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  • Yes,he would have fucking hit him!!! How hard must It have been to watch this offensive debacle the last few weeks? O nce we get a qb in there , and see what we could have been,we are all going to be sick! The defense is balling,with offense,we could be a force!

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    Idk if I would describe it as trashing.

    Anyway, johnny boy will have a chance to show out next week.

    @bbedward said:

    Idk if I would describe it as trashing.

    Agree... but it sure as hell ain't fiery or passionate...

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  • Brash confidence. Like Clark Gable, I think.

    Those misses were brutal. If I was Johnny, Id say the same thing. Hell, Im an old man and I woulda hit em....they were wide open for christs sake....

    Too bad we dont have a receiver named Broad Sideof Barn

  • Damn. Walter must have cams set up on every corner for murders, rapes, race riots and qb controversies.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • We all know he should, but I have this bad feeling he will give Hoyer the nod on Wednesday lol...

  • I don't think we need another thread, but yes I think johnny will start, no way the staff doesn't wanna see him.

  • As I have said most of the year, I have full faith in pettine. He will start JF, book it. Live and learn, he had to see what he had in hoyer, for sure. Now we know what we have, for sure. He WILL start JF.

    If he doesn't, I may join the WalterWhite train....and if I did that I would have to kill myself. So let's hope he starts johnny.

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  • PLEASE Let it be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    There is NO ONE on this forum that can still back Hoyer

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • I think Hoyer has the goods on Pettine and Shanahan.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!

  • I won't be surprised if he does. But the writings on the wall. 2015 - manziel

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • I like Pet, but if he doesn't make the change, he will lose me.

  • I hope not.

    Hoyer has gotten WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY...............WORSE

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • Browns149B Browns149

    PLEASE Let it be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    There is NO ONE on this forum that can still back Hoyer

    @browns149 said:

    There is NO ONE on this forum that can still back Hoyer

    As much as I love a challenge...

    I can't see Hoyer starting.

    The only mitigating factor I can possibly imagine is that Hoyer started our last two wins over Cinci. However, as much as Pettine bemoaned wasting last week's Defensive effort against the Bills, I cannot imagine today's much more egregious waste, can be overlooked.

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  • I think a lot of people are blaming Hoyer for issues that aren't his fault

    I think it must suck for Hoyer having fans call for the unproven rookie as soon as he throws an interception

    I think NFL defenses will figure out Johnny after a game or two of film on him

    That being said, I say we start Johnny. We're out of the playoffs and we might as well see what he can do.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • That stadium will be a ghost town if Hoyer is named the starter...

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    I think a lot of people are blaming Hoyer for issues that aren't his fault

    I think it must suck for Hoyer having fans call for the unproven rookie as soon as he throws an interception

    I think NFL defenses will figure out Johnny after a game or two of film on him

    That being said, I say we start Johnny. We're out of the playoffs and we might as well see what he can do.

    @mld-woody said:

    I think a lot of people are blaming Hoyer for issues that aren't his fault

    Yea throwing interceptions when you have plenty of time and overthrowing receivers is NEVER Brian's fault.

    It's the wind and wrong route running. It was all not having Gordon and Cameron. It was the o-lines fault.

    Hoyer is a great QB and I'm sure he'll get a large contract this offseason. I'm think 6 years 125 million to replace Manning in Denver.

  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    he has taken four snaps this year or maybe less. just accept that hoyer is better for a team in the running for a playoff spot. just hope that the browns trade manziel to the cowboys next year so you can be one of jerrys kids.

    @lbc-mike said:

    he has taken four snaps this year or maybe less. just accept that hoyer is better for a team in the running for a playoff spot. just hope that the browns trade manziel to the cowboys next year so you can be one of jerrys kids.

    We already gave Jerry a cast-off and he's pissed about it. At least Bryant can rail at him (Weeden) instead of everybody else. Nah, I say trade him to Pittsburgh so he can beat the shit out of us twice a year. After Buffalo and then today do you still feel the same? The defense today scored more today than a Hoyer led offense in the past two games. Remember, Johnny scored the TD last week.

    I'm not an Aggie nor am I an Aggie fan but graduating from an SEC school and watching Manziel for the past 2 years, he is the real deal. I would think the bowl game against Duke last year would have shown everybody that. He grabbed Evans by the facemask and went eye to eye after his second personal foul is as many drives.

    I get it, Hoyer is a St. Ignatius kid and a former big 10 QB. Too fucking bad! He's lost his touch and his will to win. A pussy can't be a leader - PERIOD. Manziel is a winner.

  • So in listening to the post game show yesterday I heard Tony Grossi reiterate a few rumors you've heard before.

    First that the front office is torn between Brian Hoyer and Johnny Manziel with coach on the Veterans side.

    We have heard some snarky comments, such as the one about the office not being quarterback centric.

    Ru more has it that the coach was upset Johnny went to the Cavaliers game last Tuesday.

    Also that he was annoyed that Johnny showed up Sunday at the stadium at 11 o'clock instead of 6 a.m. Or whenever Brian Hoyer did.

    I can't imagine why they would give a shit about a Tuesday night basketball game. Also if no team rules were broken what in the world does it help to show up at the stadium early? If Brian Hoyer showed up early it didn't do him any good.

    I think Mike Pettine has done a very nice job with the team here but if his vindictive nature is going to cause your team to lose games that's a very serious flaw that he needs to overcome.

    And if he dislikes JFF badly enough to sacrifice a game and quite probably a chance at the playoffs to teach him a lesson it doesn't bode well for the future nor set a good example for the rest of the team.

    Possibly he can spin it as trying to give the starter a chance. Or to lay the blame on a couple penalties that gave the Colts the game. I can't imagine taking it any further though.

    (I also realize that sports media professionals are paid to stir up shit so....)

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  • Agreed. He is not a High School coach anymore where the kids will obey you like robots. These are pros, and are going to do what they like within limits (except Gordon).

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • I sincerely hope Pettine wasn't scolding Manziel to the detriment of a potential win.

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