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Top 50 most productive players not in HOF

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  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #8

    Pete Rose 😁

  • mohicanM mohican wrote on
    #9

    Former players - especially ones that performed well over years and years and were on championship teams? How about former Brown's LT Dick Shafrath?

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  • ColumbusKingC ColumbusKing

    The HOF is such a joke. I will say all of these guys will get in lol

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #10

    @columbusking said:

    The HOF is such a joke. I will say all of these guys will get in lol

    No, some of these guys have been waiting for 30 years, like Jim Hart and Mick Tinglehoff...and are still not in.

  • mohicanM mohican

    Former players - especially ones that performed well over years and years and were on championship teams? How about former Brown's LT Dick Shafrath?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #11

    @mohican said:

    Former players - especially ones that performed well over years and years and were on championship teams? How about former Brown's LT Dick Shafrath?

    He could be in. He actually had a more productive career than running mate Gene Hickerson who was put in.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #12

    Here is the list of those players who ARE eligible to be selected in January for the HOF:

    (underlined are first time eligible. Red are my choices for who gets in

    Quarterbacks: (4) – Randall Cunningham, Rich Gannon, Phil Simms, Kurt Warner

    Wide Receivers: (9) – *Tim Brown (also KR), Isaac Bruce, Gary Clark, Henry Ellard (also PR), *Marvin Harrison, Torry Holt, Sterling Sharpe, Jimmy Smith, Rod Smith

    Tight End: (1) – Mark Bavaro

    Running Backs: (14) – Shaun Alexander, Ottis Anderson, Tiki Barber, *Jerome Bettis, Roger Craig, Stephen Davis, Terrell Davis, Eddie George, Priest Holmes, Edgerrin James, Daryl Johnston, Jamal Lewis, Herschel Walker (also KR), Ricky Watters

    DYK?

    Isaac Bruce and Torry Holt have the second-most combined receiving yards (3,106 yards, 2000) in a season out of any wide receiver duo?

    Offensive Linemen: (23) – Willie Anderson (T), Tony Boselli (T), Jeff Bostic Β©, Lomas Brown (T), Jim Covert (T), Bill Fralic (G/T), Jay Hilgenberg Β©, Chris Hinton (G/T), Kent Hull Β©, Joe Jacoby (T), Jon Jansen (T), Mike Kenn (T), Jim Lachey (T), Kevin Mawae (C/G), Mark May (G/T/C),Tom Nalen Β©, Nate Newton (G), Orlando Pace (T), Chris Samuels (T), Mark Schlereth (G), *Will Shields (G), Tra Thomas (T), Steve Wisniewski (G)

    Defensive Linemen: (12) – Al β€œBubba” Baker (DE), Jerome Brown (DT), Carl Hairston (DE/DT), *Charles Haley (also LB), Jevon Kearse (DE), Dexter Manley (DE), Charles Mann (DE), Steve McMichael (DT/NT), Fred Smerlas (NT), Greg Townsend (DE), Ted Washington (DT/NT), Bryant Young (DE)

    Linebackers: (13) – Cornelius Bennett, Tedy Bruschi, *Kevin Greene (also DE), Ken Harvey, Clay Matthews, Willie McGinest (also DE), Karl Mecklenburg, Matt Millen, Sam Mills, Junior Seau, Chris Spielman, Darryl Talley, Zach Thomas

    Defensive Backs: (16) – Eric Allen (CB), Steve Atwater (S), Joey Browner (S), LeRoy Butler (S), Thomas Everett (S), Rodney Harrison (S), Ty Law (CB), Albert Lewis (CB), *John Lynch (S), Terry McDaniel (CB), Tim McDonald (S), Frank Minnifield (CB), Shawn Springs (CB), Troy Vincent (CB/S), Everson Walls (CB), Darren Woodson (S)

    DYK?

    Jamal Lewis is the youngest player to score a touchdown in a Super Bowl (21)?

    Kickers/Punters: (5) – *Morten Andersen (K), Gary Anderson (K), Jason Elam (K), Sean Landeta (P), Nick Lowery (K)

    Special Teams/Position Players: (2) – Brian Mitchell (RB/PR/KR), Steve Tasker (also WR)

    Coaches: (14) –Don Coryell, Bill Cowher, *Tony Dungy, Tom Flores, Mike Holmgren, Jimmy Johnson, Chuck Knox, Buddy Parker, Richie Petitbon, Dan Reeves, Lou Saban, Marty Schottenheimer, Clark Shaughnessy, Dick Vermeil

    - See more at: http://www.profootballhof.com/enshrinement/2014/9/16/modern-era-nominees-for-class-of-2015/#sthash.Pn6rHeyp.dpuf

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #13

    Also, see this from the HOF website:

    he Class of 2015 will be selected from the list of the 15 Modern-Era finalists plus the one Senior finalist (former Minnesota Vikings center Mick Tingelhoff) selected last month by the Hall of Fame’s Senior Selection Committe - See more at: http://www.profootballhof.com/enshrinement/2014/9/16/modern-era-nominees-for-class-of-2015/#sthash.Pn6rHeyp.dpuf

    Mick Tinglehoff will be elected.....as he should be

  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on
    #14

    Wow Ken Anderson is 10th on that list a Qb that played the bulk of his career in the 70's

    "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978
  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

    Wow Ken Anderson is 10th on that list a Qb that played the bulk of his career in the 70's

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #15

    @richiswhere said:

    Wow Ken Anderson is 10th on that list a Qb that played the bulk of his career in the 70's

    Yes, you have to understand with the way football is played these days with pinball offenses the more recent players seem to score better on these sorts of things. Plus, having a long career is helpful.

  • VagitronV Vagitron wrote on
    #16

    If this is a list you created and you don't have Roethlisberger on it but you can't be helped.

    Edit: and you included rivers? Lol

    AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
  • VagitronV Vagitron

    If this is a list you created and you don't have Roethlisberger on it but you can't be helped.

    Edit: and you included rivers? Lol

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #17

    @vagitron said:

    If this is a list you created and you don't have Roethlisberger on it but you can't be helped.

    Edit: and you included rivers? Lol

    If he is on the list, then I inadvertently overlooked him. It was not my intent. I will go back and check. Thanks for bringing it up.

    OK, I have checked.....and BR is not on the list....yet.

    Remember, I am using the PFR "Career Average" stat for this list. It is supposed to record a player's total productivity....and supposedly it can compare players at all positions from QBs to nose tackles.

    The list I gave of the Top 50 went from Peyton Manning with a 172 score to Gannon and Jim Hart with scores of 99.

    Ben Roethlisberger to date has a 94 score so he is not yet in the Top 50 all time players not in the HOF. (I am not sure that any of this year's stats are computed in these scores, probably not, so those may be added at the end of the season)

    But yes, Rivers is in there with a score of 107.....and I am not the one who included him, PFR was. ( The score is a very complex mathematical algorithm.....I don't understand how it works....you are free to figure it out).

    Here is the link, see for yourself:

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/career_av_career.htm

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