position to go 2-1 heading into what may be play-in game week 17, we need the whole team and game plan on point to hopefully start a successful career for Manziel.
Confidence and support from Coaching Staff, Front Office, and sadly also the fans/media becomes everything with QB's
Here's to hoping Manziel leads the Browns into the Playoffs because that scenario is the best case for now and the future
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I would imagine we will know fairly soon. Somebody is keeping an eye on practice right? If Johnny is going to start I would hope he's getting reps with the first team.
WSS
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ManzielSucks said:
They lost to the Bills... Playoff hopes are done. I guess it is time to see what Manziel doesn't bring for the games we have left.
Who the fuck are you
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Ive been saying hoyer sucks since the beggining of the season. I said start johny football. Everybody ridiculed me. Johny manziel for life
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Now everyone acted like Hoyer is good, i said start manziel from the get go could've been 8-4 or 9-3 with manziel, now we are stuck battling. If pettine doesnt start johnny we don't make the playoffs. Mark my words we are making the playoffs if manziel plays it out
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Taking back my Page 1 opinion that Johnny should start..
That was my excited visceral reaction to a really exciting end to a REALLY FUCKING BORING and bad game, not just by Hoyer, but the majority of our team. Gordon was out of sync all game, West ran like the rookie he is, and was not helped(nor was Crowell) by a predictable and horrible play calling by our Offensive Coordinators.
Manziel gave us a taste of what CAN BE.. But this must be tempered by the fact that the 80 yard TD drive was during JUNK TIME by the Bills Defense.. I am sure the Buffalo front 4 was just salivating at the possibility of sacking Johnny Fucking Football and getting that distinction in the highlights, but the reality is that they were in prevent defense and were only rushing 4...
This is a very small and very incomplete sample from which to decide whether we hitch our wagon to a rookie, with the first playoff possibility in nearly 8 years on the line...
Hoyer is the right decision and must be given the green light against the Colts at home... Hoyer has proven he OWNS the Bengals, both at home and now at Paul Brown stadium. Hoyer has a great home field advantage and the next two games are home games.
Pettine will choose Hoyer.. I think Hoyer realizes that this is it, he is on a short leash and he won't make it to the half if he throws another pair of interceptions without any TD's.. It isn't acceptable to this coach.. But Hoyer deserves the chance to bounce back from this embarrassing loss as he has laid everything on the line for this team and this city and fans.
Don't get me wrong, I am stoked to see Manziel get out there, but I am even more stoked to see the Browns make the playoffs THIS YEAR!!!! Who would have thought it possible just 3 or 4 months ago....
Things are looking up in Cleveland.. I think we have a future star in Johnny Manziel and I am so excited to see him play.. But now is not the time.
BobPound!
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My dad is like some of you guys here, he all but said he wants to see Manziel fail to prove he was right about not drafting him. REALLY? The Browns are in a playoff race for the first time in a long time and people want to see a dude fail? Good grief.
My dad is like some of you guys here, he all but said he wants to see Manziel fail to prove he was right about not drafting him. REALLY? The Browns are in a playoff race for the first time in a long time and people want to see a dude fail? Good grief.
Hey, he's YOUR dad! Sounds like a personal problem.
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Now everyone acted like Hoyer is good, i said start manziel from the get go could've been 8-4 or 9-3 with manziel, now we are stuck battling. If pettine doesnt start johnny we don't make the playoffs. Mark my words we are making the playoffs if manziel plays it out
Now everyone acted like Hoyer is good, i said start manziel from the get go could've been 8-4 or 9-3 with manziel, now we are stuck battling. If pettine doesnt start johnny we don't make the playoffs. Mark my words we are making the playoffs if manziel plays it out
Manziel was in for one drive. You know that right? I want Manziel to succeed because I want the Browns to succeed. However, I don't sit here and worship at a shrine to the guy until he can prove he is starting quality in the next few games. If he crashes and burns, I want you Manzealots to acknowledge his failure.
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Holy eff this thread is impossible to read through.
I'll take some Manziel crackers if it means the Browns win more games. I'm excited to see Johnny play, but only because we are still in contention for playoffs and to see if he can pull us through our current mini-slump.
However Pettine stated he will see how this week's practice goes and will announce his starter on Wednesday. Either way, Colts are going to be pressed to include studying Manziel this week.
Whoever is under center better be damned ready because they are going to have to put points on the board to keep up with Luck. But Crowell and West will also be heavily relied on to go through Indy's mediocre rush D.
Win Browns goddammit, WIN.
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Now everyone acted like Hoyer is good, i said start manziel from the get go could've been 8-4 or 9-3 with manziel, now we are stuck battling. If pettine doesnt start johnny we don't make the playoffs. Mark my words we are making the playoffs if manziel plays it out
Manziel was in for one drive. You know that right? I want Manziel to succeed because I want the Browns to succeed. However, I don't sit here and worship at a shrine to the guy until he can prove he is starting quality in the next few games. If he crashes and burns, I want you Manzealots to acknowledge his failure.
Manziel was in for one drive. You know that right? I want Manziel to succeed because I want the Browns to succeed. However, I don't sit here and worship at a shrine to the guy until he can prove he is starting quality in the next few games. If he crashes and burns, I want you Manzealots to acknowledge his failure.
One scoring drive* He was in for the fumbling drive (turnover on downs) and maybe they had another one where they ran the clock out didn't get to see it.
I don't care who starts, as long as we finish 15-5!
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