Josh Gordon
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Well he could've had even more production of it weren't for his mistakes running routes or communication problems. Yes I know that some is on Hoyer for that also, but Josh has had some dusting of the cobwebs going on, you can tell
Now they have to regain chemistry with Manziel
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Posted my concerns with this in another thread about Hoyer's 1st interception vs Bills.
I hope I'm overreacting to what I read in his body language.
Forgot about that ball spin he did that cost 15 yards. Yeah Josh, be humbling...even if just a little bit.
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I'm afraid it's still all about him. The ghetto thing. he's great, but
that spinning the ball penalty, right after a play when THEY got
a taunting penalty?
And his mistakes...sure he's rusty, but there have been times when he
had no idea he was getting the ball, it seemed.
I don't know....
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Spinning the ball made every highlight reel on every sports station across the country. All year the Browns have shown class. That was not acceptable and the coaches will let him know it. I don't understand why he did that? Who was he trying to impress with a childish move costing a penalty. If this isn't a wake up call to Ray Farmer nothing is. Draft a frigging wide receiver! And while they're at it, draft a tight end. They're going to need oodles of help in the draft.
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I'm afraid it's still all about him. The ghetto thing. he's great, but
that spinning the ball penalty, right after a play when THEY got
a taunting penalty?
And his mistakes...sure he's rusty, but there have been times when he
had no idea he was getting the ball, it seemed.
I don't know....
I'm afraid it's still all about him. The ghetto thing. he's great, but
that spinning the ball penalty, right after a play when THEY got
a taunting penalty?
And his mistakes...sure he's rusty, but there have been times when he
had no idea he was getting the ball, it seemed.
I don't know....
Yeah that was a bad decision he made. But frankly both of those were bullshit penalties.
WSS
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He may have cost Hoyer his job because even last weeks final Int 'may" have been on Gordon to some extent. It's either miscommunication or Gordon just forgot how some of these routes are supposed to go down in the NFL. The spinning shit, I don't think he meant that ball to hit the BIlls player...I think he was trying to make the ball spin on the ground and just facepalmed failed it badly. It's because the ball hit the Bills player that it was ruled a penalty. What concerns me is that if he has trouble meshing with Hoyer how's it gonna work with Manziel? JM does not as of yet have the football brain Hoyer does, which is why I still think Hoyer starts next week but he knows he's on the shortest leash an NFL QB can be on....one fuck up and johnny get in there. Hoyer looked crushed on the sideline..felt bad, some of this wasn't his fault but enough of it was.
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Ghetto, schmetto...
Once the ball is in his hands, does anyone have any question about his "effort"?
The afterplay behavior was disappointing... almost like an homage to Little. But it's on Shanny to limit, if not eliminate, the option routes for Josh. Give him no decisions to make until he shows he can make good decisions. Just keep feeding quick slants, screens, short crosses, etc.
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The Bills defense was a bad matchup for the Browns offense, with no Mack, no Jordan, and no
Barnidge sp? at TE...
and they lost their second string C... playing with their 3rd string had to be unnerving,
and Gordon making mental errors apparently, and West's fumble...
I'd say Hoyer starts - I still don't think Manziel is ready yet. But the kid can play. In college,
maybe he'd have had time to throw that ball away on the errant snap.
Not the pros. It was almost a TD - he was pretty disappointed in himself on that one.
Hoyer has been forcing things. And I will say, it seems that Manziel has more arm to get passes
completed downfield, at least on the move. We'll see. But there's a lot to learn.
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I don't think Gordon likes hoyer very much. Hoyer has missed him on a lot of throws these last two games, even one yesterday josh just threw up his hands like "come on dude". I don't think josh thinks hoyer can hit him deep and it kind of looks like he is right. I bet you if JF comes in, body language will change.
Plus, once he gets that ball he tries harder than a lot of guys, he doesn't go down easy, always fighting for extra yards. That's the most important thing.
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I don't think Gordon likes hoyer very much. Hoyer has missed him on a lot of throws these last two games, even one yesterday josh just threw up his hands like "come on dude". I don't think josh thinks hoyer can hit him deep and it kind of looks like he is right. I bet you if JF comes in, body language will change.
Plus, once he gets that ball he tries harder than a lot of guys, he doesn't go down easy, always fighting for extra yards. That's the most important thing.
I don't think Gordon likes hoyer very much. Hoyer has missed him on a lot of throws these last two games, even one yesterday josh just threw up his hands like "come on dude". I don't think josh thinks hoyer can hit him deep and it kind of looks like he is right. I bet you if JF comes in, body language will change.
Plus, once he gets that ball he tries harder than a lot of guys, he doesn't go down easy, always fighting for extra yards. That's the most important thing.
That was kind of my take too.
Josh looked "frustrated".
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I don't think Gordon likes hoyer very much. Hoyer has missed him on a lot of throws these last two games, even one yesterday josh just threw up his hands like "come on dude". I don't think josh thinks hoyer can hit him deep and it kind of looks like he is right. I bet you if JF comes in, body language will change.
Plus, once he gets that ball he tries harder than a lot of guys, he doesn't go down easy, always fighting for extra yards. That's the most important thing.
That was kind of my take too.
Josh looked "frustrated".
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Ghetto, schmetto...
Once the ball is in his hands, does anyone have any question about his "effort"?
The afterplay behavior was disappointing... almost like an homage to Little. But it's on Shanny to limit, if not eliminate, the option routes for Josh. Give him no decisions to make until he shows he can make good decisions. Just keep feeding quick slants, screens, short crosses, etc.
Ghetto, schmetto...
Once the ball is in his hands, does anyone have any question about his "effort"?
The afterplay behavior was disappointing... almost like an homage to Little. But it's on Shanny to limit, if not eliminate, the option routes for Josh. Give him no decisions to make until he shows he can make good decisions. Just keep feeding quick slants, screens, short crosses, etc.
Glad he didn't do the 'ghetto Ferguson support the thug shuffle' before the game though.
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Trade the fucker before he catches another suspension, which my gut tells me is only a matter of time.
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Talent can only get you so far - the missed practice time clearly showed and cost us dearly
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Is this because he makes it look easy? He looks like he isn't running hard when in fact he is.
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