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  • tml1138T tml1138

    Of course politics is a lot of it. Rolling Stone is calling Haslam one of the worst owners on more than just the truck stop rebates, but because his company is the top supplier to the drilling and fracking industries. Doesn't get any more political than that.

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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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    @tml1138 said:

    Of course politics is a lot of it. Rolling Stone is calling Haslam one of the worst owners on more than just the truck stop rebates, but because his company is the top supplier to the drilling and fracking industries. Doesn't get any more political than that.

    So. OK, maybe then the list does not mean that these guys are the worst owners because of the way that they have mismanaged their teams.......or screwed over the fans.......but because these are just the 'baddest guys' out there because of the way they conduct their lives and business. If so, so be it. These are the worst owners from a personal life/political point of view, not a sports management point of view.

    I guess that is what I get for not reading the article.

    Edit, OK, after looking at the list it has about half to do with the management competency, and the other half because they are "personally/socially vile". Very well. Fair game I guess for Rolling Stone.

    Notwithstanding what they say here about these fatcat owners, each and every one of you wants your picture on the cover.

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      If you read the article it explains rationale

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        http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/lists/the-15-worst-owners-in-sports-20141125/jimmy-haslam-cleveland-browns-20141125

        Uncle Jimmy on the list.

        15. Charles Wang, New York Islanders

        14. The Wilpons, New York Mets

        13. The Ricketts Family, Chicago Cubs

        12. Woody Johnson, New York Jets

        11. Jerry Richardson, Carolina Panthers

        10. David Glass, Kansas City Royals

        9. Mike Brown, Cincinnati Bengals

        8. Jimmy Haslam, Cleveland Browns

        7. Dan Gilbert, Cleveland Cavaliers

        6. Clay Bennett and Aubrey McClendon, Oklahoma City Thunder

        5. The DeVos Family, Orlando Magic

        4. Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys

        3. James Dolan, New York Knicks/Rangers

        2. Jeffrey Loria, Miami Marlins

        1. Daniel Snyder, Washington Redskins

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        @kvoethe said:

        http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/lists/the-15-worst-owners-in-sports-20141125/jimmy-haslam-cleveland-browns-20141125

        Uncle Jimmy on the list.

        15. Charles Wang, New York Islanders

        14. The Wilpons, New York Mets

        13. The Ricketts Family, Chicago Cubs

        12. Woody Johnson, New York Jets

        11. Jerry Richardson, Carolina Panthers

        10. David Glass, Kansas City Royals

        9. Mike Brown, Cincinnati Bengals

        8. Jimmy Haslam, Cleveland Browns

        7. Dan Gilbert, Cleveland Cavaliers

        6. Clay Bennett and Aubrey McClendon, Oklahoma City Thunder

        5. The DeVos Family, Orlando Magic

        4. Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys

        3. James Dolan, New York Knicks/Rangers

        2. Jeffrey Loria, Miami Marlins

        1. Daniel Snyder, Washington Redskins

        Art Modell and Donald Sterling are missing which leads me to believe this means current owners. Otherwise this last would lack any credibility.

        Also, the reason Haslem is on there mainly has to do with the Pilot/Flying J scandal.

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          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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          i stopped giving a fuck about what rolling stone thought when i stepped into the 80s.

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            i stopped giving a fuck about what rolling stone thought when i stepped into the 80s.

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            Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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            @miktoxic said:

            i stopped giving a fuck about what rolling stone thought when i stepped into the 80s.

            Mik, for me, it may have been the 70s. LOL

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              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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              I think Jimmy has been a great owner.

              Our team has improved a great deal.

              The Improvements to the stadium have been tremendous

              Improvements will contiunue this off season. I can't wait to see the improvements.

              The south side of the stadium activities pre-game are fantastic.....I am going next week to see the ice sculpting...

              What this guy is talking about, I don't have a clue.......Go Jimmy!

              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                @jim_brown said:

                i got to agree that dan snyder is the worst....but to baltimore fans it will always be jim irsay, for sure.....hands down.....the cocksucking thief in the night.....

                You mean Robert Irsay, not Jim.

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                @the-gipper said:

                You mean Robert Irsay, not Jim.

                you are so right.....my bad...

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                  If Brian Hoyer owned a sports team he would be #1.

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                    VagitronV Vagitron wrote on last edited by
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                    Haslam hasnt been the owner long enough to be on the list. Beyond that and more importantly I think he's done and admirable job especially considering all the person controversy. He shouldn't be on that list.

                    AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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                      Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                      The first thing I would do with that list is to remove Jimmy Haslam & replace him with Larry Dolan...what a waste HE is!

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                        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                        C'mon Jim Irsay got busted with all the oxycontin, shit hammered driving his car. That's gotta at least be as bad as fucking up some rebates at the truck stop...

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                          Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                          Someone mentioned Art Modell. Hell, if we're mentioning PAST owners, Ted Stepien is a "slam dunk" for the list.

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                            If Brian Hoyer owned a sports team he would be #1.

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                            L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                            @shadow said:

                            If Brian Hoyer owned a sports team he would be #1.

                            LOL

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                              If Brian Hoyer owned a sports team he would be #1.

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                              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                              @shadow said:

                              If Brian Hoyer owned a sports team he would be #1.

                              Is there a new Stockton in town?

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                                If you read the article it explains rationale

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                @kvoethe said:

                                If you read the article it explains rationale

                                What a concept!

                                Not political beliefs per se, but "questionable" bizness practices. Then the view of those practices, like the WSH team name, tend to fall along partisan lines...

                                Haslam may have overseen a rebate ripoff, but he appears to be a strong organization manager. Strength exhibited by his reorg of the Browns with clearly delineated responsibilities and selection of what appear to be very capable people to run his organization followed by limited interference. Witness word that while he wanted to be informed of the Hoyer/ Manziel decision, he did not participate in it.

                                Remember that our Jimmy's "false start" with Banner, Heckert and Chud was forced upon him by the league.

                                Snyder on the other hand has been "hands on" from the start of his disastrous ownership.

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                                  I think Jimmy has been a great owner.

                                  Our team has improved a great deal.

                                  The Improvements to the stadium have been tremendous

                                  Improvements will contiunue this off season. I can't wait to see the improvements.

                                  The south side of the stadium activities pre-game are fantastic.....I am going next week to see the ice sculpting...

                                  What this guy is talking about, I don't have a clue.......Go Jimmy!

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                                  @ballpeen said:

                                  I think Jimmy has been a great owner.

                                  Our team has improved a great deal.

                                  The Improvements to the stadium have been tremendous

                                  Improvements will contiunue this off season. I can't wait to see the improvements.

                                  The south side of the stadium activities pre-game are fantastic.....I am going next week to see the ice sculpting...

                                  What this guy is talking about, I don't have a clue.......Go Jimmy!

                                  Well, as noted, it has more to do with outside business practices than his management of the team.

                                  I guess if you are being investigated by the FBI and IRS and potentially subject to indictment you get on this list. Plus, clearly RS hates fracking and anyone involved in fracking....or supplying frackers is on their shit list.

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                                  • VagitronV Vagitron

                                    Haslam hasnt been the owner long enough to be on the list. Beyond that and more importantly I think he's done and admirable job especially considering all the person controversy. He shouldn't be on that list.

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                    @vagitron said:

                                    Haslam hasnt been the owner long enough to be on the list. Beyond that and more importantly I think he's done and admirable job especially considering all the person controversy. He shouldn't be on that list.

                                    It is because of that personal/outside business controversy that he is on the list apparently.

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                                      @ballpeen said:

                                      I think Jimmy has been a great owner.

                                      Our team has improved a great deal.

                                      The Improvements to the stadium have been tremendous

                                      Improvements will contiunue this off season. I can't wait to see the improvements.

                                      The south side of the stadium activities pre-game are fantastic.....I am going next week to see the ice sculpting...

                                      What this guy is talking about, I don't have a clue.......Go Jimmy!

                                      Well, as noted, it has more to do with outside business practices than his management of the team.

                                      I guess if you are being investigated by the FBI and IRS and potentially subject to indictment you get on this list. Plus, clearly RS hates fracking and anyone involved in fracking....or supplying frackers is on their shit list.

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                                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Well, as noted, it has more to do with outside business practices than his management of the team.

                                      I guess if you are being investigated by the FBI and IRS and potentially subject to indictment you get on this list. Plus, clearly RS hates fracking and anyone involved in fracking....or supplying frackers is on their shit list.

                                      I can agree to a degree, but to me that has nothing to do with being a owner, at least in a sports sense.

                                      Now, that said, I am quite sure you know that it doesn't matter what some people think, in a legal sense, that doesn't matter. All that matters is what you can prove.

                                      Jimmy says he didn't know. I take him at his word until others can prove otherwise. For me at least, what other position is there to take?

                                      I am damn glad the guy owns my team. We have seen this whole Factory of Sadness crap go away.

                                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        Well, as noted, it has more to do with outside business practices than his management of the team.

                                        I guess if you are being investigated by the FBI and IRS and potentially subject to indictment you get on this list. Plus, clearly RS hates fracking and anyone involved in fracking....or supplying frackers is on their shit list.

                                        I can agree to a degree, but to me that has nothing to do with being a owner, at least in a sports sense.

                                        Now, that said, I am quite sure you know that it doesn't matter what some people think, in a legal sense, that doesn't matter. All that matters is what you can prove.

                                        Jimmy says he didn't know. I take him at his word until others can prove otherwise. For me at least, what other position is there to take?

                                        I am damn glad the guy owns my team. We have seen this whole Factory of Sadness crap go away.

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                                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                        @ballpeen said:

                                        I can agree to a degree, but to me that has nothing to do with being a owner, at least in a sports sense.

                                        I agree, of course.

                                        What I would like to see is who are the worst owners from a pure sports sense. Who have mismanaged their franchise the worst....or done things to screw the fans. (like moving their team)

                                        A few of those guys could likely still be on that list: Dolan owner of the Knicks. The Bennetts in OKC. Maybe Jerry. Maybe even Snyder....he likely would be on that list

                                        Now, that said, I am quite sure you know that it doesn't matter what some people think, in a legal sense, that doesn't matter. All that matters is what you can prove.

                                        Jimmy says he didn't know. I take him at his word until others can prove otherwise. For me at least, what other position is there to take?

                                        I am damn glad the guy owns my team. We have seen this whole Factory of Sadness crap go away.

                                        If the Feds are cool with Jimmy, then so am I.

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                                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                          Bottom line is this, as far as I am concerned: There are 122 franchises in the 4 major sports. (123 if you still consider the Sonics a continuing franchise...just inactive).

                                          I suggest that you could count on one hand those that have not had their snout out wanting to sup from the public trough for money to pay for their place of business. Can we name any that have not done that?

                                          I believe Jerry World may have been built entirely privately....or at least with more private money than most other stadia/arenas.

                                          Of course, the Packers are owned by the city....so that is a special case. (is that the case with any other team? I don't think so.

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